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    Default A little advice please.

    Hello i recently made a barbarian and i'm just looking for some advice to improve my build. Here is what i have in mind.

    This is a 32 point build.

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    Barb 1.0 
    Level 14 Chaotic Good Dwarf Male
    (14 Barbarian) 
    Hit Points: 328
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 14\14\19\24
    Fortitude: 15
    Reflex: 3
    Will: 3
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 14)           (Level 14)
    Strength             18                 21                   21
    Dexterity             8                  8                    8
    Constitution         20                 20                   23
    Intelligence          8                  8                    8
    Wisdom                8                  8                    8
    Charisma              6                  6                    6
    
    Level 1 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    
    Level 3 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    Level 4 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    
    Level 6 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    Level 7 (Barbarian)
    
    Level 8 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    
    Level 12 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    Level 13 (Barbarian)
    
    Level 14 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower II
    Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
    Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness I
    Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness II
    Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness III
    Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness IV
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness IV
    No tomes. (Thinking about using +2 on Dexterity and Wisdom)
    +5 items for Constitution (36 raged) and Strength (34 raged).
    +6 item for Dexterity.
    Nightforge Darkhelm for Will Saves.

    Is thoughness a good feat or should i go with Power Attack?

    I wonder if this build works for end game content, specially with Gianthold Tor dragons norm/hard/elite.

    Thanks in advance for the help.
    Last edited by HeavenlyCloud; 08-18-2007 at 02:05 AM.

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    So basically you will have no reflex save or a very low will. You didn't even take dwarven spell defense. Seems like you are simply going for max HP. Personally I am not a fan of it. But with that said my barbarian is 16 16 16 8 16 6. And I don't have a problem hitting things or with HP. Also I am a fan of spring attack rather than grtr THF, but its play preference.
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    Two words for this build. Mana sponge. Toughness is highly wasteful on a barbarian.

    Swap toughness for power attack and toughness enhance for dwarvne spell resist and DR boost and you'll tank the dragons on elite no problem.

    Without power attack your DPS will be too low to keep up.
    Without DR boost or good saves youll be on your back or dead too soon.

    Why you don't need toughness:
    http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8...ot01530ku1.jpg
    (my build starts 16 con and no toughness and does not max the con enhancements)
    Last edited by Shade; 08-18-2007 at 02:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUpcott View Post
    So basically you will have no reflex save or a very low will. You didn't even take dwarven spell defense. Seems like you are simply going for max HP. Personally I am not a fan of it. But with that said my barbarian is 16 16 16 8 16 6. And I don't have a problem hitting things or with HP. Also I am a fan of spring attack rather than grtr THF, but its play preference.
    When it comes down to it tho it's your build and depends on your play style. So ultimately it's your choice.
    Reflex Save = 3 base + 2 Modifier (Dex item), +4 Greater Heroism +4 Resistance Item = 13 (17 with Uncanny Dodge).

    Will Save = 3 base +5 NiteForged Helm +0 Wisdom + 4 Indomitable Will, +2 Will Rage, +2 Rage Morale Bonuse +2 Dwarf Racial = 18

    Are this saves too low for end game content?

    If they are i might up de Wis and Dex a little bit. Thanks for the feedback.
    Last edited by HeavenlyCloud; 08-18-2007 at 02:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Two words for this build. Mana sponge. Toughness is highly wasteful on a barbarian.

    Swap toughness for power attack and toughness enhance for dwarvne spell resist and DR boost and you'll tank the dragons on elite no problem.

    Without power attack your DPS will be too low to keep up.
    Without DR boost or good saves youll be on your back or dead too soon.

    Why you don't need toughness:
    http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8...ot01530ku1.jpg
    (my build starts 16 con and no toughness and does not max the con enhancements)
    If i take Power Attack, should i take the enhancements? or they are kinda a waste of AP's that can be used somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenlyCloud View Post
    Reflex Save = 3 base + 2 Modifier (Dex item), +4 Greater Heroism +4 Resistance Item = 13 (17 with Uncanny Dodge).

    Will Save = 3 base +5 NiteForged Helm +0 Wisdom + 4 Indomitable Will, +2 Will Rage, +2 Rage Morale Bonuse +2 Dwarf Racial = 18

    Are this saves too low for end game content?

    If they are i might up de Wis and Dex a little bit. Thanks for the feedback.
    18
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    stats for a 32 point dwarf is a much better spread. you get way more bang for your buck on stat points.

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    Saves are a bit low yes.. Well basicly there as low as you can get on a barb due to your heavy min-max stats.

    Good numbers to shoot for saves are +25 buffed. +30 will get you making saves on rolls of all but 1.

    Yea you want the power attack enhancement, probably lvl2. Reserve lvl3 for until you get all the good raid gear and +2 tome or if you group with a bard often.

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    Thanks for the help. I will start thinking on new numbers for my barbarian and hopefully they will be better.

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    Barb 2.0

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    Barb 2.0 
    Level 14 Chaotic Good Dwarf Male
    (14 Barbarian) 
    Hit Points: 258
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 14\14\19\24
    Fortitude: 14
    Reflex: 6
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 14)           (Level 14)
    Strength             18                 21                   21
    Dexterity            14                 14                   14
    Constitution         16                 16                   20
    Intelligence          8                  8                    8
    Wisdom               12                 12                   12
    Charisma              6                  6                    6
    
    Level 1 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    
    Level 3 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    Level 4 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    
    Level 6 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    Level 7 (Barbarian)
    
    Level 8 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    
    Level 12 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    Level 13 (Barbarian)
    
    Level 14 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Reduction Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Reduction Boost II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Reduction Boost III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Reduction Boost IV
    Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower I
    Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
    Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
    Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
    Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
    I hope this barbarian is better than the other i posted.
    Last edited by HeavenlyCloud; 08-18-2007 at 12:56 PM.

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    The stats look better. Personally i'd go Cleave/Great Cleave instead of the THF line. you'll do more damage in a crowd spamming those and you get weapon effects on the cleave/great cleave hits that you don't get with THF glancing blows.

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