Barbarian Dwarf full-dps

[Renothebest]

hi guys,
I've just finished to modify an old build and planning it to lvl 20. It's for a 28-point full-dps raging barbarian. What do you think?

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Level 20 Chaotic Good Dwarf Male
(20 Barbarian) 
Hit Points: 442
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 6
Will: 0

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats          Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    24
Dexterity            10                    10
Constitution         17                    22
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma              6                     6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               2                    15.5
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         3                     6
Diplomacy            -2                    -2
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                     9.5
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  0                     0
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  8                    30
Listen                0                     0
Move Silently         0                     0
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                     1
Spot                  0                     0
Swim                  4                     7
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I


Level 2 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I


Level 3 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I


Level 4 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 5 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II


Level 6 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II


Level 7 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Desert Lore I


Level 8 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness II


Level 9 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I


Level 10 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack III


Level 11 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost III


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II


Level 13 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III


Level 14 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III


Level 16 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II


Level 17 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost IV


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker III


Level 19 (Barbarian)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II


Level 20 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Might

[mediocresurgeon]

Dwarves make pretty good barbarians, but Warforged make the best ones.

Go 'forged or go home!

[Renothebest]

Dwarves make pretty good barbarians, but Warforged make the best ones.

Go 'forged or go home!

well, not everyone can afford a VIP account or buying WF race... I'd like comments about the build not about the class.

[Inspire]

Looks fine, couple minor tweaks I would suggest;

See about maxing Dwarven Spell Resistance and Barbarian Power Rage. To achieve those, I would suggest dropping Dwarven Axe Attack I and II and perhaps Extend Rage IV.

[Shade]

Looks like my max dps build, just you sacrificed dex for 1 more con and took tthe feats is a weird order (toughness first is a waste imo, it's 3 hitpoints, and damage taken at the low lvls is very minor so you don't need more hp, you need more damage that the THF feat would provide.

Should be fine tho I recommend the stats in my build.. More con can be attained later when you unlock 32-point builds.

[Yargore]

Looks like my max dps build, just you sacrificed dex for 1 more con and took tthe feats is a weird order (toughness first is a waste imo, it's 3 hitpoints, and damage taken at the low lvls is very minor so you don't need more hp, you need more damage that the THF feat would provide.

Should be fine tho I recommend the stats in my build.. More con can be attained later when you unlock 32-point builds.

Toughness is overpowered at low levels, every enhancement give 10 HP, so you can get really high HP quickly.
But for a barb it's probably better to focus on DPS (they really need it!).

To the OP: This is not a max dps build, it's great at low-mid levels but lacking in endgame.

[smithj_2020]

I have a level 15 dwarven raging barb right now actually, I see you are going with the d axe attack and damage, but if you want a rager you are already going to do enough damage, i would suggest filling, extra, extend, power, and hardy rage, that is going to max out your rage which after all you are going to want since your a rage barb...I would also suggest getting barb critical rage which allows you to crit better.

[Shade]

To the OP: This is not a max dps build, it's great at low-mid levels but lacking in endgame.

lmao.

You need to wake up to realise your so touted monsters build has isn't so hot anymore.

THF Berserker DPS is unmatched endgame.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/464...nshot02368.jpg

WF on the right of me - excellent player, uses your monster build. Same gears as me, dual min2, +3 str tome, FB set, the works. Notice he doesn't have the agro? If im not around, he usually does. If im around, he doesn't. Wheather im on my WF or my Dwarf, doesn't make a difference. There's a reason for that. Sooner you realise that, sooner you can stop trolling these forums with your nonsense.

[Yargore]

lmao.

You need to wake up to realise your so touted monsters build has isn't so hot anymore.

THF Berserker DPS is unmatched endgame.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/464...nshot02368.jpg

WF on the right of me - excellent player, uses your monster build. Same gears as me, dual min2, +3 str tome, FB set, the works. Notice he doesn't have the agro? If im not around, he usually does. If im around, he doesn't. Wheather im on my WF or my Dwarf, doesn't make a difference. There's a reason for that. Sooner you realise that, sooner you can stop trolling these forums with your nonsense.

lol, sorry to break it to you but that screenshot doesn't really prove anything.
You have halfling heroic companion, and he lacks cold resist, so he stopped attacking.
He might also use tharnes to get less aggro, or just be holding back to let you tank.

Oh, and isn't that a + threat set you are using?

[Quikster]

I have a level 15 dwarven raging barb right now actually, I see you are going with the d axe attack and damage, but if you want a rager you are already going to do enough damage, i would suggest filling, extra, extend, power, and hardy rage, that is going to max out your rage which after all you are going to want since your a rage barb...I would also suggest getting barb critical rage which allows you to crit better.

Crit rage is no longer available for barbarians.

[Quikster]

lol, sorry to break it to you but that screenshot doesn't really prove anything.
You have halfling heroic companion, and he lacks cold resist, so he stopped attacking.
He might also use tharnes to get less aggro, or just be holding back to let you tank.

Oh, and isn't that a + threat set you are using?

Oh and you two need to let it go. Neither of you will ever convince the other. All the arguments are out there for peeps to make their own decision on which they want. OK shade so you can crit for 595. Thats freaking awesome. My wf'd fighter can crit for 238 with halflings companion with a khop. Neither are numbers to sneaze at, and both deal superior dps. Is one slightly higher over the other, prolly. But both builds have different uses, and can excel in different areas. One is only better than the other if thats the build you enjoy.

[Shade]

lol i guess in all the groups yargores been in, it looks like everyones attacking on your screen all the time... because there dps is weak.

Good dps groups in ToD, everyone goes solo DPS (on there screen).

It's called DPS-Lag. Any group with high enough DPS will lag the server so hard it will appear that you are the only one attacking - yet everyone is actually attacking. Everyone attacked imediately and never stopped for a moment, he got the cold resist before we even ran up there.

Something you probably never seen as you just group with all your buddies with your weak builds.

[Absolute-Omniscience]

lol i guess in all the groups yargores been in, it looks like everyones attacking on your screen all the time... because there dps is weak.

Good dps groups in ToD, everyone goes solo DPS (on there screen).

It's called DPS-Lag. Any group with high enough DPS will lag the server so hard it will appear that you are the only one attacking - yet everyone is actually attacking. Everyone attacked imediately and never stopped for a moment, he got the cold resist before we even ran up there.

Something you probably never seen as you just group with all your buddies with your weak builds.

Failsauce 2000.

*Laughs at the 8 SA damage on both hits on the screenshot*

[Yargore]

lol i guess in all the groups yargores been in, it looks like everyones attacking on your screen all the time... because there dps is weak.

Good dps groups in ToD, everyone goes solo DPS (on there screen).

It's called DPS-Lag. Any group with high enough DPS will lag the server so hard it will appear that you are the only one attacking - yet everyone is actually attacking. Everyone attacked imediately and never stopped for a moment, he got the cold resist before we even ran up there.

Something you probably never seen as you just group with all your buddies with your weak builds.

Please don't insult my friends just because our servers isn't laggy, that's just imature and unecessary.


What about your halfling buff and the set bonus? Should we ignore that?

[Shade]

Please don't insult my friends just because our servers isn't laggy, that's just imature and unecessary.

Your story is lacking in credability. If he had cold res before you ran up, and if your DPS is so awesome, how come he has taken damage?
I figured that he got damaged from the cold shield and stopped attacking.

What about your halfling buff and the set bonus? Should we ignore that?

lol. You've never done this raid have you?
I'm not sure why im bothering with this resposne.. Bored I guess.

Anyone who's done the raid realise that that particular boss has magic aoe spells.. One's called horrid wilting in particular hits the entire group for quite a bit. Thats why he's hurt.

If you read the text in order, you see he asked for the cold resist before we even initated the fight - you cannot attack the boss until after he finishes talking.

Yea I've got heroes companion and good sets. He probably has it too, and I saw him acitvate haste boost the same time I put on dmg boost too - it's a full guild group and we are very good at keeping everyone buffed for max dps. Regardless we're in the same guild and have done dozens of ToD together without any heroes companion characters and the results always the same. Even when im on my other WF build which has lower strength and only the ravager set atm.

Monster build doesn't match berserker DPS, face facts already.

You lack credibility for questioning that fact.

[Absolute-Omniscience]

Yea I've got heroes companion and good sets. He probably has it too, and I saw him acitvate haste boost the same time I put on dmg boost too - it's a full guild group and we are very good at keeping everyone buffed for max dps. Regardless we're in the same guild and have done dozens of ToD together without any heroes companion characters and the results always the same. Even when im on my other WF build which has lower strength and only the ravager set atm.

We have nothing to base his build on except your word that he is "uber", and that he has haste boost, and that he has heroes companion. Hell, you have a freakin +hate set equiped.

And once again, *laughs at the 8 SA damaged on the screenshot*.

Monster build doesn't match berserker DPS, face facts already.

You lack credibility for questioning that fact.

Face facts, you lack the mad-skillz to calculate and use MATH to backup your statements, we do not.

While a WF TWF barbarian deals marginally more dps than the Monster, your dwarven THF does not.

[Yargore]

lol. You've never done this raid have you?
I'm not sure why im bothering with this resposne.. Bored I guess.

Anyone who's done the raid realise that that particular boss has magic aoe spells.. One's called horrid wilting in particular hits the entire group for quite a bit. Thats why he's hurt.

Wrong, I have.
Rather funny that he is the only one who got hurt by the aoe damage. He might just lack healing friendly though.

If you read the text in order, you see he asked for the cold resist before we even initated the fight - you cannot attack the boss until after he finishes talking.

Yea, realised that so edited the post because it's to speculative.

Yea I've got heroes companion and good sets. He probably has it too, and I saw him acitvate haste boost the same time I put on dmg boost too - it's a full guild group and we are very good at keeping everyone buffed for max dps. Regardless we're in the same guild and have done dozens of ToD together without any heroes companion characters and the results always the same. Even when im on my other WF build which has lower strength and only the ravager set atm.

lol, so he "probably" have it. That's really convincing. This screenshot actually only shows that you got aggro with halfling buff and a threat set when you got a 100 damage hit and a 600 damage crit. Before that you didn't have aggro.

Monster build doesn't match berserker DPS, face facts already.

You lack credibility for questioning that fact.

Sorry, but the picture shows that you are wrong.

[Shade]

mad-skillz

lol. That what you 2 say to each other when you troll the forums?

I just imagine it in my head like this.. You two are on your bunk beds on your laptops trolling... then one see's the reply and yells:
"OMG broham, shades dissing our "mad-skillz".. U totally gota come to this thread and double team him with me, no ****!" (and he does, within 30 seconds)

Then again your probably the same person, 2-3 forum accounts to troll faster.

[Yargore]

"OMG broham, shades dissing our "mad-skillz".. U totally gota come to this thread and double team him with me, no ****!"

rofl.
+1 rep

[Absolute-Omniscience]

lol. That what you 2 say to each other when you troll the forums?

I just imagine it in my head like this.. You two are on your bunk beds on your laptops trolling... then one see's the reply and yells:
"OMG broham, shades dissing our "mad-skillz".. U totally gota come to this thread and double team him with me, no ****!" (and he does, within 30 seconds)

Then again your probably the same person, 2-3 forum accounts to troll faster.

Haha, your misinterpretation skills are amazing!
That was actually a quite good one.

I know you meant it as an insult, but rofl.