Power Critical

[artvan_delet]

I have a Level 16 paladin. I almost always use a bloodstone.
Is there any reason to have power critical if I am using a bloodstone? Not using a bloodstone? (Assume no other seeker item. Assume 30 str.) Anything I am not asking?

[Mhykke]

If you have a good str and a bloodstone, no need, imho.

[Angelus_dead]

Almost no DDO character should take Power Critical, ever. PnP D&D characters also should avoid that feat.

The possible exception would be some kind of low-strength TWF Fighter guy who depends on puncturing, banishing, and smiting weapons. It might be a reasonable choice, given that the fighter class already gives tons of extra feat slots.

But for a paladin, barb, or rogue: no, don't take Power Critical. That goes double if you use a Bloodstone.

[Shaamis]

when you have taken every other DPS enhancing feat possible, power critical would be last in that line.

if you have already taken all of the seeker enhancements (+8) bloodstone (+6) and Power critical (+4) you are looking at +20 to confirm a crit, almost a garuanteed confirmation (+16 is nice, but i'd guess at 80% chance to confirm vs. 90-95% with a +20)

It's a small benefit, but I took it on my dps khopesh ftr, so when STWF comes out, it'll be a quick switch to it.

[Dexxaan]

Sincer the OP's question is if HE should take Power Critical..... The answer is yes because that way you have a +12 to confirm crits.

Not uber..not bad.

Most Paladins can't Smite / Vorpal most mobs in shroud on hard and elite. And it stinks rolling a 20 and having them save because you failed a confirm crit roll.

My Cleric 11 Paladin 3 Fighter 2 has: 1 level Fighter Confirm Crit + Power Critical and he does well enough. If I'm in a Hard or Elite Mod 6 run (and I'm not playing Healbot of course) he uses Mentau's Goggles for another +4. (And yes they stack)

[elraido]

Sincer the OP's question is if HE should take Power Critical..... The answer is yes because that way you have a +12 to confirm crits.

Not uber..not bad.

Most Paladins can't Smite / Vorpal most mobs in shroud on hard and elite. And it stinks rolling a 20 and having them save because you failed a confirm crit roll.

My Cleric 11 Paladin 3 Fighter 2 has: 1 level Fighter Confirm Crit + Power Critical and he does well enough. If I'm in a Hard or Elite Mod 6 run (and I'm not playing Healbot of course) he uses Mentau's Goggles for another +4. (And yes they stack)

I just have a bloodstone and I don't have too many problems confirming the crit.

[Dexxaan]

Fact is a Paladin with just a Bloodstone is gonna have a greater Failure rate; this translates into potential problems when it's taking forever to roll a 20 (I assume you're not immune to that?) and when you finally do....the Mob saves vs your + (Insert Bonus here) to confirm.


It seems you are special.

Good for you.

[Dworkin_of_Amber]

My Holy Avenger (30 Str) carries Fighter's Critical Accuracy 1, no Bloodstone, no Power Critical, and I rarely have a problem confirming my crits. The only place I have seen my Vorpal NOT going off on almost every 20 is in the Shroud Elite. I think the problem is that since most Paladins are so feat-starved, Power Critical just seems really hard to justify over so many other feats that are useful more of the time. Even with extra Fighter Bonus Feats in a Multi-Classed build, I would rather take SF:UMD or Power Attack or Weapon Focus or Force of Personality over Power Critical. I'm not saying it's a bad feat, just a very very weak feat. I would think that a Bloodstone should be sufficient for most Paladins.

Now, as always, your mileage may vary, but I would have to have a REALLY good reason to take PC. For example, if you are running The Shroud Elite daily, and you find that you are rolling 20's and not confirming the Vorpal 50% or more of the time, then I could see trying it out, but it would take some really extreme circumstances to convince me that it is worth it.

[Yajerman01]

well i have a fighter so yeah i took it. Whty? cuz im specced out on all the enhancers i want and that this WAS the last feat descision on him. I dont have a bloodstone +6 on him and use the jerky for my trinket slot, so its +4 which is better then nothing at all.

[Dexxaan]

Unlike Raid-Loot which is easily obtained now, it falls into the hands of those who sometimes aren't even looking for one.

Also, if you don't have one by now, it's only going to get harder to get (unless you farm it yourself) since Desert runs are all but gone due to Mod 6 mania. Things will return to normal and you'll see more Q raids and such but overall Bloodstone and Blood Rage Symbiont (for example) are rare items indeed.


Bloodstone is nice IF you have it.... if you don't then PCritical is a good feat if you are a non fighter class.

[elraido]

Fact is a Paladin with just a Bloodstone is gonna have a greater Failure rate; this translates into potential problems when it's taking forever to roll a 20 (I assume you're not immune to that?) and when you finally do....the Mob saves vs your + (Insert Bonus here) to confirm.


It seems you are special.

Good for you.

What I don't understand is, if it is so hard to get a vorpal off why doesn't the group turn to DPS or Con damage item? And yes, it does seem like I never roll a 20 for even to get a chance for a vorpal....

[Dworkin_of_Amber]

What I don't understand is, if it is so hard to get a vorpal off why doesn't the group turn to DPS or Con damage item? And yes, it does seem like I never roll a 20 for even to get a chance for a vorpal....

That is a good point... even on High-End Elite stuff... Zero Con is still dead... and if you can't land your Vorpals, Wounding still works on most mobs... and it also makes the DPS count more, and saves on their Fortitude weaker... So don't discount whipping out an trusty-rusty Wounding weapon and going to town... it may take a while, but it still works... especially in large numbers!

[Hvymetal]

That is a good point... even on High-End Elite stuff... Zero Con is still dead... and if you can't land your Vorpals, Wounding still works on most mobs... and it also makes the DPS count more, and saves on their Fortitude weaker... So don't discount whipping out an trusty-rusty Wounding weapon and going to town... it may take a while, but it still works... especially in large numbers!

Not to mention most Rogue players (I know mine do) still keep wounders and other stat damagers around as it helps us not quite do as much damage so we drag off the aggro from everyone else, other people in the party will have em. (Hell, my WF Battlecleric carrys a wounding longsword of PG I still use a lot).

[Ciaran]

No - there better feats available to take to help your Paladin. MT or IMT, Toughness (another one), Cleave, etc, etc.

In fact, I'm about to drop it from my feat-heavy fighter. Thinking about picking up either another Toughness or Great Cleave. Not sure.