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    Default OK, I can't name names for anyone, but. . .

    Particularly irksome to me is anyone who bullies women (or children or animals, for that matter), as many of you already know. Similarly, anyone who harasses women is someone I would consider a bully.

    Threatening to post pictures of someone here because a bully believes she would be regarded as unattractive by the general population of Khyber (and abruptly made unpopular, thereby) is an empty threat and I've urged her to ignore the threats and to report any harassment to the administrators of the sites she referenced to me.

    What impact would the appearance of an active player here have on your impression of them as a player? Please indicate that you, like me, cannot be affected in your opinion of other players based on their picture(s), if someone were to post unflattering real life pictures of a prominent player. This is not really her concern. Her concern is for the harassment.

    A little context:

    While the Turbine servers were down, some who had active Facebook memberships received periodic updates from Turbine on a page, there. Among the waiting players was a friend of mine whose character names someone guessed and posted, late in the day.

    Someone else following that thread has used his Facebook Account to copy pictures from Facebook of my friend and has threatened to post them here, if she won't unBlock him (he used a friend's account to send this message to her). She placed that Block on his messages to her on that first day, when she was made uncomfortable by his messages to her.

    I've told this friend that neither Facebook nor Turbine would allow her to be harassed, but she remains worried. Please reassure my friend.
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    Report it as harassment. Move on.
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    Default Meh.

    That's what I told her, already.
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    Default Don't Worry

    Report said jerk to the proper powers that be. Do not lose much sleep over it though because if they actually do post your pictures then it will that much easier to take the proper actions against them.

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    ANyone who would dissasociate themselves with someone based on looks is too shallow to concern yourself with.

    My only question is why would you share images with millions of strangers on facebook but be afraid/ashamed of the pictures to be exposed to friends and people you know in DDO?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    ANyone who would dissasociate themselves with someone based on looks is too shallow to concern yourself with.

    My only question is why would you share images with millions of strangers on facebook but be afraid/ashamed of the pictures to be exposed to friends and people you know in DDO?
    And it's a good question. If you don't want your image to be accessible to anyone that can work out your name, don't put it on Facebook.
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    Default It's about the threats, not the reality, I think.

    She has pictures posted here, already. She's just uncomfortable with the attempts at bullying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithran View Post
    She has pictures posted here, already. She's just uncomfortable with the attempts at bullying.
    Nothing disarms a bully faster than "Go ahead and do it"

    If for some reason he does actually post em, I imagine it would be grounds for a forum ban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Nothing disarms a bully faster than "Go ahead and do it"

    If for some reason he does actually post em, I imagine it would be grounds for a forum ban.
    maybe that is what this thread is for....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    ANyone who would dissasociate themselves with someone based on looks is too shallow to concern yourself with.

    My only question is why would you share images with millions of strangers on facebook but be afraid/ashamed of the pictures to be exposed to friends and people you know in DDO?

    Yes exactly. Websites of such nature as facebook and myspace, whatnot, are of dubious benefit to anyone...

    And I feel for your friend who (seemingly) is not secure enough in her self image? confidence?... to allow the utterings of fools, cowards and ignorant people to get under her skin.

    I don't care who is, what was said, or what anyone looks like. Post pictures to you are ashamed of then mebbe you know who's problem that is.

    Regardless of it all. NO ONE EVER deserves to be ridiculed, harrasssed, badgered, threatened, followed or touched.

    so take it the right way when I say to you, tell her to grow a thick skin, nobody is ever liable to do anything anyways.. and ignore the creiten as he so richly deserves.

    he just isnt worth your time of day!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Nothing disarms a bully faster than "Go ahead and do it"

    If for some reason he does actually post em, I imagine it would be grounds for a forum ban.
    They're empty threats, like all the words from the mouth of a bully.

    A Forums ban at a minimum, I would say.
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    y u gotta throw me under the boat mith....

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    Bullies suck. This guy's a creep. If it were me, I'd say "go ahead and post em"; People will think he's even more of a jerk than they do already if he does. And good riddance if he gets banned. I can see why she blocked him.

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    Why is this even an issue? People see what she looks like every day (no matter who it is). I pity someone shallow and stupid enough to threaten to post pictures, but I pity someone that feels threatened by the thought even more.

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    The point is, this is an online computer game. People are entitled to present whatever persona they want and have their private life protected.

    Now, as it happens, I think the mature player base in DDO means most people have worked through their teenage angst and care not what others think of them; so most people behave like themselves. However, that doesn't give a right to people to "out" their real life personas, including by posting pictures of them.

    The problem, of course, is Facebook. If you get onto a "social networking" site, expect your real life personal details to be tracked down if you, for example, form a DDO Khyber group and let people know who you really are by allowing access to your private information.

    I'm not excusing the as yet undisclosed person's behaviour (assuming it's real and Mithran hasn't troll baited us all ), but if you're going to feed personal details and photos to sites that claim copyright over them, and sell them to other sites, advertisers etc., don't get too hung up if other people manage to view your info.
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    Default OK, I guess I wasn't sufficiently clear. . .

    Her pictures have already been posted, by her.

    The issue is not the specific threat, but that the threat was issued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithran View Post
    Her pictures have already been posted, by her.

    The issue is not the specific threat, but that the threat was issued.
    If they were already posted, where is the actual threat?

    Bully: Oh yeah? Well I'm gonna post your picture i downlaoded off of facebok on the DDO Forums!

    Mystery Person: yeah, and? Knock yourself out.
    /squeltch add BULLY
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    I'd say deal with the bully your own way... ignore him or call his bluff on the threat. Show him for what he really is. Should he be too annoying still... then report him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    If they were already posted, where is the actual threat?

    Bully: Oh yeah? Well I'm gonna post your picture i downlaoded off of facebok on the DDO Forums!

    Mystery Person: yeah, and? Knock yourself out.
    /squeltch add BULLY
    Why not tell this 'bully' to go **** themselves? Who cares if the pics are posted here, esp if she's already posted pictures up and doesn't have a persona that she feels she needs to protect. Besides, nobody here cares what anyone looks like anyway.

    To whomever is threatening this player: You're a little b**ch. Get over yourself.







    Besides, may as well jump the gun and start an embarassing pictures thread - I know I've got some out there lol.
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    I think this thread totally got out of context...

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