High Level Weapon Choices?

[arminius]

I love paladins. I'm especially happy with the KotC enhancement series, which helps out paladin endgame dps to an astonishing degree. So, I have 3 paladins, one almost level 20, and two level 17's.

The almost-level-20 uses khopeshes. Noooo problemo. However, one level 17 leans toward warhammers and greatswords, while the other leans toward scimitars and heavy picks.

I've noticed on the almost-level-20 that almost all the time I use either the Greensteel holy-acid-acid dual tier III khopesh on trash or the Holy Sword khopesh for the devils. Everything else except the occasional vorpal or greater bane has cobwebs on it.

Both characters have negligible AC, average HP (will prob end up 470-500+ at level 20 give or take), no possibility of TWF feats, and no feats for THF. All use Divine Sacrifice when practical. So it is really a choice between staying one handed with Holy Sword/Greensteel of warhammer or scimitar, getting the khopesh feat only for use with the Holy Sword/Greensteel, or doing Holy Sword/Greensteel TH weapons.

So my questions are:

1. Do you think it is worth it to use a feat to get khopesh just for Holy Sword/Greensteel use and nothing else, given that those two weapons cover so much end game content? If I didn't spend the feat on that, I probably would have just gone with another Toughness anyway.

2. If I went two-handed (since I don't have high AC anyway), is that worth it without the corresponding feats? Presumably it would be greatsword for the Holy Sword and greataxe for the Greensteel? Now that the greatswords have been sped up to match the greataxe, how does their DPS compare with greataxe now?

If it was a pure math decision, then khopesh or THF would win easily over warhammer or scimitar. Here are some of the cons though:

Con for THF: Not crazy about losing a sheild vs trash mobs, against whom a non-uber AC can still matter. And the Greensteel Mineral greataxe is practically uniform issue.
Con for Khopesh: Oh, look, a paladin with a khopesh. <yawn> Bored now. Wake me later, k?
Con for Khopesh: Despite the fact that at the moment I use Holy Sword/Greensteel the vast majority of the time, it just seems a waste to blow a whole feat for the sake of two weapons. And future mods could bring surprises against which Holy Sword/Greensteel might be useless.
Con for Khopesh: If I did want to start collecting other khopeshes, it is the most expensive weapon type except rapiers, and rapiers are just insane.

Really the "everybody's got either a khopesh or greataxe" reason is the one that makes me most hesitant. However, I've seen the numbers and they really are better than anything else, so I am torn. What think ye?

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[Junts]

If your ac is negligile, you should use greensteel falchions, holy sword greatswords a decent substitute

there's no reason to use a weapon and shield if your armor class isn't worthwhile; two handers are substantially better damage if you lack the dex for two weapon

Falchions will maximize the power of smite evil and divine sacrifice.

There are no holy sword falchions, so a greensteel mineral2 falchion would be a great investment.

[arminius]

Oh that is good to know, I hadn't thought about falchion. Am so used to the "they have slower animations" problem that has plagued us for so long that my mind had just edited those suckers right out of being in contention. Am glad to know that they have caught up.

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[Rheebus]

yeah, drop the board. While a little dr is nice, you only get it when shield blocking, which you aren't doing if you are swinging those pretty khopeshes. Get a big gun and swing!

Rheebus

[Jonny_D]

yup, if you arent using a shield thf is the way to go. just keep a holysword scimy handy for when you pop on your shield. What race are your characters? Vorpals in the hands of a KotC are a straight up dps weapon, especially the +3 or better of PG (especially before the capstone) or ideal +1 vorpal of greater evil outsider bane for the lvl 20 pure pally

[arminius]

I am using the Weapon Comparison Tool and it is showing the Greensteel Maul beating everything, including Greensteel Greataxe, Greatsword, and Falchion (all Pos-Min-Min/Pos as described above, and with both improved crit bludgeoning and slashing, which my pallies have).

Is that right? Or is that an anomaly with the tool, or it's that I'm not using the tool right? Why do I see the masses with Greensteel greataxes dripping acid and not Greensteel mauls?

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[Junts]

I am using the Weapon Comparison Tool and it is showing the Greensteel Maul beating everything, including Greensteel Greataxe, Greatsword, and Falchion (all Pos-Min-Min/Pos as described above, and with both improved crit bludgeoning and slashing, which my pallies have).

Is that right? Or is that an anomaly with the tool, or it's that I'm not using the tool right? Why do I see the masses with Greensteel greataxes dripping acid and not Greensteel mauls?

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The comparison tool isnt accurate about swing rates anymore.