So What Does Yer Sorc Do?

[Beherit_Baphomar]

Mines is instakill spec'd I guess you could say. FoD and PK.
Hell, in The Vale and those quests I could finger almost anything, and what I couldnt
would be desintegrated. Hell, I even finger Running with the Devils on elite.

Now, new content...well...Orthons saves are rediculous...forget fingering them.
And Shroud runs, when they popped Id hold em...forget that too in new content...

So some respec'ing is in order.

CC?
Nuker?

Or are y'all not having any problems with the new content?

[Desteria]

Meh I've always goan fro midled of the road as far as spell selections and have a varity of Meta to let me nuke or CC or insta kill ... atm i dotn buff to much had to drop a few of the buffs for speles that helped in specific raids, (Acid fog insted of G-hero for a fog spell, Knock insted of blur for shroud runs etc.)


I use FoD/PK hightened with maxed cha where it's efficent

Hightened Web works well fro a bunhc of the new stuff...

Clearign in the suteratinion WoF/ Scorchign ray max/emp work well onskells and frost things

Web the beholders works well as does nukes

in hound i buff rage hast displacment and through up soem CC at the netrances Discoball/fog/web

Sulu i buff and CC .. and coc/instakill bats.

it doenst take mroe then a few key spells to beabel to do each roll well, maby not as well as some one totaly focused on that but beacuse you do mroe then that oen thing you often mroe of a benifit to the group.

[bobbryan2]

I'm in the same boat as you for the most part. I could nuke when need be, but I was first and foremost an insta-kill sorc.

I don't think there's all that much of a respec needed from going insta kill to CC, but I am switchin' out a few spells here and there. Recently picked up web, rage, etc. Things that help slow down devils and are a benefit to melees. I'm still planning on grabbing either acid fog or solid fog (just depends on whether I want to get rid of PK or Otilukes).

[KoboldKiller]

Mine no longer does anything as I deleted it due to being tired of hearing "haste".

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

Meleer. I'm doing just fine.

[MrCow]

Survivalist and solo-specialist sorcerer.

I quite enjoy meleeing when the opportunity presents itself as well.

[Pellegro]

I'm slowly transitioning into a buffbot/CC.

It really doesn't take away from my instakill ability. Its more about just switching spells, and being willing to spend >60% of my SP on buffs and fogs instead of FOD.

I don't mind either. Keeps it fresh. New spells, new strats, new approaches.

And when I wanna feel god-like again, I just go farm some funk.

[Venar]

ROFL.
Insta-kill spec.
Wow.

Look at me, i can use 2 spells!!

Dude, *** is an insta kill sorc spell, aside from a lazy sorc?
I'm a buff/cc/nuke/control/support/debuff sorc, and i bet i can use FoD and PK and banishement just as good as you.

As for your question... your friends in the raids are:

Ray of enfeeb, Ray of exhaust, Haste, Acid Fog, Polar Ray

[Atax]

Agreed with Venar. When I saw the saves in the Sub, I was laughing hard at all the people who were instakill specced.

My sorc nukes amazingly well, has CC to back it up, has decent instakill for situations (He doesn't do Running on elite, but he musters hard mode. And I dont have a problem with the new content.) and still has room for some good buffs. He's also a solo beast and outlives all other party members during the rare wipes. [WF]

The thing is.. spells in this game are situational. It's as simple as that. You're prepared for only one situation, and you fail at the rest.

How does your instakill deal with getting raped by 10 mobs with minimal CC and no AoE damage? Let alone stuff immune to death spells like raid mobs/red names/Tor/things with good saves

[MrWizard]

Mines is instakill spec'd I guess you could say. FoD and PK.
Hell, in The Vale and those quests I could finger almost anything, and what I couldnt
would be desintegrated. Hell, I even finger Running with the Devils on elite.

Now, new content...well...Orthons saves are rediculous...forget fingering them.
And Shroud runs, when they popped Id hold em...forget that too in new content...

So some respec'ing is in order.

CC?
Nuker?

Or are y'all not having any problems with the new content?

i just use fod as an insta kill.
if I have to enervate then fod.
lot of crowd control stuff from flesh to stone to charm and hypnotize.
for legacy I still use cloudkill/solid fog (lasts longer than acid fog and cloudkill does more damage if the mob takes con damage).

[Geonis]

So What Does Yer Sorc Do?

Whatever the hell he feels like!

Seriously. CC/Buffing (both spells, Blur and Resist)/nuke/instakill I do it all.

For the guy who deleted his character because he got tired of hearing "Haste", you just needed to train your party better, they can be "Haste"-broken like any good animal. Although I do throw Haste, it is when I want it, and anyone yelling for a Haste, gets left out till the next shrine.

[sirgog]

If you were instakill specced, I assume that means you have max possible Spell Penetration, Enlarge Spell, and one or both of Necromancy focus or Heighten Spell.

I'd suggest respeccing slightly - switch out Necromancy Focus if you have it (not particularly good anymore IMO), then pick up some crowd control spells. My favorites are Acid Fog and Symbol of Persuasion. Web is good if and only if you have Heighten, Discoball is good if and only if you have a low-latency connection (as the dang thing causes lag).

Then give some thought to taking the more powerful buff spells - IMO Resist Energy and Haste are the only two that are absolutely mandatory (by that I mean that any Sorc without them is hopelessly gimped), but Stoneskin, Protection from Energy, Blur, Displacement and Greater Heroism are all very strong choices.

Then finally, a couple of important situational spells to consider. If you are Warforged, you no doubt took Reconstruct as your first level 6 spell. If you are not WF, you might want to consider it too - you'll get into a lot more raid groups with it than without, as you can offer any group with one or more WF tanks something they generally want badly in raids - an additional healer. (Reconstruct scrolls barely cut it at endgame - tough foes can easily do more than 110 damage per 6 seconds). In addition, Reconstruct grants the WF recipient additional melee alacrity for 30 seconds, increasing DPS. Dimension Door and Waves of Exhaustion are also worth considering for these reasons - both are situationally very useful. Polar Ray is an important spell as it gives you some serious damage against foes with Evasion, such as Arraetrikos on hard/elite, and many fire elementals.

[MrCow]

Discoball is good if and only if you have a low-latency connection (as the dang thing causes lag).

It doesn't necessarily cause lag. What it does do is causes your computer to work harder due to the graphically heavy nature of the spell. I used to experience a slowdown after the 5th or so Otto's Sphere of Dancing in Reaver Raids until I got a new graphics card (I also used to experience slowdowns when things did the frozen ice death animation as well). With a system more capable of handling graphics I've yet to see any slowdowns that were attributed by an overzealous disco-loving arcane.

[Beherit_Baphomar]

ROFL.
Insta-kill spec.
Wow.

Look at me, i can use 2 spells!!

Dude, *** is an insta kill sorc spell, aside from a lazy sorc?
I'm a buff/cc/nuke/control/support/debuff sorc, and i bet i can use FoD and PK and banishement just as good as you.

As for your question... your friends in the raids are:

Ray of enfeeb, Ray of exhaust, Haste, Acid Fog, Polar Ray

Ok ROFL guy, let me answer you first.

I bet cha cant use FoD as good as me...beside's FoD and PK Ive GH, Blur, Displacement, DB, SF, haste (obviously), ray of enfeeblement, resist energy, polar ray, cone of cold hits for 800, scorching rays hit for 250x3, hold monster. My guys the buffer, the roamer and the CC in The Shroud...

I think the people that I run with know my sorc is no slacker.

The point of the OP, ROFL Guy, was that my spells dont land in new content. Hold monster dont land, FoD dont land and I dont
even attempt PK.

But thank you for the reply, ROFL Guy, your uberness has taught me a lesson.

[Beherit_Baphomar]

If you were instakill specced, I assume that means you have max possible Spell Penetration, Enlarge Spell, and one or both of Necromancy focus or Heighten Spell.

I'd suggest respeccing slightly - switch out Necromancy Focus if you have it (not particularly good anymore IMO), then pick up some crowd control spells. My favorites are Acid Fog and Symbol of Persuasion. Web is good if and only if you have Heighten, Discoball is good if and only if you have a low-latency connection (as the dang thing causes lag).

Then give some thought to taking the more powerful buff spells - IMO Resist Energy and Haste are the only two that are absolutely mandatory (by that I mean that any Sorc without them is hopelessly gimped), but Stoneskin, Protection from Energy, Blur, Displacement and Greater Heroism are all very strong choices.

Then finally, a couple of important situational spells to consider. If you are Warforged, you no doubt took Reconstruct as your first level 6 spell. If you are not WF, you might want to consider it too - you'll get into a lot more raid groups with it than without, as you can offer any group with one or more WF tanks something they generally want badly in raids - an additional healer. (). In addition, Reconstruct granReconstruct scrolls barely cut it at endgame - tough foes can easily do more than 110 damage per 6 secondsts the WF recipient additional melee alacrity for 30 seconds, increasing DPS. Dimension Door and Waves of Exhaustion are also worth considering for these reasons - both are situationally very useful. Polar Ray is an important spell as it gives you some serious damage against foes with Evasion, such as Arraetrikos on hard/elite, and many fire elementals.

Thank you Sir, very good reply.

No ROFL'ing in sight.

You've gave me a few ideas on spells to switch out.

[vainangel]

deals pain and death to all he encounters....

[no haste and only stoneskin as a buff...more room for killin spells]

[Venar]

Glad to make you laugh.
But really, it was kind of a sad thing to ask in the first place. If your such a hot sorc that "I bet cha cant use FoD as good as me...", i would hope that you could figure out how to help your party in the new content.

And a tip: the Devil raids lasts over 30 minutes, so SP concervation is good.

[Aspenor]

Asp has gone back to being a generalist type character. Web, dancing balls, solid fog....instakill when necessary and nuke where applicable...

[bobbryan2]

And a tip: the Devil raids lasts over 30 minutes, so SP concervation is good.

Maybe if you party wipe.

[Aspenor]

Maybe if you party wipe.

Or maybe if you do it on elite....