Transmuting discussion

[Junts]

Assuming the description is correct, nothing on your "may" list will be on transmuting.

transmuting of pure good .. .transmuting sword .. transmuting mace .. transmuting rapier


the other weapon properties are still present.



also, more power to the transmuting flametouched iron khopesh of greater evil outsider bane!

[xman26]

Why do the devs hate the casual gamer so much?
Why do the devs lie to us?
Why does Turbine ignore its customer base?
Why do the devs have to always nerf everything they can think of?
Why do the devs do stupid stuff without ever thinking it thru?

[noilli]

Thanks for making it clear what you're *****ing about!

[BigBadBarry]

Totally disagree. It is the only thing that helps the casual gamer compete with the vast majotiry of the power gamers in this game.

It's a competition?

Who knew eh...

[Korvek]

why Do The Devs Hate The Casual Gamer So Much?
Why Do The Devs Lie To Us?
Why Does Turbine Ignore Its Customer Base?
Why Do The Devs Have To Always Nerf Everything They Can Think Of?
Why Do The Devs Do Stupid Stuff Without Ever Thinking It Thru?

42.

[branmakmuffin]

42.

Belgium, man, Belgium!

[oberon131313]

Totally disagree. It is the only thing that helps the casual gamer compete with the vast majotiry of the power gamers in this game.

Casual gamer = 10hr or less play time/week
Power Gamer = 15 or more hours per week.

And this game has a population of roughly 90% power gamers.

Where are you getting those numbers as definitions from? I consider myself as a casual gamer and get 1-2 hours per weeknight and anywhere between 2-10 hours on the weekends. Based on this I could fall under the power gamer catagory, but the fact that I *just* last night got tiers 1 and 2 done on my first greensteel weapon puts me under the casual gamer catagory.

[dragonofsteel2]

I thought transmutting was to powerful, but what this really does makes hard for anyone lvling toons to get the right weapons to fight harry now. Undead killer is easy enough to make blunt holy holy holy. So it going to be real ugly watching pugs try beating the shroud at lvls 14-17. I do not like this for one reason there no way to remake weapons if rather go different way now. Kills transmutting weapons they will be **** now, need lower the lvls it adds to weapon and take it off the prefix. Otherwise all a transmutting weapons are garbage in the must cases, how many critters have metal type bypasses only?

[Impaqt]

As somoone already pointed out, STRAIGHT OUT LIEING TO US! The DEVS have a history of lieing to us. Saying they wont do something only to do it anyways. Proper payback in my view would be to VOTE BIOWARE at escapeartist. Screw the DEVS, Screw TURBINE for screwing over its customer base at every single turn they get a chance to.

When exactly did the devs say Transmuting would never change? I dont ever remeber it even coming up in conversation....

[Arkat]

Fluffy Quaker Parrots! That's why!

[Aeneas]

The casual gamer is better off with W/P gone. A truly casual gamer could never afford one previously.

[xman26]

When exactly did the devs say Transmuting would never change? I dont ever remeber it even coming up in conversation....

How about NO MAJOR CHANGES TO THE SHROUD CRAFTING SYSTEM? The changes they have made are major and have made those of us with little time to play and have just finished tier3 or tier3x2 items totally worthless and those alot of wasted time spent making them.

[Humperdink]

I thought transmutting was to powerful, but what this really does makes hard for anyone lvling toons to get the right weapons to fight harry now. Undead killer is easy enough to make blunt holy holy holy. So it going to be real ugly watching pugs try beating the shroud at lvls 14-17. I do not like this for one reason there no way to remake weapons if rather go different way now. Kills transmutting weapons they will be **** now, need lower the lvls it adds to weapon and take it off the prefix. Otherwise all a transmutting weapons are garbage in the must cases, how many critters have metal type bypasses only?

It means regular transmuting will go in garbage cans. Transmuting of Pure Good will be driven way up in price so the average gamer who needs one won't be able to afford it. All the power gamers will just use Min II and move on, maybe fill in the few gaps with specific weapons as needed. Widens the gap even more between power and casual gamer. Great move. Not.

[MrCow]

min2 weapons were not effected by this at all as they relate to devils etc: only lawful/chaotic/evil drs

Greensteel is innately evil. It will pass the DR of Ghaele/Bralani.

[Impaqt]

Why do the devs hate the casual gamer so much?

Huh? Pretty much all the changes I saw really help the casual Gamer....

Why do the devs lie to us?

What did They lie about?

Why does Turbine ignore its customer base?

In what regard? Seems amny changes that were made were in response to many folks asking for the situation to be balacned..... although not what iwouldof done in many cases, I can see why they did what they did.

Why do the devs have to always nerf everything they can think of?

Oh, I'm sure they coudl think of much more stuff to balance or change....

Why do the devs do stupid stuff without ever thinking it thru?

Like? Just because they didnt consult you personally doesnt mean the change didnt get thunk about.

[Hendrik]

I like cookies.

[xman26]

It's a competition?

Who knew eh...

When the DEVS constantly **** with the game design to make it harder for the power gamer, it makes it greatly harder for us casual gamers to want to stay in the game as it makes it even harder for us to do damage, get items, finish crafting.

[QuantumFX]

The logic here I understand, however, there is a material that allows weapons to break dr/good (flametouched iron): why exactly can transmuting weapons not become flametouched iron and break dr/good? Is this an intentional nerf of transmuting, or an oversight regarding the material?

I think it's a coding issue. The Transmutating ability currently just adds a bunch of DR bypasses to the weapon and they all stack. So, in order to mimic the flametouched iron or greensteel abilities to bypass DR Good/Evil they would have to add in weapon type Good, Weapon type evil and then we would be back to square one because it would then bypass DR Good + Silver or Evil + Cold Iron.

[Ghaldar]

No, it won't, that's the point. Transmuting will now only transmute past metal type. This will not be a problem for power gamers that will just make a second or third set of GS, but for those of us who barely can get together one set, its a problem.

You do realize that MIN II will can have holy or good on it depending how its crafted + trans for the silver and you still have your pit fiend beater.

[Jadeare]

Totally disagree. It is the only thing that helps the casual gamer compete with the vast majotiry of the power gamers in this game.

Casual gamer = 10hr or less play time/week
Power Gamer = 15 or more hours per week.

And this game has a population of roughly 90% power gamers.

What are the 10-15hr a week players called?

Cower? Pasual? Caswersual!