Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.96 DDO Character Planner Home Page Mustheal Level 16 True Neutral Dwarf Male (15 Cleric \ 1 Sorcerer) Hit Points: 176 Spell Points: 1407 BAB: 11\11\16\21 Fortitude: 11 Reflex: 5 Will: 19 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 16) Strength 8 10 Dexterity 8 10 Constitution 10 14 Intelligence 8 8 Wisdom 18 27 Charisma 16 20 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 16 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 16 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 16 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 16) Balance -1 4 Bluff 3 5 Concentration 4 22 Diplomacy 3 5 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle 3 5 Heal 4 8 Hide -1 0 Intimidate 3 5 Jump -1 0 Listen 4 8 Move Silently -1 0 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a Repair -1 -1 Search -1 1 Spot 4 8 Swim -1 0 Tumble n/a n/a Use Magic Device n/a n/a Level 1 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell Level 2 (Sorcerer) Level 3 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness Level 4 (Cleric) Level 5 (Cleric) Level 6 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness Level 7 (Cleric) Level 8 (Cleric) Level 9 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell Level 10 (Cleric) Level 11 (Cleric) Level 12 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell Level 13 (Cleric) Level 14 (Cleric) Level 15 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell Level 16 (Cleric) Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II Enhancement: Dwarven Faith I Enhancement: Dwarven Faith II Enhancement: Cleric Concentration I Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot IV Enhancement: Cleric Charisma I Enhancement: Cleric Charisma II Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality II Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality III Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning I Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning II Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning III
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12-25-2008, 11:05 AM #1Community Member
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????????? enought power for a cleric?
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12-25-2008, 11:57 AM #2Community Member
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Originally Posted by Mokeyman
Nope.
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12-25-2008, 12:03 PM #3Community Member
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?
Why not lol
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12-25-2008, 12:05 PM #4Community Member
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I would start with no less than a 14 Constitution
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12-25-2008, 12:06 PM #5Community Member
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14?
why a 14 dwarf after the enchacments i should have close to 300 if not over
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12-25-2008, 12:29 PM #6
maxing cha on a dwarf cleric is foolish
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12-25-2008, 12:31 PM #7Community Member
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i would say on a cleric period. but i guess some people might dig that new capstone. Originally Posted by Aranticus
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12-25-2008, 12:36 PM #8
whats the use if the str or dex is not there to ensure you hit in the 1st place? Originally Posted by jmonty
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12-25-2008, 01:18 PM #9
Originally Posted by Aranticus
whats the use if the str or dex is not there to ensure you hit in the 1st place?
You might want to look at the new Capstone.. Its got nothign to do with Hitting anything.. Its a Turn based ability....
Cant comment ont he build since I have no idea what the OP expects out of it. Not something I would personally play though.. However, How do you expect to take Dwarven toughness Enhancments when you dotn have TOughness for a feat?°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸A R C H A N G E L S °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
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Alandael ~ Allendale ~ iForged ~ Roba ~ Sylon ~ Pokah ~ Keyanu ~ Wreckoning Originally Posted by Severlin
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12-25-2008, 01:31 PM #10Founder
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Why would capstone matter for this multiclass build? Originally Posted by jmonty
And yes, maxing Cha on a cleric is stupid.
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12-25-2008, 02:53 PM #11Community Member
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I think the major issue is what he mean about "enough power".
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12-25-2008, 02:57 PM #12Community Member
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where do you expect to get all the +2 tomes? Originally Posted by Mokeyman
and are you going tolike geting oneshoted in the vale and shroud
lets not even talk about vod .....
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12-25-2008, 03:32 PM #13Community Member
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All 3 of my clerics started with a 10 Con, I can't remember the last time I died in Shroud part 4, and I have over 200 runs. I frequently solo vale stuff. I think the only time I have ever died in VOD cept for the first time in there was when our rogue failed traps on elite--I have 60+ VODs.
I melee sometimes, but I use Vorpals and various Q Staffs, so I am not drawing aggro. I am an offensive caster more than a healer on all of my clerics.
I like having a decent CHR --I use intimidate as well as Diplo, and I like my paltry DVs. Recently I have begun to intimidate Devils in VOD to keep them in the web area--it makes the quest a little more fun for me. Next step will be Orthons after I improve my DR and AC.
So build what you want, go with the ideas that you think are good, you are the one who will be playing your toon. Though, I would consider that if you want that much CHR not choosing Dwarf--you can still get 300 HP with items and stuff. Also Human gets another feat.
I think that the Capstone is Dookie.Last edited by moops; 12-25-2008 at 04:25 PM.
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12-25-2008, 04:14 PM #14Community Member
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From my experience on 2 clerics, you'd be better off dropping the charisma. 2 less CHR (1 extra turn undead) will free up 6 stat points. CON 16 will yield 3 extra fortitude save, 3 concentration skill, and 60 HP at level 20. Dropping 2 more to 12 CHR will give 4 more stat pts that can be used to round out your character (a little INT or STR). You will probably want a little higher STR to start if you plan on wearing armor, or you will have to dedicate an equipment slot to STR.
Even with racial enhancements, your dwarven cleric will have fewer HP than my drow build.
My favorite of my 2 cleric builds is a dwarven 2 monk/14 cleric. Evasion, HPs, AC, and saves are great. I also have a much nicer skill set (a cleric that can jump). I don't find the mana lacking at all, since I waste very little self healing. I also have a higher wisdom than otherwise achievable when in water stance. I can lose 200 HPs and still have 200 left so I don't worry about being hit as much.
With 1 level of sorcerer, there is no capstone bonus. I won't get it either on my non pure build, but don't really care. I'm not crazy about the sorcerer level since the only thing of value it provides is mana. I think there are better splashes that will provide better value (rogue, monk, fighter, paladin). I'd actually prefer a wizard splash to sorcerer for 1 feat (can offset what you trade for toughness) and a few more level 1 spells that might be useful situationally if extended (jump, shield, tumble, expeditious retreat).Margolie L16 Wizard
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12-25-2008, 09:00 PM #15
bah my bad, the new capstone is the death prevention ability and not dm Originally Posted by Impaqt
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12-28-2008, 11:44 PM #16Community Member
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It's not foolish if you intend to have maximum dvs available Originally Posted by jmonty
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01-01-2009, 03:15 PM #17Community Member
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No. DV's for the casters, turning and with max diplomacy you'll always turn the aggro away when it comes. Originally Posted by Gol
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01-01-2009, 03:38 PM #18Community Member
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if you put 16 points into cha on a dwarf, your getting a total of 6 extra DVs, which when they hit for 20-30 sp at most each, your talking about giving the 2400+ sp sorc 120-180 sp, vs having an additional 80 hp on yourself, 100 at cap. Originally Posted by Maxwell1380
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01-01-2009, 03:53 PM #19Community Member
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I dunno
I don't understand this person, onn every build forum there is one of these..one for fighter, pali, etc etc. An everyone has eaten a +2 tome in every slot.....I just don't get it. What does he think its fun to play with the char. gen. or something? lol
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