Noobie Question: Rogue Build.

[Emili]

.... I am very new to this game since just starting yesturday ...

You all seem to miss the boat... he's starting from scratch, you're asking him to buy drow or 32 pointers and ... then build some of the tigher stat dependent class/build combos where two points may lock you out of areas for some time until toming

... Maybe not quite up your alley... bloody really the caster classes or cleric class make the easiest straight forword builds in 28 pointers which stand the test of time longer than any melee or specialty classes. i.e. A human sorc with cha 18 con 14-16 and the remaining divi'd is hard to mess up... plus skill point wise produces enough funding to launch alts, and runs enough favor easily to open drow and 32 points without up front costs. Come end-game still very effective and lasting.

[tolana]

one thing i would say on that dual wielding paly i would take off 6 of these dex points and put them toward con. that high of a dex isn't going to help when you put on heavy armor max dex bonus on non mithryl armor is only 3 and you can get to +3 bonus with a starting 10 dex and a +6 item anything over that is a waste unless you have mithryl, you will need the extra hit points

[gwlech]

You all seem to miss the boat... he's starting from scratch, you're asking him to buy drow or 32 pointers and ... then build some of the tigher stat dependent class/build combos where two points may lock you out of areas for some time until toming

... Maybe not quite up your alley... bloody really the caster classes or cleric class make the easiest straight forword builds in 28 pointers which stand the test of time longer than any melee or specialty classes. i.e. A human sorc with cha 18 con 14-16 and the remaining divi'd is hard to mess up... plus skill point wise produces enough funding to launch alts, and runs enough favor easily to open drow and 32 points without up front costs. Come end-game still very effective and lasting.

Thats what I was initially suggesting was something along the lines of a cleric or the wiz/rogue build I posted. He said that he had drow and wanted a good drow paladin build, so I gave him the easiest and most effective one I could.

I don't think he is going to have a problem though, as he has already started his character and has friends on his server to help him along the way.

[Strakeln]

My recommendation: buy/earn the monk class and 32 point builds, then make a dex-based halfling 13 rog/6 ranger/1 monk. It will seem weak until around level the 12-15 range. But in the long run, you will not regret making this character. It is one of the most powerful builds out there.

[Emili]

Thats what I was initially suggesting was something along the lines of a cleric. He said that he had drow and wanted a good drow paladin build, so I gave him the easiest and most effective one I could.

If that is his plan... and he pursues a twf melee in any form ... OP pm me here or send tell to a Fallen Hero in game to get in touch, a +2 dex tome is yours for being forword and seeking ideas and advice 'fore taking the leap.

[jkm]

You all seem to miss the boat... he's starting from scratch, you're asking him to buy drow or 32 pointers and ... then build some of the tigher stat dependent class/build combos where two points may lock you out of areas for some time until toming

... Maybe not quite up your alley... bloody really the caster classes or cleric class make the easiest straight forword builds in 28 pointers which stand the test of time longer than any melee or specialty classes. i.e. A human sorc with cha 18 con 14-16 and the remaining divi'd is hard to mess up... plus skill point wise produces enough funding to launch alts, and runs enough favor easily to open drow and 32 points without up front costs. Come end-game still very effective and lasting.

actually what i told him was IF he had access to drow, a drow dual wielding pally is the cheapest easiest end game character for a new player to play. when you compare it to fighter or barbarian or ranger or rogue, there isn't any comparison.

pallys benefit from the following over some of those classes:

access to wands (much cheaper than pots)
access to cure spells
access to 5 oh **** buttons (4 lay on hands, 1 unyielding sov)
much better haggle since its a cha based toon
melee so an assortment of martial weapons as end rewards
drow get SR11 which is helpful against hold person
the BEST guide on how to play the class right here on the forums
access to weapons that bypass PF DR for pennies

smite - even without a ton of tomes on this build, he's going to smite for 400+ at level 18. is anyone really going to notice when he hits a double smite for 794 instead of 875? not to mention, that its a safe regenerating way of learning things like stunning blow, trip, etc.

as for the build that came in after he asked. personally i would have swapped some stats around to make it more new player friendly, but oh well.

as for cleric/caster, we'll have to disagree with that. i would never recommend anyone roll a cleric for their first build, because of the frustration that is pug-dom.

[jkm]

My recommendation: buy/earn the monk class and 32 point builds, then make a dex-based halfling 13 rog/6 ranger/1 monk. It will seem weak until around level the 12-15 range. But in the long run, you will not regret making this character. It is one of the most powerful builds out there.

i just can't help but think you are applying vet perceptions to your build. most rogue builds generate their unstoppableness from radiance. as a new player, he'd easily be 20 before he got radiance.

[Strakeln]

i just can't help but think you are applying vet perceptions to your build. most rogue builds generate their unstoppableness from radiance. as a new player, he'd easily be 20 before he got radiance.

I absolutely am applying vet perceptions. The OP asked for a rogue he won't later regret... there's enough slip in a 13/6/1 to handle any minor mistakes he might make, and the longer he has this build, the happier he will become.

(OP: jkm's point is valid, the build I suggest is generally best played by those rich enough to always keep it supplied with whatever it needs... i.e. vets. But it is one build I don't think you'd ever regret.)

[KingDrakmar]

Ya I added you to my friends list so I could thank you for the rapier.

my in game name is Drakemar btw =D

[Lo_Pan]

Oh never mind...