Correct behavior?

[Aussieee]

My only question would be;

Did you and your brother meet him???

Or did you run like a b%$#@ ?

Edit; Oh and Welcome to PWNY Fergie .


PWNY FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uh oh its you:P

[bandyman1]

Uh oh its you:P

Yep .

Mhykke = the leader.

Blah = the muscle.

Torcher = the elder.

Ishy = the comic relief.

Bandy = the smart ass .


Now you just have to find your role and we're all good .

Looking forward to grouping with you .

[Aussieee]

Yep .

Mhykke = the leader.

Blah = the muscle.

Torcher = the elder.

Ishy = the comic relief.

Bandy = the smart ass .


Now you just have to find your role and we're all good .

Looking forward to grouping with you .

Hm I didn't see where I belong?I got it I can be the third wheel is fine with me:P

[Quanefel]

See Mhykke's reply.

He phrased it far more politely than I would have Q.

I already know what the term "Internet Tough Guy" means. If you are having issues with it, I suggest you look it up and get a chuckle out of it like I did when I read the various web pages with the definition. Just a person suggesting that they want to met up in real life for that is enough to be labelled an ITG.

Be honest, if someone wrote something like that to you, would you not laugh or mock them for wanting to come beat you up in real life?

[seldarin]

Ok, i will come clean, it was all me. I did everything. I havent been online for the last 2 or 3 weeks and dont have a clue what happened, but it was definitely me i tell you. I saw the red bars going down and deliberately avoided healing them, the fact i was on my fighter at the time is irrelevant. I just projected the thoughts and it happened, who said thoughts arent powerful

All those thoughts i have had about really not wanting to heal ppl finally came through, there is GOD

Thing is, did you get quest completion, did you get your loot? If you annoy someone in quest, sometimes funny things can happen.

You may feel a bit aggrieved, but meh, things happen in quests. I know i have ****ed a lot of ppl off in quests, but guess what, a lot of the time im the healer, so you know, dont get a lot of grief over it

Suck it up and move on, same as the rest of us do. If you feel that you have a problem, contact said person and resolve it, coming for a whine on the forums doesnt exactly endear you to the populace and people may start thinking of you the same way as they do me, and that can be very upsetting lol. (insert here that i dont give a toss what ppl may think, its only a game after all)

End of the day, you didnt wipe, some ppl mightve got their noses out of joint over something, they mightve thought it was you instead of someone else, we only see one side of a story here. Got your loot, completed quest, nothing to see here.

As Quan said, take it private

[seldarin]

Hm I didn't see where I belong?I got it I can be the third wheel is fine with me:P

Hmmmm, you were talking about beating someone up and being a third wheel, by all means come along and join my show

[Aussieee]

As Quan said, take it private

He has been gone........................do not listen to him.Where is the fun in taking it private? Nobody could enjoy the show and Qwijy won't be able to make profit pls no need to hurt the economy even more......
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LOL Black:P

[BLAKROC]

Now, I know how fun several hotheads get when they get a chance to vent their childish mentally in real life and extend it in the game with other players might give a enormous glee too said group.....but really. I know there are players out there who since no one sees them or they amasses and surround themselves with nothing but like-mind "yes" men/women that somehow it becomes "ok" to act and behave like 2 year olds! Poking fun, belittle, being arrogant and so on might have been "cool" in grade school, but we are not in grade school. The mentally over the course of a few weeks from those who know why I write this I find it all perplexing. Perplexing in that most of this that is going on and being done to other paying players, thugs still continue to be encourages more and more.

What is it, you cannot help yourselves? You really think it is ok to go out of your way to grief players or whole guilds and for what? Your life that boring you feel the need to ruin other players game time? When I see these types of people intentionally flexing their INTERNET muscles for all its worth.....I sit back and I really do laugh at you. What sad little people it takes that in order to build your ego up other people must pay for it. Any of you INTERNET tough guys think that besides in this game that acting like you do would be tolerated if in real life others saw all you do and could call you on your BS? I know I would call you on it, but I do not let this being a game stop me from speaking up at all.

I know very well I will see posts like "grow thicker skin, stop complaining" and so on. Most would say drop group, squelch, just ignore, but leave out one MAJOR factor....everyone seems to ignore the offending thug. Why is that? Ignore the behavior and person....what you need to do.......is this this and this....LAME. Why are people afraid to address the absurd behavior and child-like ways from grown adults? Sure everyone is 10 feet tall on-line, I find that as an excuse, not a reason.
It somehow becomes their divine right treat others like they are beneath them, as if we serve them to make them look even greater as they perceive themselves in their minds. Get over yourselves if that is the case. Grow up and stop holding child-like perceive grudges so others will think your "cool"!

My only fault is I thought ignoring one of my grievers would go away by ignoring him. The policy in place does not stop harassment either as when certain people go after people you know.....then it becomes personal. It means that certain thugs feel so slighted since they cannot get to you who ignores them they go out of their way to go after you in other ways. How weak-minded are you? Do I need to name names, nope, he knows who I am talking about.

To narrow it down, it was related to me that 2 guildies I know was in a certain quest/raid. The whole time hearing little pokes here and there about what I had called said person days ago. Well not that I said it but alluded to the subject, which he got wrong, but that is another matter. In a certain part of quest/raid when heals are normally done with spot heals AND mass cures.......2 certain guildes noticed ZERO heals or cures being done to them. The clerics targeted only pure heals and made sure not even a mass cure went off in case 2 guildies "might" get cured. They both assuming since they were doing their duties in quest/raid as was everyone else or so they thought....died. Not only that, they were the ONLY 2 to die in that part. They checked their combat logs and sure enough not one heal or mass cure was extended their way.

What does it mean? Means certain thugs are allowed to get others in on their venting enough to ruin others game. I feel sad for the players who, if this is true, you allowed them to grief on other players. For what, because it is clever and it is "cool" Yeah, your "cool" alright!

I will not be responding to this post, there is no need for me either to respond as some are on my ignore list anyways.

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[bandyman1]

I already know what the term "Internet Tough Guy" means. If you are having issues with it, I suggest you look it up and get a chuckle out of it like I did when I read the various web pages with the definition. Just a person suggesting that they want to met up in real life for that is enough to be labelled an ITG.

Be honest, if someone wrote something like that to you, would you not laugh or mock them for wanting to come beat you up in real life?

Naw...I'd probably go meet the dude.

I like knuckle drill. Always had fun playing that game while growing up, and haven't really seen any reason to stop enjoying it now that I'm older.

But /shrugs; That's just me.

[seldarin]

He has been gone........................do not listen to him.Where is the fun in taking it private? Nobody could enjoy the show and Qwijy won't be able to make profit pls no need to hurt the economy even more......
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LOL Black:P

Lol, dont you have some GORNN ass to whip or turn into your biatch before he runs away again cos he cant face being beat by a lil girl

[seldarin]

Naw...I'd probably go meet the dude.

I like knuckle drill. Always had fun playing that game while growing up, and haven't really seen any reason to stop enjoying it now that I'm older.

But /shrugs; That's just me.

Always been a firm advocate of contact counselling lol, sometimes ya just need a bit to make the world go round, especially if you are GORNN lol

[Quanefel]

Naw...I'd probably go meet the dude.

I like knuckle drill. Always had fun playing that game while growing up, and haven't really seen any reason to stop enjoying it now that I'm older.

But /shrugs; That's just me.

It is one thing to say a person will meet the person, it's another to actually follow through with it. That is the point, they never have the intention of meeting. Its just talk to make them feel tougher than they really are. To entertain the thought of meeting up with them after they issue their "challenge" is best to be avoided because it shows that you are no better than they are.

In real life, things are different. Someone steps out of line, of course we stand up for ourselves. Yet when someone "acts" all tough over the internet, seriously it's stupid. If someone wants to act childish like that, it is best to acknowledge it for what it is. Talk. Nothing more.

Btw, did you even look up some sites on ITG like I suggested? Funny stuff.

[Raegoul]

I would kindly remind people and add a few things to clear up the random and wrong inserts of a certain persons "YES" men who seem to have no issue with backup up a "buddy's Behavior" even though it still may be wrong. You all backup your buddy need to let his actions speak for themselves as they are. Changing the issue, rearranging facts and the like is called a straw man tactic......of which is in poor taste to do in a discussion of sorts. If you reread what I posted I never said that what occurred is 100% the case. I posted that IF it did happen then that behavior that resulted in 2 members deaths are wrong as wrong can be. Sorry if your reading into more then it is, that is on you. It is not the person I have an issue with, it is this on-going thug behavior from even alot of you on here now that seem to think it is clearly ok to act the way you do in a non adult way. When you take anything I write or my brothers or for that matter......anyone who does not praise, follow, bow, worship the cyber tough guys on the forums....we are free to be chased and harass in game? How is that even right?
Debate, discuss and argue all you want on here....and leave it here. The moment you go from someone making your ego and god-complex upset on the forums to going after them in game......you then become more then a problem. It means you get that jaded you now feel it is right to seek an Imaginary slight done to you, now you need revenge. Going in game to harass, bad mouth, instill hate for anyone you do not like here to other innocent players is beyond wrong. I, oh course know saying this falls on your deaf ears because as clearly as the harassment continues towards Q, our guild and myself I still have yet to see the "PROOF" from all the haters what IN GAME slight anyone did to deserve this? One on one slights maybe, but whole guilds because people on forums feel wronged....WOW!

There is no truth that what one writes on forums MEANS that is what a guild represents. Cyber thugs merely parrot that view because it reinforces their aim.....to ruin others game for a slight they feel must be revenged on. If that was the case, do each and everyone on here seek and get approval from your guild for all you write on the forums? That is a yes or no question, which I am sure will be ignored. It is a ruse to say that individuals are the mouth piece of a whole group, that is very very ABSURD. I write on my own accord and I should not need to seek permission from my guild to do such things. Unless you all DO get guild permission I am calling out your view of that idea as BS! You only attach what a person writes on here to a guild because it makes it easier for you to chase them in game to cause grief on a grander scale.

Leave your absurd view to seek revenge in the school yard and join the human race. I have never done anything on purpose IN game or on forums to cause as much Imaged grief as is being suggested. If I did, then all one needs to do is say they are sorry and move on. My guild, Q and I do not go out of our way to ruin your game regardless what we write, we try to leave at the door. We play with others regardless of anything we might think of a person and if we do no choose to ruin with someone it is an individual issue, not a grief we demand others not involved to take on as well. Your asking and telling others to take part in stalking which is what it is. IF you go from forums to game to seek out and hinder a person or a whole group just for the enjoyment to seek a false wrong.......you clearly are an ugly person inside. Making fun of a serious issue as I posted shows a lack of self-control and an absence of some maturity.
I did not write of one person, it is not him I have an issue with. The issue is the poor behavior being directed at Q, our guild and myself. I wrote as an example for a larger purpose, to get you over your intentional grief of all of us. Enough is enough. I will not be driven from this game from this childish and unprovoked behavior. NO ONE gave those doing this any right to ruin another player/s game like you do by going in game and making sure you get non forums readers on your side and for what? To what end?

Doing that is intention but non provable harassment, it is being done in a way not to get reported but just enough to cause grief and boost egos. It is cowardly and speaks volumes to do such things to other players. No one is whinny, what this is about is speaking up against intention bad behavior being done in the dark. Let people play in peace and post without fear of thugs chasing them in game to revenge a "slight". Get over your egos for once in your life.

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Here is a good reminder ---> "I will not be responding to this post, there is no need for me either to respond as some are on my ignore list anyways."

[Strakeln]

The guy I feel sorry for is Aspenor. He really needs to change his avatar.

He already did.

[Strakeln]

No, that is inaccurate. An Internet tough guy or ITG for short is someone who talks tough over the Internet towards others on a forum, game or chat room. Usually they are some 12 year old boy who lives in their parents basement. And most of the time they make offers to meet their rivals in real life to come "beat them up".

That does bring up something interesting, maybe you can help. I do recall last year about this time someone on the forums doing such a thing. Asking to meet my brother and I in real life to you know, beat us up. Gosh, who was that Strakeln, any idea? I mean really, who would be so childish and act all tough like that? Oh, if I could only remember who that was......

Luckily for some, most things regarding that incident might have been lost for various reasons, all except for someone who might have a very long memory.

Normally I'd be a bit offended at such an accusation, but considering the twisted imagination of the source, I'm not. Really if you want something like that to hold weight, you should provide links.

Keep in mind, folks, that this is the same group that interpreted this:

Yep, that's right, I did it. Consider the gauntlet tossed.

I officially challenge both Quanefel and Shadowhand2 to a Friday Night Arena Fight. That's right, 2v1! Your two best melees against my flagship 28 point Orthon, complete with battle cries. 5 rounds, heavy betting.

Qwijy will recuse himself from stewardship for the match.

This is a friendly challenge, issued with the intent of getting people interested in the Friday Night Arena Fights betting process. The gauntlet has been tossed! Do you accept?

as this:

El [Quanefel] and I ourselves got "call out" like some school kid punks wanting to meet our guild in a back alley or something.....VERY childish.

[Strakeln]

Okay, because I'm bored and have some time to kill, I'll come out and say this. I know two people in particular won't believe it, but I long ago gave up trying to get through to them.

In contradiction with what your delusional paranoia is telling you, there is no organized effort to grief or harass the Shadowhand Guild that I know of. I personally have not asked/directed/suggested to anyone that they do anything to slight you guys. In fact, I still run with both of you on occasion. I don't bring forum issues to the game, but I can't say I haven't been amused seeing the server (and other servers!) react in the way they have to your behavior.

I will say this: the ostrich approach of sticking your head in the sand and repeating "what is said on the forums stays on the forums" over and over is a broken strategy. It won't work, I suggest a different approach.

[Altarboy]

Sad thing is....
they were starting to seem kinda normal....
now the old "wall o' text" has made it's regretable appearence(ow my eyes)
Why does every little thing that happens to you guys hafta turn into a serverwide issue?...
Do you guys have some kind of persicution complex?
it's idiotic and couterproductive....
if you want people to avoid you outbursts like this are a good way to do it....
your logic is dizzying ...
I honestly can't even figure out how you get to the conclusions you get to...
just play the friggin game and stop crying all the time

[Altarboy]

Okay, because I'm bored and have some time to kill, I'll come out and say this. I know two people in particular won't believe it, but I long ago gave up trying to get through to them.

In contradiction with what your delusional paranoia is telling you, there is no organized effort to grief or harass the Shadowhand Guild that I know of. I personally have not asked/directed/suggested to anyone that they do anything to slight you guys. In fact, I still run with both of you on occasion. I don't bring forum issues to the game, but I can't say I haven't been amused seeing the server (and other servers!) react in the way they have to your behavior.

I will say this: the ostrich approach of sticking your head in the sand and repeating "what is said on the forums stays on the forums" over and over is a broken strategy. It won't work, I suggest a different approach.

Of course he's lying...
I have 5th or 6th (shadow)hand knowledge of this...
I know a guy who was told by a vendor who was indeed supplied this information by a bartender who got it from the Titan himself that Strak is the heart of a gamewide conspiricy against the shadowfellows...
I heard he even uses his ill gotten riches to personally bribe every cleric on the server to "not heal them" and throw selective Mass heals...I too have been a victem of this malicious and unfair behavior....
Good people of Khyber...he is not to be trusted I tell you!

[Mhykke]

I will say this: the ostrich approach of sticking your head in the sand and repeating "what is said on the forums stays on the forums" over and over is a broken strategy. It won't work, I suggest a different approach.

I personally think that the argument that "one should separate what's said on the forums from the game" is two faced chickenspit. I act the same anywhere I go, whether it be real life, whether I express my thoughts on forums, whether I talk with someone over the mic on an online game. I don't speak one way on the forums and then hope that people ignore what I said when I meet them in a different venue. I realize what I say carries with me where I go, and just b/c where I said it is a different place, doesn't mean people should ignore it. I take responsibility for my statements, no matter where I make them.

[Talish]

I personally think that the argument that "one should separate what's said on the forums from the game" is two faced chickenspit. I act the same anywhere I go, whether it be real life, whether I express my thoughts on forums, whether I talk with someone over the mic on an online game. I don't speak one way on the forums and then hope that people ignore what I said when I meet them in a different venue. I realize what I say carries with me where I go, and just b/c where I said it is a different place, doesn't mean people should ignore it. I take responsibility for my statements, no matter where I make them.

I rarely post on threads like this but this statement is exactly how I go about my business especially this line:

"I take responsibility for my statements, no matter where I make them."

It's foolish to think that what you say in one venue can be ignored in another.