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    Default Shroud Smackdown!

    Okay, so me and Yargore setup a Forum LFM on the EU boards and got togther a PUG to do a max dps shroud with.
    In the end we had some replacements because some people could not make it, so the group was not max dps, but very close to.
    The completion time was 14 minutes, without first planning to do a speed run and with giving instructions on the way, as a few of the group members hadn't played a speed run before. We did good in the end with a final time of 14 minutes, could easily improve it to 11-12 with some better coordination and planning.

    Pt 2 bosses:
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    Bearded Devil
    Gnoll
    Orc

    Video of the DPS highlights
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBavF8ffc0Q


    Smackdowns!
    Part 1 portals (Not the time running inbetween):
    164seconds/15portals=10,8 seconds each

    Part 2 bosses smackdown:
    ~25 seconds total
    ~6 seconds each

    Part 4: Arraetrikos smackdown:
    37 seconds

    Part 5: arraetrikos smackdown:
    73 seconds

    Player list
    Melee 1: Wegar (Monster Build)
    Melee 2: Yargore (Monster Build)
    Melee 3: Thermofusion (Exploiter WF)
    Melee 4: Belnerg (Exploiter build)
    Melee 5: Algore (Monster Build)
    Melee 6: Oakfist (15Rng/1Rog)
    Melee 7: Lelah (Exploiter build)
    Melee 8: Barenmarder (Tempest Rogue)
    Melee 9: Aronau (8/6/2 Human)
    Melee 10: Thylaciny (8/6/2 Halfling)
    Bard: Cazsandra (TWF warchanter)
    Cleric: Enygma (TWF battle cleric)

    The dps can be improved ~10-15% ontop of this as well, especially in part 1 as almost no one had dual greater construct bane, even less holy of GCB.

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    /applaud on.
    "At the end of all things, let it not be said that I didn't pull the switch that killed us all."

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    so was this on the eu servers? On sarlona we cant break 14 min due to lag, we have had several runs where we shoulda been 13 min or better but due to a wall of lag at the end or game stopping lag in pt one, we havent been able to do it. We have started using non greensteel to reduce dps lag
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    So you're telling me that you did it 1 min. faster on the EU servers than it has been done on the US servers....after admitting a while back that the EU servers don't have near the lag the US servers do....

    Ummm, congrats?

    Edit: Sorry, not faster, same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhykke View Post
    So you're telling me that you did it 1 min. faster on the EU servers than it has been done on the US servers....after admitting a while back that the EU servers don't have near the lag the US servers do....

    Ummm, congrats?
    Uhm, fail? Read the OP perhaps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quikster
    so was this on the eu servers? On sarlona we cant break 14 min due to lag, we have had several runs where we shoulda been 13 min or better but due to a wall of lag at the end or game stopping lag in pt one, we havent been able to do it. We have started using non greensteel to reduce dps lag
    Heh, yea the lag was pretty sever on the US servers, though I never experienced it too be that bad. (did a lot of 1round shrouds though).

    Overall this run was a great experience to go "max" dps and put him to rest in 37 seconds. That will be hard to beat pre-mod 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhykke View Post
    So you're telling me that you did it 1 min. faster on the EU servers than it has been done on the US servers....after admitting a while back that the EU servers don't have near the lag the US servers do....

    Ummm, congrats?
    More like, an EU pug manages to get the same completion time as the US speed record.
    It wasn't even planned to be a speed run.

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    i didnt know EU servers already had mod 9... grats dude! thats an achievement!
    If you want to know why...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absolute-Omniscience View Post
    The dps can be improved ~10-15% ontop of this as well, especially in part 1 as almost no one had dual greater construct bane, even less holy of GCB.
    The difference in portal dps of GS min2 khop vs +1 of GCB is very minor, ~5%. (assuming you put holy on the min2)

    A simple triple pos greensteel weapon will deal far more DPS to portals then a GCB, even holy of GCB.

    Back in the day when you could ray of enfeeble a portal.. I could kill a single portal with dual triple pos warhammers on my twf barb, just as fast as 11 other average pug melee could take one down.. That was astounding dps heh.
    (1d10+5 base, +2d6 +1d6 +4d6 +4d6 every hit, +4d6 on 20s)

    Shortly before they nerfed that.. Our best group had around 4 dps melee with dual triple pos.. We were doing portals in under 6 seconds.

    Tho since the nerf it's still pretty sweet.. The burst still work on portals ofcourse, just only on 17-20/x3.

    Anyways grats, good to see some REAL numbers from you rather then made up math for once. Should be a good gauge to compare to mod9 DPS if we ever get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post

    Back in the day when you could ray of enfeeble a portal.. I could kill a single portal with dual triple pos warhammers on my twf barb, just as fast as 11 other average pug melee could take one down.. That was astounding dps heh.
    (1d10+5 base, +2d6 +1d6 +4d6 +4d6 every hit, +4d6 on 20s)
    I didn't think they changed it to where holy/anarchic worked on the portals until after the ray of enfeeble nerf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    The difference in portal dps of GS min2 khop vs +1 of GCB is very minor, ~5%. (assuming you put holy on the min2)

    A simple triple pos greensteel weapon will deal far more DPS to portals then a GCB, even holy of GCB.
    Yepp, and that's my point, everyone is wielding minerals instead of pos, pos, pos or gcb. Either would boost the dps by over 5-10% + better dps builds would yield a maximum total of over 20-30% vs portals and 10-15 vs the rest.

    PS: A holy burst of GCB or anarching burst of GCB or higher + of gcb beats a pos*3.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Back in the day when you could ray of enfeeble a portal.. I could kill a single portal with dual triple pos warhammers on my twf barb, just as fast as 11 other average pug melee could take one down.. That was astounding dps heh.
    (1d10+5 base, +2d6 +1d6 +4d6 +4d6 every hit, +4d6 on 20s)

    Shortly before they nerfed that.. Our best group had around 4 dps melee with dual triple pos.. We were doing portals in under 6 seconds.

    Tho since the nerf it's still pretty sweet.. The burst still work on portals ofcourse, just only on 17-20/x3.

    Anyways grats, good to see some REAL numbers from you rather then made up math for once. Should be a good gauge to compare to mod9 DPS if we ever get it.

    Actually, they weren't evil back then. Only maiming worked, iirc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absolute-Omniscience View Post
    Yepp, and that's my point, everyone is wielding minerals instead of pos, pos, pos or gcb. Either would boost the dps by over 5-10% + better dps builds would yield a maximum total of over 20-30% vs portals and 10-15 vs the rest.

    PS: A holy burst of GCB or anarching burst of GCB or higher + of gcb beats a pos*3.




    Actually, they weren't evil back then. Only maiming worked, iirc.
    that is false there is a time where true chaos and pure good worked but not anarchic or holy which let to true chaos of pg being one of the better weapons to use
    If you want to know why...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    that is false there is a time where true chaos and pure good worked but not anarchic or holy which let to true chaos of pg being one of the better weapons to use
    Really? I could've sworn it was only Greater Contruct Bane, Force, and Maiming that worked back when you could enfeeble the portals. I definitely could be wrong I always had GCBs I was beating on it with, but I could've sworn that was the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    that is false there is a time where true chaos and pure good worked but not anarchic or holy which let to true chaos of pg being one of the better weapons to use
    And what was false? Did good burst work when enfeeble did?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buckyball
    I linked that in the OP.
    Just because it was LFMed on the forums instead of ingame doesn't mean it's not a PUG.
    Me and Yar have had previous experiences with about half the group, I'd dare to say it's a PUG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckyball View Post
    Linking the LFM and saying that it's not a pug. Nice.

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    Welcome to the 14 minute pug club.
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    pug= pick up group . As in formed on the spot through random ppl applying to your lfm.
    clearly not a pug but the best dps u could muster up over a week or two

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckyball View Post
    pug= pick up group . As in formed on the spot through random ppl applying to your lfm.
    clearly not a pug but the best dps u could muster up over a week or two
    Actually:
    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    Pick up group or "PUG", a group in a massively multiplayer online role-playing game which is composed of players who do not have any prior experience playing together
    It has ofcourse got different translations, but this is the one I use.

    PS: The EU lfm was only up for 5 days.
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    I hate to not troll, but...

    That's a lot of Min 2 khopeshes :O
    Arannel, Aqueous, Cocobolo, Arboreous, Erudirion, Congruous, and Cogs
    Ghallanda Rerolled

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