When to Monk

[EnzerFender]

I am going to follow this build that was posted in the FvS class forum.

Any opinions when to pick up the 2 levels of monk?

Level 20 Lawful Good Elf Male
( 2 Monk / 18 Favored Soul)
Hit Points: 450+
20 Heroic Durability
144 L18 FvS
16 L2 Monk
100 Con Bonus
22 TOughness Feat
50 Toughness Enhancements
30 Greater False Life
10 Draconic Vitality
20 Minos Legens Helm
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412 Hit Points
45 Second Shroud Item
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457

Spell Points: 2,375
1485 18 FvS
110 Eot
115 Chr Bonus
380 ARchmagi Item(+90% on Mana Items for l18 FvS)
285 Shroud Tier 2/3 ITem(+90% on Mana Items for l18 FvS)
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2375 Spell Points

BAB: 14/14/19/2424
14 BAB
6 STR Bonus
5 Weapons
2 ELf Enh
1 FvS Feat
-2 TWF
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+26 Beholder Unbufed TWF
6 BAB Bump from DP
3 Divine Favor
4 Greater Heroism
1 Haste
1 Rage
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+41 Self Buffed
-5 Power Attack
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+36 First Swing
6 Full Warchanter SOng
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+42 Raid Buffed

Imaginary A/C Potential (I'm not gonna bother, To Slot intensive)
10 BASE
8 Dex Bonus
12+ Wisdom Bonus
8 Armored Bracers
5 Protection Item
5 Ranger Bark
4 Sheild CLicky
4 Bardsong
4 Shroud Weapon
3 Dodge (Ring or DT effect)
1 Armor Ritual
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64+ Raid Buffed


Fortitude/Reflex/Will
11/11/11 FvS 14
3/3/3 Monk 2
5/8/12 Attributes
5/5/5 Resistance
1/1/1 Resist Ritual
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25/28/30 Base Saves
4/4/4 Greater Heroism Spell
2/2/2 Luck (Head of Good Fortune or Recitation SPell)
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31/34/36
4/4/4 Holy Aura(It stacks)
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35/38/40


Abilities
(32 Point)
{22}Strength 14 +2Tome +6 Item
{26}Dexterity 16 +2 Tome +2 Elf +6 Item
{20}Constitution 12+2 Tome +6 Item
{16}Intelligence 9+1 Tome +6 Item as needed
{34/36-40}Wisdom 16 +5 Levels +2FvS +2 Tome +6 Item +3 Shroud +2 Stance(When Necessary)+2 Potion(When Necessary) +2 (+4Tome Potential)
{20}Charisma 11+2 Tome +1FvS +6Item

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 19
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 7 13

Concentration 5 26

Jump 5 19

Tumble 4 6

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Undying Court

Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell

Level 4 (Favored Soul)

Level 5 (Favored Soul)

Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting - Swap to Spell Penn later in game

Level 7 (Favored Soul)

Level 8 (Favored Soul)

Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 10 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack

Level 11 (Favored Soul)

Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell

Level 13 (Favored Soul)

Level 14 (Favored Soul)

Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell

Level 16 (Favored Soul)

Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Sonic

Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

Level 19 (Favored Soul)

Level 20 (Favored Soul)



Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Remove Fear
Spell (1): Sheild of Faith

Spell (2): Resist Energy
Spell (2): Soundburst
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration

Spell (3): Prayer
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Spell (3): Protection From Energy
Spell (3): Remove Curse

Spell (4): Divine Power
Spell (4): Recitation
Spell (4): Deathward
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement

Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Spell (5): Raise Dead
Spell (5): True Seeing
Spell (5): Greater Command

Spell (6): Blade Barrier
Spell (6): Heal
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds

Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (7): Destruction
Spell (7): Resurection

Spell (8): Death Pact
Spell (8): Holy AUra

Spell (9): Implosion

Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost III
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack II
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Scimitar Specialization I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Scimitar Specialization II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I
Enhancement: Disciple of Puddles
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery IV

Schroud Items
Scimmy #1 Holy, +3 Wis, Mineral II
Scimmy #2 Holy, Acid Burst, Acid Blast Mineral II

Shroud Goggles: Blindness/Disease Immune +6 Wis, COncordant Opposition

Helm: Minos
Necklace: Mod 9 Necklace - Superior Potency VI
Cloak: +4 (+5) Resistance/Reaver Napkin
Belt: +6 Con/GFL - Swap with Superior Ardor 6 Belt for Healing CLicky
Bracers: Glacier
Gloves: STR Gloves, Second Shroud Item
RIng 1: CHR +6 (New ring? Exceptonal Power?)
Ring 2(swap): UA, Resist+4, Striding
Boots: Dex
Trinket: Bloodstone

[Symar-FangofLloth]

Well, the build you copy/pasted says to at levels 1 and 10...

[Dawnsfire]

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack

It looks like the build recommends 1st and 10th lvl. Seem like a good time to do it in my opinion...

[EnzerFender]

It looks like the build recommends 1st and 10th lvl. Seem like a good time to do it in my opinion...

Ahhh. I didnt see that. I am new to reviewing others builds to thanks

[jsaving]

Taking monk at 1st level is very important for the extra skill points you'll receive. You could consider taking the second monk level at 8th level rather than 10th, if you're willing to pick up the divine power spell a bit later than this build contemplates.

[unbongwah]

I prefer to take monk 2 sooner rather than later to get Evasion and that extra feat ASAP. But that pushes out all your spells an extra level, so it's a matter of personal priorities.

[Gratch]

For a TR, I would probably pickup the 2nd monk level earlier to get evasion for all the extra extra quests and extra elites you end up running...

For my nonTR FVS, I took monk at 1 and 14. Level 1 for the higher skills x4 and level 14 to get blade barrier at L13 M1/FVS12. BB helps you pickup that next monk level pretty quickly.

[Impatiens]

I prefer to take monk 2 sooner rather than later to get Evasion and that extra feat ASAP. But that pushes out all your spells an extra level, so it's a matter of personal priorities.

I agree with this. If you can handle waiting a bit for your divine spells it's nice to take the second monk level early on to get evasion asap.

[unbongwah]

Yeah, I prefer the immediate gratification of taking monk 2 right away vs getting Blade Barrier one level sooner, but not everyone is as impatient as me. :-)

[aristarchus1000]

I waited even longer, until level 16 on mine. Wanted to wait until I got BB, Heal, and 2 Mass Cure spells. It's really up to you. You get Heal really late if you get both levels of monk first (since FvS get level 6 1 level later anyway compared to a cleric, and then only one spell, they need to wait for the next level to get their 2nd level 6 spell). If you have a static group with a dedicated healer that's fine, but if you PUG a lot or are often the main healer in your group, you may consider holding off on getting the 2nd monk level.