Tempest TWF Questions

[SabinSeptor]

I've been wanting to make a decent TWF dpser for quite some time now, but I'm coming into a problem here.

I understand you need 6 ranger to get tempest which gives you bow str, twf, imp twf, and many shot, with 2 favored enemies. While on the other hand going 9 gives evasion.

Now for the mix, would you go Fighter, Monk, Barb or a mix.

I have been thinking about a 6ranger/14 barb (of coarse that depends on how long for the update to go that high) But this gives me tempest, along with nice rages, and crit rage.

Another thought would be to go 9 ranger/4 fighter/?? barb. This gives me bow str, twf, imp twf, many shot, 2 favored enemies, 3 extra feats, and the barb lvls give me rages and extra con.

[BattleCircle]

I currently have a tempest barb build that I am working on, as of now he is 6 ranger/6 barb, Dwarf.... he is always kill count leader, and manages to reach lower 40's ac fully buffed, and raged with no raid gear, that is including improved uncanny dodge. By kill count leader I mean he will have twice the kills of anyone else, the only thing that ever comes close is a good wf barb, or a very good dps rogue. Dex is never going to be much over 20 so range is pretty much out, except for the occassional pull. Strength is very good. I believe he is at 25 at the moment before rage or rams. I gave him 14 wisdom so that he could have enough sp for rams without needing a slot for a wis item (the rest of the spells are not much to talk about).

[tihocan]

I gave him 14 wisdom so that he could have enough sp for rams without needing a slot for a wis item

You know you only need 11 Wis to cast Ram's? (and the extra bonus SPs really aren't necessary as it only costs 10 to cast it for 6 mins)

[WeiQuinn]

11 Ranger gives you Greater Two Weapon Fighting along with Improved Precise Shot and Precise Shot. I know you said Dex would only be 20 or so, is that with enhancements? What is your base Dex? Greater Two Weapon Fighting requires a Dex of 17 to choose as a feat.

11 Ranger also grants you 30 point resists.

12 Ranger gives you a +5 Barkskin.

14 Ranger gives you access to the Freedom of Movement spell.

14 Ranger leaves room for 6 Fighter levels for Fighter Strength II and Weapon Focus/Specialization, leaving you with 2 Fighter Bonus feats.

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I'm waiting to see what the new Fighter Prestige Enhancements are before I roll up my Tempest Ranger/Fighter.

[tihocan]

Greater Two Weapon Fighting requires a Dex of 19 to choose as a feat.

17, actually.

[WeiQuinn]

That's right, I was thinking of Superior Two Weapon Fighting.

Dexterity 17, Two Weapon Fighting and Improved Two Weapon Fighting are the requirements for Greater Two Weapon Fighting.

[maddmatt70]

11 Ranger gives you Greater Two Weapon Fighting along with Improved Precise Shot and Precise Shot. I know you said Dex would only be 20 or so, is that with enhancements? What is your base Dex? Greater Two Weapon Fighting requires a Dex of 17 to choose as a feat.

11 Ranger also grants you 30 point resists.

12 Ranger gives you a +5 Barkskin.

14 Ranger gives you access to the Freedom of Movement spell.

14 Ranger leaves room for 6 Fighter levels for Fighter Strength II and Weapon Focus/Specialization, leaving you with 2 Fighter Bonus feats.

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I'm waiting to see what the new Fighter Prestige Enhancements are before I roll up my Tempest Ranger/Fighter.

I have an 11 ranger 4 fighter 1 barbarian strength based halfling. I have a feeling this will also be a viable powergamish option some sort of tempest ranger/fighter in addition to the 6 ranger 14 barbarian, ranger with monk splash, and pure ranger, but who knows what the prestige enhancement requirements will be and what they will actually do. So it is kind of tough to advise somebody on something that nobody knows anything about. Go with ranger 6 barbarian 14 or 15 ranger 1 monk.

[Leyoni]

Two trains of thought here.

1) Ranger/monk mix for the AC. Tempest generally implies DEX for AC to overcome lack of shield. Combining it with monk WIS bonuses gives best possible AC. Additional splash of paladin is sometimes in the mix.

2) Ranger/barbarian for the rage. This means more focus on STR with minimal attention to AC -- settling for mid 40's before buffs, mid 50's after.

In the early and mid content the second build gets you by alright. After that it gets a bit trickier.

My main is a 500 HP barbarian/fighter/ranger that is sort of along the 2d build line. He is in great shape as long as there is someone else along to lead the charge or take aggro. But, he dies horribly if there is not.

I've been leaning more and more to building characters using the 1st approach. You'll still do great DPS but you will be able to survive as well.