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    Default THF, AC, Damage, Saves, UMD. Possible?

    So I'm wondering, is it actually possible to have a build (28pts or Drow) that allows me to run around with a 2 hander beating stuff up in a decent fashion, with nice saves, good AC and enough UMD to use all the fun stuff?

    I do apologise if this has been posted before, just reactivated my account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarnessaja View Post
    So I'm wondering, is it actually possible to have a build (28pts or Drow) that allows me to run around with a 2 hander beating stuff up in a decent fashion, with nice saves, good AC and enough UMD to use all the fun stuff?

    I do apologise if this has been posted before, just reactivated my account.
    thf - melee class with str, ftr or barb
    saves - pally or monk
    ac - dex based or wis based
    umd - rog or bard (at least 1 lvl)

    so you can see. its quite hard to do all you want but you can have twf, saves, ac and umd by making a twf ranger/monk/rog
    If you want to know why...

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    I thought that might be the case and I knew it'd include those classes most likely, but the problem is that I don't know the synergies well enough to try and build it myself without some outlines.

    I see all these builds on the forums and thought someone might be able to show me something similar, or tell me what feats and such I'll need and how many levels of each class I'd have to obtain to get them, etc.

    I understand it's a long shot, I'm not asking to be the best in those areas, just decently good.

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    Caala my Drow Paladin/Fighter can be a very effective Two-handed weapon user....with divine sacrifice and exalted smite even more so...Currently she is sitting at 36 umd.....and all her save are in the 30s unbufffed....Her base HP is 503 so shes also pretty durable.
    Not saying this type of build is for everybody(timing smites can be a pain if you aren't practiced)..but she is incredibly fun to play

    Hope I helped PM me if you are interested in details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asirin View Post
    Caala my Drow Paladin/Fighter can be a very effective Two-handed weapon user....with divine sacrifice and exalted smite even more so...Currently she is sitting at 36 umd.
    36 UMD with only paly/fighter levels... and no human versatility...how? Would be interested to know for my next build.
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    I've sent the PM!

    And yeah, I can't wait to see how you did this.

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    36 UMD Cross Classed?!

    Hmmm..

    UMD;

    9.5 Lvl
    9 28 Charisma?(Drow 18Base Perhaps?)
    5 Gloves
    6 Crafted
    2 Luck
    4 Gh
    2 Bard

    Total; 37.5? Give Or Take

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleTrueheart View Post
    36 UMD with only paly/fighter levels... and no human versatility...how? Would be interested to know for my next build.
    Sent you a PM also, mate.

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    you can actually do it with a number of different classes, you can even do it pure classed as a bard or a rogue. It really just comes down to planning and having the gear to get you where you need to be to be successful.
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    Would this be possible with a 11 paladin 2 fighter 3 rogue? Any builds out there that take this route and might be tweaked to using THF and such?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methodica View Post
    Would this be possible with a 11 paladin 2 fighter 3 rogue? Any builds out there that take this route and might be tweaked to using THF and such?
    30+ Umd is attainable without the levels of rogue...but like it was previously said you must plan WAY ahead and aquire certain raid loot.I went to 14 paladin for the Holy sword spell...and I'm pretty sure Ill finish her out as 18/2.
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    "So I'm wondering, is it actually possible to have a build (28pts or Drow) that allows me to run around with a 2 hander beating stuff up in a decent fashion, with nice saves, good AC and enough UMD to use all the fun stuff?"

    For a 2 hander, you want to focus on 4 feats - THF, ITHF, GTHF, and Power Attack

    For saves, you will want to double or triple class. All classes get the most in saves out of the first 2 levels (+3 to primary, 0 to secondary)

    For feats, all characters will get 6 feats by level 15. You can get 2 more by taking 2 monk levels or fighter levels (a nice bonus for relatively little investment).

    For UMD, you will want a bard or a rogue level.

    To cover all, Paladin-Monk-Rogue. I would take 13-2-1. This will give you 8 feats, evasion, UMD, and the rest is in your fighting ability.

    DROW

    STR 14 (6 pts) + 4 level + 2 tome + 6 item = 26
    DEX 16 (6 pts) + 2 tome + 6 item + 2 race = 26
    CON 12 (6 pts) + 2 tome + 6 item = 20
    WIS 13 (5 pts) + 2 tome + 6 item + 1 monk = 22
    INT 11 (1 pts) + 1 tome (use at L1) = 12
    CHR 14 (4 pts) + 3 tome + 3 paladin + 6 item = 26

    You can move stats around a bit. This is just to show the potential.

    AC
    10 base
    5 prot item
    8 AC bracers
    1 Alchemical
    8 dex
    6 wisdom
    4 Icy Raiments
    3 Chattering Ring
    4 Shroud Crafted Weapon
    3 Barkskin Potion
    4 Aura
    1 Centered (unless changed)
    ========
    57 AC

    +5 Combat Expertise
    +2 Ranger Barkskin
    +4 Bard Song
    +4 Shield Clickie or Wand

    Base Saves

    8 4 4 Paladin
    3 3 3 Monk
    0 2 0 Ranger
    --------
    11 9 7

    11 9 7 Base
    4 4 4 Aura
    8 5 6 Stats
    8 8 8 Paladin Chr Based Bonus
    5 5 5 Item
    --------
    36 31 30

    +4 4 4 Greater Heroism
    +? ? ? Bard Song
    +? ? ? Others

    For skills, take the rogue level 1st, and max out a bunch or skills, including UMD and Intimidate. I added intimidate because of the potential to be a very decent intimitank if you want to mix things up later on.

    Max out UMD, followed by whatever left for Intimidate as you level up. When the level cap goes up, take another rogue level to catch up, or substitute 1 paladin level for a rogue level before 16.
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