Theoretical Pale Master Necromancer

[Aspenor]

Stryyf Brok
True Neutral Drow
Twice Reincarnated (32 Build Points)
Wizard 20

Ability Scores
STR - 8----> 16 (+2 Tome, +6 Item)
DEX - 10---> 12 (+2 Tome)
CON - 14---> 24 (+2 Tome, +6 Item, +2 Exceptional)
INT - 20----> 50 (+4 Tome, +6 Item, +1 +2 Exceptional, +5 Level-ups, +3 Enhancements, +2 Yugoloth Potion, +1 Litany of the Dead, +2 Wizard Capstone, +4 Lich form)
WIS - 8----> 16 (+2 Tome, +6 Item)
CHA - 16---> 26 (+3 Tome, +6 Item, +1 Exceptional)

Saves
Fortitude--6/7/4/3 = 20
Reflex-----6/18/4/3 = 31
Will--------12/3/4/3 = 22

Leveling Progression
1 - Toughness, Spell Focus: Necromancy
2 -
3 - Spell Penetration
4 -
5 - Maximize Spell
6 - Arcane Initiate
7 -
8 -
9 - Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy
10 - Heighten Spell
11 -
12 - Mental Toughness
13 -
14 -
15 - Extend Spell, Insightful Reflexes
16 -
17 -
18 - Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
19 -
20 - Empower Spell

End-Game Target Gear
Head - Minos Legens
Eyes - Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Goggles of Concordant Opposition (Wiz 6, +1 Charisma skills / +15 Hit Points, +2 Strength Skills / +100 Spell Points, +3 Charisma Skills)
Neck - Epic Torq of Prince Raiyum (Greater False Life)
Trinket - Litany of the Dead / Head of Good Fortune
Cloak - Stormreaver's Napkin / Bard's Cloak
Robe - Shroud of the Abbot
Wrists - Bracers of the Glacier / Epic Bracers of the Demon's Consort (+6 Constitution)
Hands - Seven Fingered Gloves / Gloves of the Glacier
Ring 1 - Sanura's Band (+6 Intelligence, +1 Exceptional Intelligence, +2 Exceptional Intelligence)
Ring 2 - Band of Syberis (+6 Strength, +1 Exceptional Charisma, +2 Exceptional Constitution)
Belt - Eerie Belt
Feet - Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Weave Boots of Concordant Opposition (+10 Hit Points, +1 Strength Skills / +50 Spell Points, +2 Charisma Skills / +20 Hit Points, +3 Constitution Skills)
Main Hand - Superior Potency VI / Greater Potency VII / Upgraded Death's Touch
Off Hand - Skiver / Green Blade
Double Handed - Staff of the Petitioner

Important Skills
Concentration, Use Magic Device, Move Silently

Use Magic Device Score
11 Ranks
4 Greater Heroism
5 Seven Fingered Gloves
8 Charisma Bonus
3 Skill Focus: UMD
6 Exceptional Bonus
2 Luck Bonus
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39 ----> Heal and Harm no-fail

Move Silently Score
11 Ranks
1 Dexterity Bonus
4 Greater Heroism
15 Enhancement Bonus
2 Luck Bonus
20 Wraith Form
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53 <----situationally used, items not left on permanently

Hit Points
80 Wizard Levels
140 Constitution Bonus
20 Heroic Durability
22 Toughness
20 Minos Legens
30 Greater False Life
20 Toughness Enhancements
10 Draconic Vitality
40 Yugoloth Potions
20 Pale Master
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402 Hit Points / 422 Raged

Necromancy Spell DC
10 Base + 9 Heightened Spells + 20 Int Mod + 2 Staff or Death's Touch + 2 Spell Foci + 2 Lich Form + 1 Arcane Initiate = 46

Here's the concept, which assumes that Pale Masters will heal from negative energy. The synergy of the Pale Master class and the Shroud of the Abbot will heal the Pale Master for every strike he takes from melee, essentially giving him a massive stackable DR which works even while stoneskin is on, and also in conjunction with the stackable DR offered by the temporary HP procs of the Demon Queen Bracers. Against creatures that deal lower damage, the character would essentially be healing as he continually gets hit.

When needed for healing, the necromancer switches to his UMD gear and heals the negative level gained from the DQ bracers, or Harm scrolls if he is very low on hit points.

This will be extremely gear-intensive, but at least I think I'll enjoy the grind. The gear layout could also be improved if Stormreaver, Titan and Abbot gear were made available for epic crafting. This would make room for +6 charisma or exceptional charisma on more essential items.

[Aspenor]

What, no comments? I know this one is based nearly entirely off theoretical information that we don't yet have, but I think the concept is staggering, personally. With Stoneskin active, this guy will have around 30 passive DR.

[Hendrik]

What, no comments? I know this one is based nearly entirely off theoretical information that we don't yet have, but I think the concept is staggering, personally. With Stoneskin active, this guy will have around 30 passive DR.

I am playing a Necro rather similar but of course not a TR under his belt.

Not nearly as detailed in layout/planning but very similar nonetheless.

I won't reach the 46 INT, but a respectable 40-42 with ideal looting.

We only have slight differences - stemming from different playstyles.

I went Mobile Spellcasting vs Toughness. Odd choice I will admit, but with TP'ing MOBs and the love they have for Casters, I found moving faster and casting was beneficial for me - not disappointed in the choice. This is the only difference in how we have chosen our Feats.

One of the hardest things for me so far is spending AP. Of course INT, SPen, SP, Concentration, etc. But where to put the rest? Not many easy decisions when trying to stick to PnP Specialized School rules.

Pale Master or not, the Necromancer is a unique and powerful 'class' to play and am very happy with the route I have taken.

So Asp, is this something you plan on pursuing or just a thought project?

[Xyfiel]

Fix your feats. Got your metas and normal ones backwards.

[Aspenor]

Fix your feats. Got your metas and normal ones backwards.

Hmm, for some reason I had thought wizards could take spell foci as their bonus feats. No matter, it's an easy change.
EDIT-ahhh the insightful reflexes feat, got lazy when editing. thanks.

[Aspenor]

So Asp, is this something you plan on pursuing or just a thought project?

If Pale Master is designed as per my expectations, then yes, I'll do it.

[Xyfiel]

Hmm, for some reason I had thought wizards could take spell foci as their bonus feats. No matter, it's an easy change.
EDIT-ahhh the insightful reflexes feat, got lazy when editing. thanks.

Never recall hearing that. I have a lot of arcane knowledge, but this piques my interest.

[Hendrik]

If Pale Master is designed as per my expectations, then yes, I'll do it.

Hehe.

I hope they can meet expectations - either way I'll still have a fun Necromancer to play...

[Chaosprism]

Actually the bonus feats wizards get in pnp, I was sure they were more than just metamagic feats.

I think spell focus etc were there also. DDo only gives metamagic abilities to choose from though.

[Aspenor]

updated OP with Update 3 info, bumped to keep for reference.

[Visty]

unless it got changed, lichform is +4 int, not +2. so you get 52int

[Aspenor]

unless it got changed, lichform is +4 int, not +2. so you get 52int

you're right, i got my references crossed up (+4 int, +2 necro DC's). thanks for the reminder.

[WeaselKing]

unless it got changed, lichform is +4 int, not +2. so you get 52int

you're right, i got my references crossed up (+4 int, +2 necro DC's). thanks for the reminder.

Lich form IS +4 but 20+4+6+3+5+3+2+1+4=50. Not 52.

This was driving me crazy comparing ot to my Warforged til I tried the math.

[Syldra]

i can confirm, yes, you can take spell focus as wizard bonus. greater focus can't be taken as bonus tho.
(just leveled my tinker to 17 last night ^^)

only thing that strikes me as off here - wasn't palemaster set changed from double negetive energy taken to epic nullification?

[Aspenor]

Lich form IS +4 but 20+4+6+3+5+3+2+1+4=50. Not 52.

This was driving me crazy comparing ot to my Warforged til I tried the math.

I'll double-check it, I might have fudged up the original calc somewhere along the way. I just edited the originals to be a little higher.

[Khellendros13]

No one played a Wizard recently?

You can pick Spell Focus as a free feat.

Have you tested if %200 fort in Lich form goes to %150 with a Yugo int potion?

[Aspenor]

Lich form IS +4 but 20+4+6+3+5+3+2+1+4=50. Not 52.

This was driving me crazy comparing ot to my Warforged til I tried the math.

I think you were right about this unless I missed something again. I must have doubled a +2 somewhere in the original calc when I first posted this.

i can confirm, yes, you can take spell focus as wizard bonus. greater focus can't be taken as bonus tho.
(just leveled my tinker to 17 last night ^^)

only thing that strikes me as off here - wasn't palemaster set changed from double negetive energy taken to epic nullification?

I had thought I edited out all the references to the old set, feel free to show me where I missed one so I can edit it out.

edit * I think i found it, thanks Syldra.

[Syldra]

you mentioned a synergy between shroud of the abbot and palemaster set, which seemed to me you were thinking off the old bonus. unless potency effects how much the shroud hurts you for? doesn't seem like it should, to me. but i've never had one, so...

and then you edit it while i'm typing this, naturally.

[Aspenor]

you mentioned a synergy between shroud of the abbot and palemaster set, which seemed to me you were thinking off the old bonus. unless potency effects how much the shroud hurts you for? doesn't seem like it should, to me. but i've never had one, so...

and then you edit it while i'm typing this, naturally.

my forum-fu is strong

[MrCow]

Now to just fit in Past Life: Arcane Initiate for yet another +1 to DCs of spells.