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    Quote Originally Posted by Castlehawk View Post
    I didnt say anything about supplimenting HF with bracers...I have these on all of my WF toons now ...ON TOP OF HF III

    No, you said:

    "Any WF melee type playing without HF3 is a liability and is IMO disrespectful of the people he/she pugs with"


    Again I ask, I have HF I, and the bracers. Does that mean I'm a liability?

    I'd submit that someone who wastes all the APs to go max on HF III in addition to wearing the bracers is hurting themselves in other ways (the sacrifice in APs just isn't worth it), maybe making them the liability in their groups.
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    You're not a liability, but you would be wise to buy HF 2. Its expensive, but the % of increase is worth it. HF 3's % is not worth the cost, but HF 2 is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orcbanian View Post
    You're not a liability, but you would be wise to buy HF 2. Its expensive, but the % of increase is worth it. HF 3's % is not worth the cost, but HF 2 is.
    Agreed
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    Quote Originally Posted by orcbanian View Post
    You're not a liability, but you would be wise to buy HF 2. Its expensive, but the % of increase is worth it. HF 3's % is not worth the cost, but HF 2 is.

    But the problem lies not just in how many APs you're spending on HF 2, but what you're giving up to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhykke View Post
    No, you said:

    "Any WF melee type playing without HF3 is a liability and is IMO disrespectful of the people he/she pugs with"


    Again I ask, I have HF I, and the bracers. Does that mean I'm a liability?

    I'd submit that someone who wastes all the APs to go max on HF III in addition to wearing the bracers is hurting themselves in other ways (the sacrifice in APs just isn't worth it), maybe making them the liability in their groups.

    Your being quite childish.... you know exactly what this conversation is all about.

    HFI + Bracers > HFIII

    My WF has HFIII + Bracers ..... and is by far not a liablity in any way....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castlehawk View Post
    Your being quite childish.... you know exactly what this conversation is all about.

    HFI + Bracers > HFIII

    My WF has HFIII + Bracers ..... and is by far not a liablity in any way....
    You surely could have been more specific like that at the first time.
    Don't expect others to fully understand you unless you provide enough description.
    Even I was shrugging on your use of the word 'any'.

    BTW personally I love a WF melee w/o any HF, when I'm on my WF sorcerer
    "He's mine! You clerics never ever touch him! lol"

    It is not wise to put everything in a single statement, because even on a PUG it is not hard to find a repairer at endgame.
    Of course the caster have to save SP for repairing, but again the cleric can cast more offencive spells at the same time by not having to heal a WF.

    I've been in a cleric, in a WF caster, in a WF melee, up to the endgame. And that's how I came up with this opinion:
    "HF is one of many choices. You can live w/o it with no problem if you're a smart player, and have good friends."

    And my personal choice on my WF melee is to get HF I. That's it.
    Other action points can go into MORE variable places.
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