Good crafted items for a cleric?

[CheapToad1]

I want to start collecting items that I will need, but I'm not sure what items I need to be working towards.

[Angelus_dead]

The item to start collecting is Large Devil Scales. That's the most difficult to acquire, so it will limit what you can make. (And some of them could be traded for whatever else you might need)

The most obvious suggestion for a cleric would be a clothing of +300 spellpoints and wisdom 6, optionally with conc opp mana income. A dagger with +9 wisdom might be nice for offensive casting.

[Enochroot]

The item to start collecting is Large Devil Scales. That's the most difficult to acquire, so it will limit what you can make. (And some of them could be traded for whatever else you might need)

The most obvious suggestion for a cleric would be a clothing of +300 spellpoints and wisdom 6, optionally with conc opp mana income. A dagger with +9 wisdom might be nice for offensive casting.

I'd recommend against wiz VI on the GS item these days - it comes on FAR too many other useful items to waste a GS slot with it. The +150 exceptional SP + conc. opp + wisdom 6 + something (blindness/disease immune, other things) gets my vote.

[CheapToad1]

Good info. Thanx

Where can I find a list of items that I could use?

Overall I'm finding most of the crafting info very confusing.

Also, I can not seem to find any of the items you mentioned on any sites.

[samho]

I would recommend the Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook thread for everyone who are new for shroud / greensteel crafting. Just read the page one. DDOwiki also do a great job on greensteel.

...
snip
...

The +150 exceptional SP + conc. opp + wisdom 6 + something (blindness/disease immune, other things) gets my vote.

I think it depend on how often you can gather your resource from shroud -- are you fairly new player and only got 1 or so character able to run shroud at the moment? If you do have a couple toons running shroud non-stop, and large ingredient / duo superme shard wasn't a big problem for you, then Enochroot is right, creating a Concordinate Opposition greensteel accessory was the way to go (and Encochroot's suggestion was a good example)


However, if this is not the case (yes, I do remember when I only got 1 or 2 character able to run shroud), every single ingredient from shroud was very precious for you -- then maybe you could also consider craft a single superme shard version of air/air/air accessory with Elemental Energy / Spell Power / Greater Spell Power (which give you 10 extra HP and 150 exceptional SP, also give you 90sec haste click 3x/day, and Air Guard when you are getting hit, chance to grant you another short term haste and / or knockdown attacker ) -- and it only cost you 2 large scale instead of 5 large scale from the Concordinate Opposition version.

[Enochroot]

I would recommend the Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook thread for everyone who are new for shroud / greensteel crafting. Just read the page one. DDOwiki also do a great job on greensteel.




I think it depend on how often you can gather your resource from shroud -- are you fairly new player and only got 1 or so character able to run shroud at the moment? If you do have a couple toons running shroud non-stop, and large ingredient / duo superme shard wasn't a big problem for you, then Enochroot is right, creating a Concordinate Opposition greensteel accessory was the way to go (and Encochroot's suggestion was a good example)


However, if this is not the case (yes, I do remember when I only got 1 or 2 character able to run shroud), every single ingredient from shroud was very precious for you -- then maybe you could also consider craft a single superme shard version of air/air/air accessory with Elemental Energy / Spell Power / Greater Spell Power (which give you 10 extra HP and 150 exceptional SP, also give you 90sec haste click 3x/day, and Air Guard when you are getting hit, chance to grant you another short term haste and / or knockdown attacker ) -- and it only cost you 2 large scale instead of 5 large scale from the Concordinate Opposition version.

I would agree if you could deconstruct that later when you realize in fact you do want a dual shard version and now have 3 large scales, and have to decide if you want to get 2 more and replace the item you already made previously. You WILL eventually get there - set your sights high, or you will always regret it.

Ok, maybe I'm out of touch with the casual player. =)

[Hendrik]

Good info. Thanx

Where can I find a list of items that I could use?

Overall I'm finding most of the crafting info very confusing.

Also, I can not seem to find any of the items you mentioned on any sites.

Fear not Toad, you can make a superior character, even for end game, without the use of ANY GS.

Liberating experience...

Try this list Toad;

Static & Unique Reward List

[Enochroot]

Fear not Toad, you can make a superior character, even for end game, without the use of ANY GS.

Liberating experience...

Try this list Toad;

Static & Unique Reward List

That's sort of misleading ... don't you think?


I mean, are you using the word "superior" as "better than average" - or "superior to a toon with GS?


Because if it's the second, I'm just not seeing it.

[Hendrik]

That's sort of misleading ... don't you think?


I mean, are you using the word "superior" as "better than average" - or "superior to a toon with GS?


Because if it's the second, I'm just not seeing it.

Sorry for the confusion.

Better then average, correct. GS HAS it's advantages and is/are great items, no doubt. But GS is in no-way the end-all be-all of gear, IMO.

You can preform exceptionally well as a character without GS is the point I guess I am trying to make.

[samho]

I would agree if you could deconstruct that later when you realize in fact you do want a dual shard version and now have 3 large scales, and have to decide if you want to get 2 more and replace the item you already made previously. You WILL eventually get there - set your sights high, or you will always regret it.

Ok, maybe I'm out of touch with the casual player. =)

Once you are entering the phase of "you do have more ingredient than you could use", chance are you are close to the point that you will earn your first Cleansing Essence any time soon (hint, 20th shroud run as their first character). And you can always create a 2nd greensteel dual shard item as Neg/Pos/Pos Concordinant Oposition item with tier 1 immunity / Improved Elemental Energy / Greater Elemental Energy. Regret it or want to deconstruct it? Probably not -- unless you craft it on belt/necklace slot before mod 9 showing light on Lamannia.

Of course, if OP was a veteran and have loads of ingredient sitting on the large ingredient bag at their shared bank, then Concordinant Oposition item was probably the first choice


[Hint] Save your necklace and belt slot from greensteel craft

[zooble]

I would recommend the Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook thread for everyone who are new for shroud / greensteel crafting. Just read the page one. DDOwiki also do a great job on greensteel.

i read that ddowiki 2-3 times over and its sooooo extremely confusingly overly complex for an aspect of a game.

the process of making the greensteel base item should be more than halved... ingredients to materials to base item amounting to like 12 unique items that may or may not be a part of it huh?

end results should be some kind of drop down list you pick at the start so it guides you (lets face it ... theres no secrets in an mmo and no1 in the right mind will randomly try out results outside of a test server)

not 1 but 4 eldrich devices what?

uncharged... charged... power level.... small medium large fries...

im all for customisation but this is over the top...

elderscrolls had it good... soulstone + item = select your powerups

[zooble]

Once you are entering the phase of "you do have more ingredient than you could use", chance are you are close to the point that you will earn your first Cleansing Essence any time soon (hint, 20th shroud run as their first character). And you can always create a 2nd greensteel dual shard item as Neg/Pos/Pos Concordinant Oposition item with tier 1 immunity / Improved Elemental Energy / Greater Elemental Energy. Regret it or want to deconstruct it? Probably not -- unless you craft it on belt/necklace slot before mod 9 showing light on Lamannia.

Of course, if OP was a veteran and have loads of ingredient sitting on the large ingredient bag at their shared bank, then Concordinant Oposition item was probably the first choice


[Hint] Save your necklace and belt slot from greensteel craft

so don't make a greensteel neck/belt?

what items go there? im guessing sup pot 6 neck from amrath quests

but dunno about belt...

[Hendrik]

so don't make a greensteel neck/belt?

what items go there? im guessing sup pot 6 neck from amrath quests

but dunno about belt...

You want to save your Neck/Belt slot and a Ring slot for your PrE Item set.

[samho]

You want to save your Neck/Belt slot and a Ring slot for your PrE Item set.

And don't forget the legendary Torc of Prince-Raiyum-de II


But aye, save your necklace and belt (from greensteel crafting) by all mean, unless you just craft them as swapable clicky ( i.e. haste, displacement, wave of exhaustion )

[CheapToad1]

*head explodes*

Here's a really stupid question. If I'm level 20, what's the point to any of this crafting? To get better gear? Why?

[zooble]

some people play to experience the content ... ie: experience the quests and every aspect of the game at least once (think single player game where you do everything possible)

others play to make their char the best it can be ... these are the people with +4 tomes and craftables

level 20 might be the level cap but if you have all that extra gear you are more powerful than the average level 20 letting you do runs easier (new, old and future)

[JOTMON]

On my Cleric I have crafted

Cloak EP(EP) 10hp/50sp/20hp - Heavy Fortification +5 Protection - 2x Stoneskin Clickies

Goggles PN(PN) Healing Lore/Proof against Fear and poison/100sp - concordant opposition & +6wis
(I have the VOD Bracers for archmagi(200sp), and better is out there so the Wiz6 was kind of useless..)

Weapon EEE Wis+6, exceptional Wis +1 and Exceptional Wis+2 - 2x clickies summon earth ele.

This combination has given me some great coverage and enhancements in my opinion.
+30hp / +150sp / +9wis / Heavy fort and +5 prot
Undispellable Permanent immunity to fear - allways good on a cleric who can't cast/clickie while feared.
Summon Earth elemental and stoneskin clickies allways useful.
Concordant opposition sp/hp recovery-minor benefit (does not proc a lot, but better than nothing)

May change up the shroud weapon at some point(3xair maybe) with ring crafting from TOD but until then....

[JOTMON]

*head explodes*

Here's a really stupid question. If I'm level 20, what's the point to any of this crafting? To get better gear? Why?

Silly...
Answer.. Because you can....