What gives....

[Braegan]

Yes.. embrace your anger...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao3FuGEGcU8

[maddmatt70]

Was in a pug run about 2 months ago that was a 5 rounder. I think there were still 6-8 of us standing at the end of part 4. When we finally killed Harry in part 5, two people thanked the group because they'd never gotten past part 4. I had to laugh to myself because I don't remember ever doing a 5 rounder...not even in the early Shroud days.

Some of my guildies and friends from Khyber have some absolute horror stories of a couple of pug shrouds they have been in on Thelanis. One of these shrouds was a 155 minute shroud that a friend had joined. I jokingly asked if he got the opportunity to watch a movie during the shroud (this is literaly 7 times longer then many of our shrouds on Khyber). We may have to run a few more shrouds with several of my guildies just to alleviate their suffering. To be fair one of my guildies had a good experience in an elite vod so their experiences are not all bad.

[ianliam]

let me just say i have a LIFE you know a REAL LIFE and when it comes to doing the shroud i don't have the time to just sit around and watch other players do the work, but for the puzzles, i'm "********" can't do any of them reaver or other wise, but i try to help the best i can, i'm not UBER or even great but i'm good, ok, just good at being a fighter. This is a great game for some of us but i don't have time 'you know a job' in my day/night to be uber but maybe someday it might happen 'maybe' so you uber ppl out there you might want to help some of the new guys/gals so they stay and buy some of those things you have on the AH.

[moorewr]

let me just say i have a LIFE you know a REAL LIFE and when it comes to doing the shroud i don't have the time to just sit around and watch other players do the work, but for the puzzles, i'm "********" can't do any of them reaver or other wise, but i try to help the best i can, i'm not UBER or even great but i'm good, ok, just good at being a fighter. This is a great game for some of us but i don't have time 'you know a job' in my day/night to be uber but maybe someday it might happen 'maybe' so you uber ppl out there you might want to help some of the new guys/gals so they stay and buy some of those things you have on the AH.

[ianliam]

oh yeah let the Quest be done before you open anything!!!!!!!!!!

[Ministry]

...
On another has anyone noticed how pug Shrouds are failing more and more? I've been in a number of them laterly just trying to get completions and man it is brutal at the frequency of failures. I'm almost to the point where if it isn't a guild run or a Legion run I'm just not going to bother.

Pug anythings...

I was at about 300 Completes to 3 failures a few months back.

Then all the sudden things started to go bad. On pure pug shrouds I'm now at about 80% completion only, opposed to mostly friends and / or guildies at 99%.

This stands true for other raids as well.

I was on 2 hounds on the weekend and they both failed???

The first one was on elite, but the odd person was doing their own thing and it got away from us... but I've only failed on 2 hounds before.

Then we are on another PURE pug on normal and we failed. I was playing my cleric and the other cleric was out of mana about 3 minutes in, so I was trying to keep the dogs up and people as they were dying for unknown reasons (they were wandering around the outside and / or bringing aggro to the middle.

I was like.. ummm... ?

The communication and quality of the avg team has really gone down in the past many months.

I don't know if it's a lot of solid people leaving the game to be replaced by not so solid, or people are caring less and becoming apathetic to trying and focusing, or something else, but it's getting silly.

I hadn't seen a raid failure in so long, I didn't even know how to respond.

Although, I usually run with guilds I know and respect well, or make my own teams.

This happens nowadays when I pug... way too much.

But, what are you going to do?

Pug and hope and take your chances or stick with the same people all the time, those who know what they are doing inside and out?

In order to get onto teams as less and less are posted, we pug more.

In order to meet and maybe help out newer people, we pug more.

In the end... I pug and hope for the best and if it happens, I smile and move on. If it doesn't work out well, I move back to teaming with friends and guilds I know will ensure a completion.

It's all a matter making a decision on what you will expect and accept.

[weyoun]

Some of my guildies and friends from Khyber have some absolute horror stories of a couple of pug shrouds they have been in on Thelanis. One of these shrouds was a 155 minute shroud that a friend had joined. I jokingly asked if he got the opportunity to watch a movie during the shroud (this is literaly 7 times longer then many of our shrouds on Khyber). We may have to run a few more shrouds with several of my guildies just to alleviate their suffering. To be fair one of my guildies had a good experience in an elite vod so their experiences are not all bad.

There are lot of new players on thelanis. The elite players keep to themselves mostly.

[Inspire]

Break the crystals, problem solved.

[al73r]

let me just say i have a LIFE you know a REAL LIFE and when it comes to doing the shroud i don't have the time to just sit around and watch other players do the work, but for the puzzles, i'm "********" can't do any of them reaver or other wise, but i try to help the best i can, i'm not UBER or even great but i'm good, ok, just good at being a fighter. This is a great game for some of us but i don't have time 'you know a job' in my day/night to be uber but maybe someday it might happen 'maybe' so you uber ppl out there you might want to help some of the new guys/gals so they stay and buy some of those things you have on the AH.

blah blah blah blah excuse excuse excuse blah blah blah.......

Good day to you sir!

[Mekkah]

This reminds me of a certain "doctor" I saw looting chests in my party the other day while the others were just all fighting away.

*sigh*

[RTN]

let me just say i have a LIFE you know a REAL LIFE and when it comes to doing the shroud i don't have the time to just sit around and watch other players do the work, but for the puzzles, i'm "********" can't do any of them reaver or other wise, but i try to help the best i can, i'm not UBER or even great but i'm good, ok, just good at being a fighter. This is a great game for some of us but i don't have time 'you know a job' in my day/night to be uber but maybe someday it might happen 'maybe' so you uber ppl out there you might want to help some of the new guys/gals so they stay and buy some of those things you have on the AH.

Lots of us have jobs and a real life. Running water rather than looting isn't very difficult. As for puzzles, there is no excuse for not being able to do them:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=163419

[moorewr]

blah blah blah blah excuse excuse excuse blah blah blah.......

Good day to you sir!

[Tuffmann]

let me just say i have a LIFE you know a REAL LIFE and when it comes to doing the shroud i don't have the time to just sit around and watch other players do the work, but for the puzzles, i'm "********" can't do any of them reaver or other wise, but i try to help the best i can, i'm not UBER or even great but i'm good, ok, just good at being a fighter. This is a great game for some of us but i don't have time 'you know a job' in my day/night to be uber but maybe someday it might happen 'maybe' so you uber ppl out there you might want to help some of the new guys/gals so they stay and buy some of those things you have on the AH.

So your Real life keeps you from dl a puzzle solver?

I'm try that on my next guild run sry guys i have a life i cant be bothered with dl a solver hahahaha

[ianliam]

some of you people have Lots of time you know when you live in your mother and fathers basement and do nothing all day but play A Game you can get uber. I'm not saying every uber person lives down there but some do. i have two kids a wife and a full time job cooking, cleaning taking my kids to the yankees game if not for some of you uber people i would know nothing about this game.... so thank you for helping me get a little better as far as respecting you guys you deserve lots of it keep up the good work ok i dont have to DL anything lots of people can do them i'll let them

[ianliam]

I'm try that.........nice grammer

[al73r]

some of you people have Lots of time you know when you live in your mother and fathers basement and do nothing all day but play A Game you can get uber. I'm not saying every uber person lives down there but some do. i have two kids a wife and a full time job cooking, cleaning taking my kids to the yankees game if not for some of you uber people i would know nothing about this game.... so thank you for helping me get a little better as far as respecting you guys you deserve lots of it keep up the good work ok i dont have to DL anything lots of people can do them i'll let them

You bother me on levels beyond 20!

[Mekkah]

You bother me on levels beyond 20!

You mean he bothers us on language and grammatical skills above 1st grade?

[Tuffmann]

ok i dont have to DL anything lots of people can do them i'll let them

ya and this why you never get invited back to any succesful group that can complete the shroud raid.

My moto your first shroud cant solve your puzzle no bigy let me help you here a link to the solver for next time

2nd shroud run need help no biggy u lost your solver link let me get you a new one

3rd time still can't solve your puzzle sry mate this last time your too lazy to solve your own puzzle we're to lazy to accept you on our next run.

you can go run the shroud with the rest that refuse to solve there own puzzle thinking someone else will do it for me se how far u get how much time u waste.

Time it takes you to give a pethetic excuse why you cant solve your puzzle could of dl a puzzle and solved it already

[Mekkah]

I'm try that.........nice grammer

You're one to correct someone's grammAr.

And I'd love to know what your "real life" entails. Surely, your "real life" job can't require anything above a 1st grade reading level...especially if you can't figure out puzzles that contain simple objects and colors.

If I give you a coloring book, will you stay inside the lines?

[Ministry]

You mean he bothers us on language and grammatical skills above 1st grade?

That was the kind of run on sentence our first grade teachers would have spun their heads around 5 times attempting to understood what was said, before they beat us senseless in hopes they could correct the disorder or knock that demon right out of us.

I guess this is a sad case of home schooling in the basement at mom and dads.