Permadeath Archer/Rogue (A build by Request)

[UtherSRG]

Barb doesn't offer much, you don't need WF: ranged, shot on the run is meh (to-hit isn't that important these days), you missed a feat at level 3 and you didn't include epic levels (21 -28)

Are Dodge or Mobility still worth having, or are they trashable as well? Looks like there aren't many feats I'd really want on this build. Toughness FTW....

[Pala-forged]

Are Dodge or Mobility still worth having, or are they trashable as well? Looks like there aren't many feats I'd really want on this build. Toughness FTW....

Uh.. they're okay, if you can't hit ~25% dodge without them. As for toughness, it's only worth it if you're getting epic toughness these days - without racial enhancements, it's meh.

[unbongwah]

Barb doesn't offer much

I disagree, it may not be the best / FotM splash, but it still offers +10% run speed, Rage, Frenzy, +3 Power Atk, etc.

I took a quick stab at updating the original build, although I went more melee-centric and included my favorite flavor option, Dragonmarks:

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Level 21 True Neutral Elf Female
(6 Barbarian \ 2 Rogue \ 12 Ranger \ 1 Epic) 
Hit Points: 303
Spell Points: 140 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 16
Will: 5

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 21)
Strength             16                    24
Dexterity            14                    16
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         12                    12
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              8                     8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow


Level 4 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons


Level 10 (Ranger)


Level 11 (Ranger)


Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 13 (Ranger)


Level 14 (Ranger)


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 16 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Barbarian)


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 19 (Barbarian)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Enchantment Lore (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Greater Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Feywild Tap (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Aerenal Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Skill (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Graceful Death (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Deflect Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Elaborate Parry (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Elaborate Parry (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Elaborate Parry (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Evasive Dance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Evasive Dance (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Evasive Dance (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Die Hard (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Frenzy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Rage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Rage (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Rage (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Power Rage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Weapon Bond (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Extend Rage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Extend Rage (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Extend Rage (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Furious Rage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical

Someone who didn't want the DMs could drop it & Extend to squeeze in, say, PBS & IC:Ranged. Quik+Emp Heal is mostly for Rejuv Cocoon.

[Pala-forged]

I disagree, it may not be the best / FotM splash, but it still offers +10% run speed, Rage, Frenzy, +3 Power Atk, etc.

Each to their own ^^ I normally don't rage on a barb, but I have buffs/scrolls I need to use to keep me alive. EE without hjealz scrolls/displace = no thanks.
As for run speed/power attack... monk splash+centered. Heh. Honestly though, it would work, I just feel not as well.

[UtherSRG]

I disagree, it may not be the best / FotM splash, but it still offers +10% run speed, Rage, Frenzy, +3 Power Atk, etc.

I took a quick stab at updating the original build, although I went more melee-centric and included my favorite flavor option, Dragonmarks...

Someone who didn't want the DMs could drop it & Extend to squeeze in, say, PBS & IC:Ranged. Quik+Emp Heal is mostly for Rejuv Cocoon.

Thanks! I worked out some of the kinks and pulled out all the Barbarian. (I'm not a fan... not that there's anything wrong.. just not my style.) In keeping with the original post, this is still only lvl 20, and no tomes. 32 pt build, 'cos it's available to me. 28 should start with the OP's stats. I pulled out several of my original Feats, took Toughness 3 times (gets the build up to the same base HP as the OP) and took Stealthy and Nimble Fingers, though I think the build does well on the trap monkey and sneak without it. As always, I look forward to critique and criticism. Next I'll update for Epic.

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Azyyaarog 
Level 20 Neutral Good Elf Female
(5 Rogue \ 15 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 301
Spell Points: 234 
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 18
Will: 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    16
Dexterity            14                    21
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence         14                    16
Wisdom               12                    12
Charisma             10                    10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    13
Bluff                 0                     0
Concentration         2                     2
Diplomacy             0                     0
Disable Device        6                    33
Haggle                0                     1
Heal                  1                     2
Hide                  6                    19
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  6                    15
Listen                4                    15
Move Silently         6                    17
Open Lock             6                    32
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                     6
Search                6                    38
Spellcraft            2                     3
Spot                  3                    11
Swim                  2                     5
Tumble                5                     8
Use Magic Device      4                    27

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Reptillian


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX


Level 5 (Rogue)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 7 (Ranger)


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 10 (Ranger)


Level 11 (Ranger)


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Nimble Fingers


Level 13 (Ranger)


Level 14 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Stealthy


Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Rogue)


Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Ranger)


Level 20 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Construct
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Keen Senses (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Keen Senses (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Elf - Keen Senses (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Elf - Arcanum (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Arbalester (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Skill Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Skill Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Skill Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Wracking Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Wracking Shot (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Use Magical Device (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Use Magical Device (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Use Magical Device (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Aligned Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Corrosive Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Flaming Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Shattermantle Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Terror Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Frost Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Banishing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Smiting Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Moonbow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Improved Elemental Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)

[UtherSRG]

I Have not the faintest clue what I'm doing in Epic... never had a character above lvl 17....

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Azyyaarog 
Level 28 Neutral Good Elf Female
(5 Rogue \ 15 Ranger \ 8 Epic) 
Hit Points: 421
Spell Points: 317 
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 20
Will: 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
Strength             14                    16
Dexterity            14                    25
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence         14                    16
Wisdom               12                    12
Charisma             10                    10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
Balance               6                    23
Bluff                 0                     8
Concentration         2                    10
Diplomacy             0                     8
Disable Device        6                    41
Haggle                0                     9
Heal                  1                    10
Hide                  6                    29
Intimidate            0                     8
Jump                  6                    23
Listen                4                    23
Move Silently         6                    27
Open Lock             6                    42
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                    14
Search                6                    46
Spellcraft            2                    11
Spot                  3                    19
Swim                  2                    13
Tumble                5                    18
Use Magic Device      4                    35

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Reptillian


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX


Level 5 (Rogue)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 7 (Ranger)


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 10 (Ranger)


Level 11 (Ranger)


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Nimble Fingers


Level 13 (Ranger)


Level 14 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Stealthy


Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Rogue)


Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Ranger)


Level 20 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Construct
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Elven Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Keen Senses (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Keen Senses (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Elf - Keen Senses (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Elf - Arcanum (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Elf - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Arbalester (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Skill Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Skill Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Skill Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Wracking Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Wracking Shot (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Use Magical Device (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Use Magical Device (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Use Magical Device (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Aligned Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Corrosive Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Flaming Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Shattermantle Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Terror Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Frost Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Banishing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Smiting Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Moonbow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Improved Elemental Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Great Dexterity


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Great Dexterity


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Doubleshot