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[Fenrisulven6]

I went backpacking with a few friends last year, two of them were from New York, they put Canadian flags on their luggage/backpacks while we toured.

Oh those weren't Americans, those were Liberals.

[Almerel]

Lol, and why would that be? If either were elected leader of my country, I'd move elsewhere. At least McCain wasn't elected. I'm still amazed the republicans managed to find a candidate even more clueless than Bush.

Evan more of a reason you would like Obama more than Bush lol. Bush cared more about his country than his image. Whereas Obama is the opposite so more people will like him. Heck because of this health care debacle more people from other countries like him better than we do here.

I doubt the Republicans thought they could win anyways. It was more likely they put on a show using the more respected Republican who wouldn't fall from grace even with a defeat but become more respected.

[Yagi]

uh... no need to invade, we already conquered Canada. That cute little independence ceremony you guys had? There was also a Shadow Ceremony where the UK transferred ownership to the US.

We promised your Mom that we would let you play with french women, weed and beer. Just as long as we covered your national defense, protected your trade routes, provided your health care and prescription drugs...

...and let you play around with Socialism, while we handle the Big Ticket Items. We've got Her permission to smack you around if you ever go overboard.

Americans throwing around the word socialism would be funnier if I didnt have family members competing with heavily socialized American industries while paying a mil for new combines.
And uh, who exactly are you protecting us against? My boots got some of the thickest mud on them in YOUR defense, not the other way around, its never ever been the other way around. We even had thousands of ours sign up with yours during that crazy little action in the late 60's and in return you sent us your cowards and deviants =D

[Almerel]

Oh those weren't Americans, those were Liberals.

Sounds about right to me. I just told a couple of my Liberal friends on FB that if they wanted Europe to move there and stop trying to change my Capitalist country into a Socialist country. Then I threw out that Socialism is just Communism-lite.

One of them laughed the other was offended and told me FB wasn't a good forum for politics lol.

[Almerel]

We even had thousands of ours sign up with yours during that crazy little action in the late 60's and in return you sent us your cowards and deviants =D

I thank Canada when they support us in our wars (it is stupid not to imo). However, you could have sent back those cowards but you Canucks are just to nice lol

Oh and don't think for a second that having us as your neighbors hasn't help you guys. You know as well as I do that if someone attacked you the U.S. would lay the smack down as a big brother should.

[Ghoste]

Sounds about right to me. I just told a couple of my Liberal friends on FB that if they wanted Europe to move there and stop trying to change my Capitalist country into a Socialist country. Then I threw out that Socialism is just Communism-lite.

One of them laughed the other was offended and told me FB wasn't a good forum for politics lol.

Hahaaha. He thinks the US is capitalist. Oh, that one never gets old!

[Fenrisulven6]

And uh, who exactly are you protecting us against?

Reality.

Face it, Canada would not exist without our explicit permission.

Now behave or we'll come take all your oil. And beer.

[Nott]

Hahaaha. He thinks the US is capitalist. Oh, that one never gets old!

QFT.

If the US were capitalist, there would not be any such thing as "too big to fail." Of course, there also would not be any such thing as AIG anymore either.

The US is not capitalist. The US is corporatism.

[Arkat]

The US is corporatism.

Bingo.

Someday, the chickens will come home to roost. I will be there when they do.

[Almerel]

QFT.

If the US were capitalist, there would not be any such thing as "too big to fail." Of course, there also would not be any such thing as AIG anymore either.

The US is not capitalist. The US is corporatism.

First I would like to say touche` Corporatism is a real word with a real definition. However, only a few people actually have heard of the term. I know I had never heard the term and I am pretty versed in politics.

I decided to see if you forum folk were more educated than me or if you were just trying to be smart for the sake of looking smart. I think it is the ladder since everyone that I have been able to communicate with never heard of the term. I ask everyone but I made sure to target my friends who have gotten their Masters degree or on their way to get it, i.e. in grad school.

Every person grad school or not has never heard of the term. If a grad student in teaching, psychology, or better yet if a lawyer has not heard of the term, I doubt there is a lot of importance in it.

Maybe I need to find some PhD level people and ask them if they have ever heard of this term.

When I was in college and in Political Science class I was taught that our country is a combination of Capitalism and Socialism. Which in a way could be seen as Corporatism but it seems that Corporatism is closer to Fascism then the other two.


Even if we disagree thank you for sending me on my path of learning something new.

[Ghoste]

The US is not capitalist. The US is corporatism.

I have also heard it described as shareholderism. There are some very fundamental differences between the motivations of a company owned by a single capitalist, and one owned by a bunch of shareholders placing bets on the future of the company. Capitalism depends heavily on the assumption that the former is the case.

And that is the economy in general. I roll my eyes every time I read about another clown trying to defend Americas health care system against socialism, and keeping it capitalist. The health care system as it is in the US is one of the best examples of how the US is not capitalist. Try explaining, even with the most basic understanding of a free market system, how the US health care system is capitalist. A system where you pay what the supplier tells you to, no negotiating, no shopping around, and if you dont, you die? Capitalist health care? Really?

[Ghoste]

First I would like to say touche` Corporatism is a real word with a real definition. However, only a few people actually have heard of the term. I know I had never heard the term and I am pretty versed in politics.

I decided to see if you forum folk were more educated than me or if you were just trying to be smart for the sake of looking smart. I think it is the ladder since everyone that I have been able to communicate with never heard of the term. I ask everyone but I made sure to target my friends who have gotten their Masters degree or on their way to get it, i.e. in grad school.

Every person grad school or not has never heard of the term. If a grad student in teaching, psychology, or better yet if a lawyer has not heard of the term, I doubt there is a lot of importance in it.

Maybe I need to find some PhD level people and ask them if they have ever heard of this term.

When I was in college and in Political Science class I was taught that our country is a combination of Capitalism and Socialism. Which in a way could be seen as Corporatism but it seems that Corporatism is closer to Fascism then the other two.


Even if we disagree thank you for sending me on my path of learning something new.

Try asking economists, not political scientists. There is a lot of overlap in the two fields, true, but there's still plenty of difference.

As far as the whole capitalist - socialist spectrum, that's a model that's getting a bit out dated. One of my economics professors used to say about Keynes "he's that damned socialist who saved capitalism."

[Almerel]

Try asking economists, not political scientists. There is a lot of overlap in the two fields, true, but there's still plenty of difference.

As far as the whole capitalist - socialist spectrum, that's a model that's getting a bit out dated. One of my economics professors used to say about Keynes "he's that damned socialist who saved capitalism."

It's actually funny you told me to ask an economist because I just got this message from my friend. "My brother has his Masters in business and finance. He works for the government and he has never heard of it."

I am still going to find out from an economist if I can find one lol.

[Yagi]

Reality.

"Reality" should be fairly straightforwrd to elaborate on. Feel free to do so.

[Reyjak]

Well Canada did produce RUSH, so thats one thing they have going for them.....

On a side note anyone remember the opening video of Fallout 1 where America annex's Canada? I always thought that it was mildly humorous.

[Yagi]

Well Canada did produce RUSH, so thats one thing they have going for them.....

On a side note anyone remember the opening video of Fallout 1 where America annex's Canada? I always thought that it was mildly humorous.

That carries on throughout the fallout games in the lore a bit.