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    Community Member Harncw's Avatar
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    Default 1 Level of Bard?

    Looking for feedback.
    Not looking for WF versus fleshy conversations...
    Not too concerned with Epic. But dont want to be useless either.
    My playstyle is patient, with a lot of solo encounter.

    I figure with the upcoming level respec, I can always zap the level of bard if it is really a mistake for me.

    I dont use the Character planner that much and hopefully dont have too many blantant mistakes in here.

    I realize being a 3rd incarnate makes this not really the build for everyone.

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.14
    DDO Character Planner Home Page
    
    Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
    (19 Sorcerer \ 1 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 184
    Spell Points: 1956 
    BAB: 9\9\14
    Fortitude: 9
    Reflex: 9
    Will: 13
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
    Strength             14                 16                   16
    Dexterity            10                 12                   12
    Constitution         14                 16                   16
    Intelligence         14                 16                   16
    Wisdom                8                 10                   10
    Charisma             18                 25                   25
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 20
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
    Balance               4                 11                   11
    Bluff                 4                  7                    7
    Concentration         6                 23                   23
    Diplomacy             8                 27                   27
    Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                4                  7                    7
    Heal                 -1                  0                    0
    Hide                  0                  1                    1
    Intimidate            4                  7                    7
    Jump                  6                  7                    7
    Listen                3                  4                    4
    Move Silently         0                  1                    1
    Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Perform               8                 11                   11
    Repair                2                  3                    3
    Search                2                  3                    3
    Spot                  1                  5                    5
    Swim                  2                  3                    3
    Tumble                4                  5                    5
    Use Magic Device      8                 30                   30
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Listen (+4)
    Skill: Perform (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+2)
    Skill: Tumble (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Maximize Spell
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Fascinate
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Courage
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longsword
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
    Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
    
    
    Level 2 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
    Spell (1): Hypnotism
    Spell (1): Niac's Cold Ray
    
    
    Level 3 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Prodigy
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    
    
    Level 4 (Sorcerer)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 5 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 6 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 7 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 8 (Sorcerer)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 9 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
    
    
    Level 10 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 11 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 12 (Sorcerer)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
    
    
    Level 13 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 16 (Sorcerer)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 18 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 19 (Sorcerer)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Sorcerer)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Skill: Something (+2-4)
    Last edited by Harncw; 01-09-2010 at 05:44 PM.
    /TELL Tackilack ~ Tackalack ~ Taq ~ Heartattack ~ Scrooge

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    Note that in Update 3, the Sorc capstone will work and stack. That's a lot to give up.... for what? UMD, and UMD-free wands (which would be at 100% even without Bard UMD)? Light armor so you can have AC that still isn't high enough to matter?

    IMO: Don't do it.

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    Community Member Harncw's Avatar
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    I had completely forgotten about capstones...
    I was thinking I just lose 1 spell and a handful of sp.

    I was going bard for martial weapon and shield profiency and light armor as I currently tend to use them even being non proficient.

    Also getting a few more skill points in skills that I use would be nice.

    Losing 10% and the crits is big though.

    Thanks for the feedback!
    /TELL Tackilack ~ Tackalack ~ Taq ~ Heartattack ~ Scrooge

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