Max number of Turn Undead uses?

[Skirmish]

I'm sure this has been asked/worked out elsewhere in the forums. But, I hadn't found it just yet. The Definitive Turn Undead posts were awesome in helping to understand the damage ability of TU before it becomes mostly useless at high levels. But, I was curious just what the absolute max number of turn undead uses a Cleric could have.

Currently running a human with a 22 Charisma, the extra turning feat(+4) and the extra turning 4 enhancement (+4). Thus, I have 17 Turn Undead (along with Divine Vitality, Divine Cleansing, Divine Healing for low mana/potion emergencies.

I originally built her as a heal-bot/scourge of the undead as I had a party to run with. While I learned quickly that dumping all my points into improving her chances at turning weren't helping much. I have kept her as a walking Mana battery and it has paid off on more than one occasion.

I did not see any mention on the turn undead feat that said what determined it's base number of uses. I know that my base number of uses is 9 and I have an additional 8 via my feats/enhancements. But, I was curious just how many turn undead uses a cleric could achieve.

Thanks.

[Dylos_Moon]

Let's see, First we need to know the max charisma, so this would be a drow, 20 base plus 5 level ups, +7 charisma item, +2 cleric Cha enhancement, +1 exceptional charisma, +2 exceptional charisma, +1 litany, +2 completionist, +4 tome that's 44 unbuffed charisma. Now let's add potions, store potion +2, House Deneith potion +2, Yugoloth Potion +2, for 50 Charisma.

Ok, 50 charisma is a +20 mod, so that means our base # of turns is 24. Add 3 for 3 cleric past lives, an additional 4 for the extra turning feat, and 4 more for enhancements, and then an additional 3 for the Exorcist of the Silver Flame set. This would result in 38 turn undeads per rest. This is not however the maximum, you can aquire a few more from items with lesser turning (I don't recall how many off the top of my head, nor am I positive that they stack with the EotSF set).

And 38 turn undeads would probably be a waste, but it is 266d4+380 (646-1444, avg 1045) sp that you can give to someone else each rest. So 38 turn undeads is only worth what, 3-4 major mnemonics?

[Skirmish]

I don't think you can increase the number of uses via Pots. When I unequipped my +5 Cha item and put it back on to check the number of TU's I had, the number did not automatically go up.

But, other than that, the information supplied is pretty cool.

Edit: Personally, as I have yet to hit any toon to 20, much less res them, I think the max I'd be able to tag with my standard builds is about 31/32. As you say, probably not all that useful by end-game. But, it's kind of fun to know.

Thanks.

[Dylos_Moon]

I don't think you can increase the number of uses via Pots. When I unequipped my +5 Cha item and put it back on to check the number of TU's I had, the number did not automatically go up.

But, other than that, the information supplied is pretty cool.

Thanks.

You can if you are sitting in a tavern long enough for them to refresh themselves. Or for the store pot, if you shrine while its still in effect.

[phalaeo]

I don't think you can increase the number of uses via Pots. When I unequipped my +5 Cha item and put it back on to check the number of TU's I had, the number did not automatically go up.
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It won't. You need to go to a tavern or shrine and it will "reset" to the proper #.

Edit- Oops. Dylos got there first.

[chefgroovy]

It won't. You need to go to a tavern or shrine and it will "reset" to the proper #.

So put on charisma gear before hit shrine and "lock in" the higher number of turn undeads then put regular stuff on?

[Goldeneye]

Nice math Dylos_Moon! +Rep once I have more to give out.