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    Quote Originally Posted by Talon Moonshadow View Post
    Just looking at the stats, and assuming a repeater fires three times as fast, I think the repeater wins out.

    Great Crossbow crits 17-20 or 15- 20 Improved Crit.
    Repeater 19-20 or 17 - 20 Improved crit.

    That's only 1/10th more crits.
    You have a mistake in your calculations.

    Great Crossbows have a crit of "18-20 / x2", not "17-20 / x2".
    With IC:ranged Great XBows have a crit-chance of 30% and Repeating XBows have a crit-chance of 20%, bit repeaters have a fire rate of roughly between two or three times that of a great XBow.

    on-crit effects will trigger more often on a repeater Xbow in the same time than on a great Xbow. not to speak of on-hit effects.


    The advantage of the Great Xbow lies only in the easier aquisition of weapons. How important this advantage will be for your personal play experience dpends mostly on how muchPlat you have.
    If you are rich, go repeater. If you are poor go Great Xbow. If you are moderatly endowed there is no clear "better way" for you to choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctus View Post
    You have a mistake in your calculations.

    Great Crossbows have a crit of "18-20 / x2", not "17-20 / x2".
    With IC:ranged Great XBows have a crit-chance of 30% and Repeating XBows have a crit-chance of 20%, bit repeaters have a fire rate of roughly between two or three times that of a great XBow.
    Incorrect! Great Crossbow crit range is 17-20, with 15-20 Improve Critical (Range).

    Also, here's something else for some people can chew on. Was playing around with the lvl 17 Kobold quest (Den of Kobold I believe) with some reptilian slayer bolts yesterday. In all of my noobness, I didn't realize that slayer bolts can instant kill multiple targets simultaneously while passing through a group of like mobs. For instance, you can kill three kobolds with one slayer bolt if it passes through three Kobolds to get to your target. I was testing this out since I realized how well improve precise shot works with disruptors/smiters/banishers (Banishing multimple targets in Orchard/Meridia with one shots are too funny). W/P works very well too through multiple targets. Just be sure to have improve precise shot and try to shoot the mob furthest away from you (but through as many mobs as possible).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myxalplyx View Post
    Incorrect! Great Crossbow crit range is 17-20, with 15-20 Improve Critical (Range).

    Also, here's something else for some people can chew on. Was playing around with the lvl 17 Kobold quest (Den of Kobold I believe) with some reptilian slayer bolts yesterday. In all of my noobness, I didn't realize that slayer bolts can instant kill multiple targets simultaneously while passing through a group of like mobs. For instance, you can kill three kobolds with one slayer bolt if it passes through three Kobolds to get to your target. I was testing this out since I realized how well improve precise shot works with disruptors/smiters/banishers (Banishing multimple targets in Orchard/Meridia with one shots are too funny). W/P works very well too through multiple targets. Just be sure to have improve precise shot and try to shoot the mob furthest away from you (but through as many mobs as possible).
    Myxalplyx -

    The crit range it 18-20

    Then with improved crit it becomes 15-20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myxalplyx View Post
    Incorrect! Great Crossbow crit range is 17-20, with 15-20 Improve Critical (Range).
    Weapons come with 3 different base crit ranges:
    20 ... low crit ... (5%)
    19-20 ... moderate crit ... (10%)
    18-20 ... high crit ... (15%)

    Improved Crit doublesthe crit-chance with the corresponding weapon:
    19-20 ... low crit ... (10%)
    17-20 ... moderate crit ... (20%)
    15-20 ... high crit ... (30%)


    The numbers you gave dont fit together. And i looked at the Geat Crossbow stats. in the compendium.
    Erzskalde (Warchanter) / Erzassassin (just passing through - ignore me) / Erzsoldat (waiting for TR-time) / Erzschmied (ranged Artificer)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctus View Post
    Weapons come with 3 different base crit ranges:
    20 ... low crit ... (5%)
    19-20 ... moderate crit ... (10%)
    18-20 ... high crit ... (15%)

    Improved Crit doublesthe crit-chance with the corresponding weapon:
    19-20 ... low crit ... (10%)
    17-20 ... moderate crit ... (20%)
    15-20 ... high crit ... (30%)


    The numbers you gave dont fit together. And i looked at the Geat Crossbow stats. in the compendium.

    Thanks for the clarification. Wish I was home looking at the crit range before I posted (At work again now) but once home, I am too busy playing.

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