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    Default how much reflex to make evasion worthwhile ?

    i have my pally to lvl 14. Thinking of taking 2 levles of rogue for evasion and an additional 17 skill points to top out diplo and umd. However, i dont know how high reflex save needs to be for evasion to actually be usefull.

    My pally has 25 base reflex at the moment .Is this high enough for my pally to roll a reflex save most of the time , for evasion to kick in ? Also, is reflex going to work against the blades at the shroud end boss , and will my pallys reflex be high enough.

    thanks in advance for the replies.
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    taking two rogue lvls would give you 3 more reflex as well (4 if the dex +1 enhancement helps you) so 28 reflex; and that'll have you taking no damage most of the time

    my cleric/monk self buffs up to 26 and I dont bother to cast fire resist/prot anymore simply b/c I'd rather take the chance of having to cast a heal rather than burn the sp; I know I've save on a 3 before while on Elite, but I couldnt tell you if I was standing next to a pally or not

    at 28 you'll save 95% of the time on normal, and with group buffs probably the same on elite as well (GH, inspire heroics, recitation)

    additionally have you done the resistance ritual on a ring/neck/bracer yet?
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    You should be fine, and it will be worthwhile...
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    Before you do this.. DOes you paly wear Light armor? If not, Evasion is Useless.

    (But yes, 25-30 Reflex is good)
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    Excellent point, easy to forget about that....
    More even because it is not in the feat's description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Before you do this.. DOes you paly wear Light armor? If not, Evasion is Useless.

    (But yes, 25-30 Reflex is good)
    Excellent point, easy to forget about that....
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    thank you for the replies, my pally is just wearing armour for the looks at the moment as hes 2handed weapon user.
    thank you for the info regarding reflex save and evasion.Im pretty sure that i wil be taking 2 levels of rogue now.
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    Have you thought of taking intimidate?

    It should be pretty good on your paladin, and you will have the skill points to do a decent amount with 2 rogue levels, and even higher with the next level cap.
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    You could also spash in monk for 2 levels. If you have good wisdom and dex you might have a better naked ac.

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    25 reflex is a reasonable minimum benchmark for reflex checks vs spells. For traps you typically want about a 35 or higher. At least these are the two numbers I use as a guide when making my builds. And no, you do not get reflex check/evasion versus the blades in the shroud.

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