Theoretical Pale Master Necromancer

[Aspenor]

Now to just fit in Past Life: Arcane Initiate for yet another +1 to DCs of spells.

hahaha no joke forgot about that.

[Aspenor]

Now to just fit in Past Life: Arcane Initiate for yet another +1 to DCs of spells.

and i did it, assuming the above poster is correct about being able to take Spell Focus as a bonus feat. Greater Spell focus has been put on a regular feat to fit as per his statements.

[BGP]

Thanks for the build. I have a lvl 20 wizard that I am going to TR. He is Elf now, built before Drow were available. I've played him as a PM on Lam and enjoyed it.

Between the bound gear, tomes in bank, and more, I think I may just do this (or something close to it).

One thought, maybe Diplo instead of Move Silently?

[Aspenor]

Thanks for the build. I have a lvl 20 wizard that I am going to TR. He is Elf now, built before Drow were available. I've played him as a PM on Lam and enjoyed it.

Between the bound gear, tomes in bank, and more, I think I may just do this (or something close to it).

One thought, maybe Diplo instead of Move Silently?

You should have enough skill points to do most anything you want with skills.

[BGP]

Thanks Asp.

[Seliana]

Asp, I believe your missing +4 con for Lich form in your build, should be 442 hp raged...

[Spisey]

Looking nasty Asp!

Spisey's half-way there with the Shroud already.


Not to mention the various con opp items I have sitting around.

Now to make this an intim / melee pure pale master build! Intim / DC 50+ WotB sounds very tempting!

[Progen]

I like this build alot, but i was wondering if you would mind sharing stats you think just a plain drow should go for. Obviously keep int at 20, but I also want to hit no fail harm and heal UMD. Of course this also frees up another feat because I can't get the past life feat. What would your choices be?

[Bunker]

Did you fit in mental toughness, for wraith form requirement?

I saw you had toughness for Lich at lvl 1. So you are good there.

[Myrdinn]

10 Base + 9 Heightened Spells + 25 Int Mod + 2 Staff or Death's Touch + 2 Spell Foci + 2 Lich Form + 1 Arcane Initiate = 51

Seem like you made a little mistake, it is 20 Int Mod, not 25, since the formula is:
(Int-10)/2

Reality would be more like:
10 Base + 9 Heightened Spells + 20 Int Mod ((50-10)/2) + 2 Staff or Death's Touch + 2 Spell Foci + 2 Lich Form + 1 Arcane Initiate = 46

Other than that, the build look awesome, gonna try it for sure.

Only wish they make the lich form better looking

[Aspenor]

Asp, I believe your missing +4 con for Lich form in your build, should be 442 hp raged...

I didnt change the HP to account for undead bonuses. I will.

Did you fit in mental toughness, for wraith form requirement?

I saw you had toughness for Lich at lvl 1. So you are good there.

I forgot about the MT wraith requirement, and might drop wraith altogether since the feats are squeezed so thin. I suppose I could drop the toughness feat due to the great self healing and DR granted. Something to think about.

Seem like you made a little mistake, it is 20 Int Mod, not 25, since the formula is:
(Int-10)/2

Reality would be more like:
10 Base + 9 Heightened Spells + 20 Int Mod ((50-10)/2) + 2 Staff or Death's Touch + 2 Spell Foci + 2 Lich Form + 1 Arcane Initiate = 46

Other than that, the build look awesome, gonna try it for sure.

Only wish they make the lich form better looking

Ah true. Thanks, I made my edits too quickly.

[Daehawk]

I forgot about the MT wraith requirement, and might drop wraith altogether since the feats are squeezed so thin. I suppose I could drop the toughness feat due to the great self healing and DR granted. Something to think about.
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You can't drop the toughness feat. Well you can if you don't want Lich form.

Form of the Lich
Prerequisite: Wizard Pale Master II, Toughness
Cost: 2 AP
You are able to assume many traits of a lich.

Form of the Wraith
Prerequisite: Wizard Pale Master II, Mental Toughness
Cost: 2 AP
You are able to assume many traits of a wraith.

Lich requires Toughness, Wraith requires Mental Toughness. On my wizard he didn't have Toughness before and I had him pick it up at 18 in prep for Form of the Lich.

[Aspenor]

You can't drop the toughness feat. Well you can if you don't want Lich form.

Form of the Lich
Prerequisite: Wizard Pale Master II, Toughness
Cost: 2 AP
You are able to assume many traits of a lich.

Form of the Wraith
Prerequisite: Wizard Pale Master II, Mental Toughness
Cost: 2 AP
You are able to assume many traits of a wraith.

Lich requires Toughness, Wraith requires Mental Toughness. On my wizard he didn't have Toughness before and I had him pick it up at 18 in prep for Form of the Lich.

heh thats what i get for not looking at prereqs of new stuff. i'd much rather have lich than wraith form, ill see if i can make due to squeeze them both in, not sure if i will tho.

[Daehawk]

heh thats what i get for not looking at prereqs of new stuff. i'd much rather have lich than wraith form, ill see if i can make due to squeeze them both in, not sure if i will tho.

One more thing you might of missed:

Hit Points
80 Wizard Levels
140 Constitution Bonus
20 Heroic Durability
22 Toughness
20 Minos Legens
30 Greater False Life
20 Toughness Enhancements
10 Draconic Vitality
40 Yugoloth Potions
------------------
382 Hit Points / 402 Raged

Should be:
Hit Points
80 Wizard Levels
140 Constitution Bonus
20 Heroic Durability
22 Toughness
20 Minos Legens
30 Greater False Life
20 Toughness Enhancements
10 Draconic Vitality
40 Yugoloth Potions
20 Pale Master Enhancements
------------------
402 Hit Points / 422 Raged

Unless where you put Toughness Enhancements you were talking about the Pale Master Prestige Enhancement. If so then you're right on that. If not, you forgot 20 more hp. Pale Master I gives 5, Pale Master II gives 5 more, Pale Master III gives another 10 moving the bonus to 20 more hp.

[Aspenor]

One more thing you might of missed:

Hit Points
80 Wizard Levels
140 Constitution Bonus
20 Heroic Durability
22 Toughness
20 Minos Legens
30 Greater False Life
20 Toughness Enhancements
10 Draconic Vitality
40 Yugoloth Potions
------------------
382 Hit Points / 402 Raged

Should be:
Hit Points
80 Wizard Levels
140 Constitution Bonus
20 Heroic Durability
22 Toughness
20 Minos Legens
30 Greater False Life
20 Toughness Enhancements
10 Draconic Vitality
40 Yugoloth Potions
20 Pale Master Enhancements
------------------
402 Hit Points / 422 Raged

Unless where you put Toughness Enhancements you were talking about the Pale Master Prestige Enhancement. If so then you're right on that. If not, you forgot 20 more hp. Pale Master I gives 5, Pale Master II gives 5 more, Pale Master III gives another 10 moving the bonus to 20 more hp.

YEah hit points are work in progress depending on what I decide to do. This post was actually made before Pale Master specifics were released.

[Daehawk]

YEah hit points are work in progress depending on what I decide to do. This post was actually made before Pale Master specifics were released.

Just supplying some info for things that you missed that I noticed is all. You've updated it a few times and I don't think I saw anyone else mention the +20 more hp for Pale Master III.

[LeLoric]

Add the abbot ring to your gear asp. Everyone loves 5 clickies of healing goodness.

[Aspenor]

Add the abbot ring to your gear asp. Everyone loves 5 clickies of healing goodness.

Holy **** that's a great idea, had completely forgotten about that item. Thanks Lel! Nice to see ya around!

[Daehawk]

Add the abbot ring to your gear asp. Everyone loves 5 clickies of healing goodness.

Yeah I saw that item the other day on the loot list and wondered if it would work. Abbot has some nice gear for Pale Masters.



As it says right now is Foe, Undead Friend. When in your Undead forms you can't use negative energy spells on yourself still as of latest maintenance. I have a 20 Wiz playing around with Pale Master over there. If it said Undead Self maybe, but all the ones right now that say Undead Friend can't be used to Self heal from what I've tested.

[Trillea]

Yeah I saw that item the other day on the loot list and wondered if it would work. Abbot has some nice gear for Pale Masters.



As it says right now is Foe, Undead Friend. When in your Undead forms you can't use negative energy spells on yourself still as of latest maintenance. I have a 20 Wiz playing around with Pale Master over there. If it said Undead Self maybe, but all the ones right now that say Undead Friend can't be used to Self heal from what I've tested.

According to Eladrin this should be fixed soon along with being able to UMD scrolls of heal on yourself.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...97#post2684397