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    Community Member Ginetti's Avatar
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    Hi Guys,

    I'm fairly excited, as I've just upgraded my ax

    First i made a greensteel axe

    Then, at shroud part 1, i upgraded it to have the holy property.

    I've just now upgraded it again to have the 'acid burst' property.

    I notice on the planer however, than I can also give it an enhancement to make it do more damage on a crit vs evil.

    Or is my next step the transmuting final stage?

    Am I going to be skipping a step if i do transmuting next?

    Cheers in advance,

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    You are at the stage where I have seen most people make their first crafting mistake.

    Your next step is to prepare your mineral II supreme shard.

    To do this you must make 2 supreme shards, 1 earth and 1 positive. The shards need to both match on their other two aspects. (for example; both must be material and dominion for acid blast mineral II, or both must be material and escalation for +2 exceptional constitution mineral II, etc).

    VERY IMPORTANT!

    Once you have made both shards, one each of positive and earth, you must combine the two together BEFORE upgrading your weapon. You do this by placing both earth and positive supreme shards into the crafting machine with a high energy cell. This will create your uber mineral II supreme shard. You then use this shard to upgrade your axe.

    Options for special effects on a supreme shard for a mineral II are:
    • Acid Blast
    • +2 Exceptional Con
    • 20% acid damage absorption
    • +2 exceptional Wis
    • Superior Corrosion VI
    • Heightened Awareness +4 AC

    Obviously, some of those options are better for a barbarian than others. Personally I am a fan of the "as much damage as possible" school for my barb, so I did Acid Blast on his Min IIs.


    As far as response to your "more damage on crit vs evil", I assume you are meaning the Good Blast ability. Unfortunately you do not get to choose which shard gets dominance. The earth shard's ability will always be dominant over the positive shard's, and you only get one effect, not both. In other words, you can't make a Good Blast Min II.
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    thank you, very helpful.

    Does the +2 exceptional con stack with my +6 belt of con?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginetti View Post
    thank you, very helpful.

    Does the +2 exceptional con stack with my +6 belt of con?
    It stacks with everything but Exceptional CON +2.

    But I don't imagine your barb needs more CON.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beherit_Baphomar View Post
    It stacks with everything but Exceptional CON +2.

    But I don't imagine your barb needs more CON.
    Actualy, since the acid blast property is useless against devils, which are in the majority of end game content, the +2 con is a very valid option even for a barb. +20 hp and longer rages are useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningDownTheHouse View Post
    Actualy, since the acid blast property is useless against devils, which are in the majority of end game content, the +2 con is a very valid option even for a barb. +20 hp and longer rages are useful.
    Not working againsts devils isn't a valid reason to ruin your most important weapon vs other things.

    If your gonna kill a hell of a lot of devils.. Well then you'll eventually get your 2nd ToD ring and put +2 con on it anyways, and then have a gimped greataxe.

    Stick with damage. Get the ex con a ring later.

    Also against normal devils, it does work a bit:
    2d10 +4d6 = up to 20 and 24 dmg. Regular devils have acid resist 10, so it can do up to 10 and 14 dmg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Not working againsts devils isn't a valid reason to ruin your most important weapon vs other things.
    Lol, I guess I wasn't really thinking of it as a main weapon, but more as a boss beatter.
    For regular trash devils (and any other trash mob, probably) lightning strike is so much better anyway (and I'd never suggets to put dex on that ).

    Yes, if you intend to have the mineral II as you're main weapon, definitly go acid blast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    If your gonna kill a hell of a lot of devils.. Well then you'll eventually get your 2nd ToD ring and put +2 con on it anyways, and then have a gimped greataxe.

    Stick with damage. Get the ex con a ring later.
    A good argument can be made for putting healing amplification 20% on your second tod ring.
    I belive that the best setup for tanking devil bosses is +2 con on your mineral II and +20% healing on the ring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost_Leader View Post
    You are at the stage where I have seen most people make their first crafting mistake.

    Your next step is to prepare your mineral II supreme shard.

    To do this you must make 2 supreme shards, 1 earth and 1 positive. The shards need to both match on their other two aspects. (for example; both must be material and dominion for acid blast mineral II, or both must be material and escalation for +2 exceptional constitution mineral II, etc).

    VERY IMPORTANT!
    You lost me at "Very Important".

    I really need to get up there and start crafting. I have so much to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningDownTheHouse View Post
    A good argument can be made for putting healing amplification 20% on your second tod ring.
    Not really. 20% healing amp is an effect thats available in 2 other slots (bracers and armor), while con can't be put anywhere else without lowering your dps.

    Far as not using the min2 vs XX monster.. Well then your not using that +2 con on there either then, so its a moot point.

    All 4 of my Barbarians setups include max healing amp, +2 exc str and con without sacrificing anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Not really. 20% healing amp is an effect thats available in 2 other slots (bracers and armor), while con can't be put anywhere else without lowering your dps.
    In both cases you sacrifice somthing else which could be potentially more useful, and probably will result in better dps. So if you don't want to sacrifice those you have to choose healing amp or con. Imo +20% healing amp > +2 con.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Far as not using the min2 vs XX monster.. Well then your not using that +2 con on there either then, so its a moot point.
    Imo the extra hp and longer rage are most usfull for tanking raid bosses anyway (hp for survaivability, longer rage means less chance that you will need to rerage while tanking). For trash mobs, meh (yes, even on epic).

    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    All 4 of my Barbarians setups include max healing amp, +2 exc str and con without sacrificing anything.
    Again, a setup like that means you are probably sacrificing somthing that can potentioaly be more usful.
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    I've actually been having this very same debate with myself. I'm searching for the Encrusted Ring, and eventually the monk ring. I've been trying to decide which would be better for the monk ring... +2 con or 20% healing amp. I have the levik's bracers already, but that would be their only function since the +6 str comes on the FB ring as well (well, there's always the insight bonus when equipping the shield, but I've given up on barbarian AC what with all the vicious damage).

    So it seems that bracer slot could go to something more useful. Greensteel guard item, for example.

    I'm still not sure what I'm going to do.

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