What makes a "good" player?

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

Good players not only know what they can do, they know what they can't do.

[Eurytos]

This isnt true. Evidently you have never played with Stalksdeath. His ranged character will shock you in its efficiency and proficiency. In fact Ill go as far as to say he was an excellent melee player to begin with that wanted the added challenge of playing a ranged. His ranged toon has never touched a melee weapon. He is an excellent player. Good players can make **** builds outshine the best builds out there.

Slimebag ftw

[Aranticus]

Lots of toughness is not necessarily bad. Pure fighter kensais just going for DPS could fit more than 1 toughness and still take all DPS feats. More HP doesn't hurt.

...And you're describing builds, not players. A good player can still outperform bad ones with subpar builds.

what you say is right too but let me add on more to my post

when you get all the feats you need and load up on toughness is good. however, if one is sacrificing some important feats for added hp ie quicken for toughness, IC for toughness (unless only using min2s), etc, then this is really bad

as for builds, good players generally build better toons than bad players. the reason is they know what works, what not. knowledge of the game is an indication of experience and ability

[Superman22]

Whenever I'm in a group with Kally, I like to ask if clothing is optional.

Wow, no booze required, now that's my kinda chick Anytime !!!!

[Zorminster]

A good player will....

1) Know the quest and make pitfalls known to new players
1a) If they don't know the quest, they make sure to get someone who does and then lets that person lead the run

2) Proceed in the most efficient route to the end, completing only optionals that are worthwhile
2a) Will conform to whatever constraints were provided in the group listing- IE: doesn't zerg in no zergs, or properly zergs in speedruns

3) Know and use your characters abilities to the maximum effect

4) Absolutely know the weaknesses - it should never be a 'good' player who costs the group XP from stupidity.

5) Confer any relevant information to the group before beginning (Hey guys, i may need 5 mins of afk about 15 mins in- cool? Hey guys, i haven't gotten updated rogue equipment so i'm not 100% on the traps in elite. etc)

6) Carry baddies in most situations.

[Indrn_Fretgoop]

anyone with a fretgoop last name!

[r00k]

A good player can permadeath solo elite, blind folded and with the speakers off for the whole game on lvl1 - in one siting.

[Strakeln]

A good player can permadeath solo elite, blind folded and with the speakers off for the whole game on lvl1 - in one siting.

Nah, that's a mediocre player.

The really good players have the game completed before they're finished rolling their character.

[Slink]

Nah, that's a mediocre player.

The really good players have the game completed before they're finished rolling their character.

Oh, so that's why you guys reroll so much?

[Strakeln]

Oh, so that's why you guys reroll so much?

Most of my characters are 3 years old

You've never seen the "complete the game" button?

[NXPlasmid]

Most of my characters are 3 years old

Most of my characters act like 3 year olds!

[Strakeln]

Most of my characters act like 3 year olds!

The player behind my character acts... oh, wait... never mind

[Emili]

Most of my characters act like 3 year olds!

The player behind my characters do seem to misbehave, but I assure you unlike a three-year old.

[Thrudh]

A good player will....

1) Know the quest and make pitfalls known to new players
1a) If they don't know the quest, they make sure to get someone who does and then lets that person lead the run

You're not a good player if you can't figure out a quest on your own.

[Thrudh]

Good players think about the team....

When I'm running through the pools on my cleric in the Shroud Part 5, and the bard runs over to me, and throws haste on me... Or when his song is about to run out, and he's paying attention and refreshes it... That's when I think to myself "That guy is a good player".

[Emili]

Good players think about the team....

When I'm running through the pools on my cleric in the Shroud Part 5, and the bard runs over to me, and throws haste on me... Or when his song is about to run out, and he's paying attention and refreshes it... That's when I think to myself "That guy is a good player".

Be always toss haste and song on the cleric, and when he not be lookin - club 'im in the head with m' mad lute.

[Slink]

Be always toss haste and song on the cleric, and when he not be lookin - club 'im in the head with m' mad lute.

This is true.
Once even took to sending me tells as a distraction.
Woke up to find Sal had stolen all my loot.

[Jay203]

This is true.
Once even took to sending me tells as a distraction.
Woke up to find Sal had stolen all my loot.

slink got pwned~

[jasonchrist]

As long as they don't tell me how to play or build my character, I usually don't have a problem with them.

[DasLurch]

Good players blame Docktr for all of the Large Bones they pull out of the shroud.