Mirror of Glamering Issues Thread

UPDATE: The following changes were made after today's hotfix:

The following changes were made after today's hotfix:

• Corrected an issue that was causing some cosmetic armors to not display properly after being created with a Mirror of Glamering. NOTE: This fix is not able to be made retroactive, so players who have created a cosmetic armor with the Mirror of Glamering and are not satisfied with the resulting cosmetic should contact support either in-game or through support.turbine.com.

• Fixed an issue that could cause the absolute minimum level of an armor to be retained when making a cosmetic armor using the Mirror of Glamering. This will retroactively fix cosmetic armors with minimum levels.

UPDATE: The Mirror of Glamering is not working correctly with older randomly-generated armors. Please do not use the Mirror of Glamering on older randomly-generated armors while we work to fix this issue.

Hello! We are continuing to investigate various cosmetic issues with the armors and other items that are created using the Mirror of Glamering, and could use your assistance. If you made a cosmetic armor, helmet, or goggles, and the cosmetic does not look as expected, please use this thread to provide us with more information.

In particular, we need to know the full and complete name of the armor, and if possible, when the original armor was acquired (approximate year). Please tell us what is different about the cosmetic version of the armor as well.

Additionally, we'd love to see some screenshots! If you've got a screenshot of the original armor, and another of the cosmetic armor, it would be of assistance to us. Remember that to display an image on the forums you'll need to host the image somewhere else (social network, blog, web site, whatever) and then use the "picture frame" button in the New Post UI to copy in the link to the image.

Thanks! We have been reading your reports on this issue, but the posts have been posted all over the place, so we'd like to consolidate this feedback into one thread.

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~jjohnson/imag...nShot00040.jpg
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~jjohnson/imag...nShot00041.jpg

April 12, 2007 (give or take a few hours)
+5 Mithral Full Plate - Pulled from the Maze Chest in the Crucible

Has been used in crafting and is currently +4 Mithral Full plate

I'll post a screenshot of mine during lunch. But I picked up some leather armor a long while back (probably a year or so ago) and kept it because it looked good. When I used the mirror on it, it lost all the little "extra bits" and reverted to the default "textured wetsuit" look for that armor type. Very disappointing.

<edit> Okay, here are the pics of the armor. It's just some Spiritcraft Leather (specifically +2 Proof against Disease +10 Spiricraft Leather of Superior False Life), but looked good imo, so I kept it around.

Here's the armor:http://imgur.com/c2qSyOg
And here's the cosmetic armor it made from it: http://imgur.com/X2QC3Po

For some reason I can't get the site to actually just show the image in my post. Bleh.

So I have been waiting for the Mirror of Glammering or something like it for many years. There are some nice random skins in this game and I could never understand why they sold the ugly ones in the store instead of letting us access all the ones in the game already.

I have been saving this +5 Full Plate in the inventory of my main character for many years. I looted this back when Giant Caves was the loot run. Not sure of the date but this character was created during the headstart for people who preordered and I have kept this armor I would guess since the first year. It is plain but looks like real armor, kind of reminds me of the style in the movie Excalibur. I bought a mirror yesterday, very excited to use it on this armor:

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http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1.../DDO/Armor.jpg


But what came out is this:

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Tooltip of the armor in case that helps.
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It is not even just the first layer but something totally different.

I don't even want my TP back, I just would like some glimmer of hope that the mirror will work correctly in the future.



I posted the above in my own thread but reposted here to get them in the same place as Cordovan requested.

Now I see that Goldy and I both get the same result, so maybe it defaults to the ugly green armor skin with no second layer when it gets an error on the original skin?


Edit: used photobucket

Made a cosmetic copy of my Hide of the Goristro armor, which I looted about a month ago. The cosmetic has all the same textures and shoulders etc, but, all the colors were washed off and it is now just all brown. The shoulders, the cross strap and the belt should all be a blueish color. The shoulder to shoulder straps and the trim around the large shoulder should have a gold color, just brown now. The metal plate on the hip has a tarnished look on original, but is just plain silver on cosmetic.

Oddly enough I am finding that I like the more subdued colored version than the original, lol, but thought you would want to see the changes the mirror is losing.


Original Armor:
http://ddowiki.com/images/thumb/Hide...stro_shown.jpg

Cosmetic Duplicate using Mirror:
http://oi62.tinypic.com/eb3mns.jpg

I made a helmet.

The original helmet was random loot drop, that looks like a Samurai helmet. (I have since made it craft-able, and have no idea the original enchantments)(it is also old)

The original was dark blue in color.

The cosmetic glamered helmet is basically colorless (silverish). But otherwise seems to copy the features very well.


Annoying, since my Warforged wearing it is base blue color and I really want it to match. :(

We are working on fixes that will allow mirrors to copy over changes to armor color imparted by the random loot system.

Sev~

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...ps191f9219.jpg
+4 Mithral Deathblock, circa June 2010, Khyber Server

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...ps14930437.jpg
Post Glamering.
1st is more akin, but not identical to the Elf Craft Plate Armor style. 2nd, for some reason, is like the Starter plate or the Stonedust Plate, washed out.

Interesting, all 3 of us in this thread who had random loot gen heavy armor ended up with the same skin from the mirror.

Original Armor

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3929/...b4f9de93_o.jpg


Resultant Cosmetic Kit

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2943/...18e288b4_o.jpg




Original equipment properties

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2943/...a904a338_o.jpg

The mirror lets me copy this store armor:

http://i.imgur.com/AARslb1.jpg

but will not copy this older one that I have the unused set of:

http://i.imgur.com/2u2DxKr.jpg

My preference is the second version, which has cleaner lines.
Since it still works when I wear it, it should be possible to copy,
but I get an error message when I try to put it in the window.

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Interesting, all 3 of us in this thread who had random loot gen heavy armor ended up with the same skin from the mirror.

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I also believe they are older armour styles that were not incorporated in Lootgen post MotU, yet similar armours remain within named items.

Original Robe

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/...69856c45_o.jpg

Resultant Cosmetic Robe

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2949/...167f8e19_o.jpg

Original Robe Properties

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/...3ce4309f_o.jpg

That first robe is pretty sharp there, Claver. I can see why you would want to copy it.

Brand new character ran thru the Grotto to get an Initiates Docent to Glam, it will not let you use the Mirror on it get the no data found error.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Initiate%27s_Docent

Bought the Mirror on Thelanis on my alt Kaelaria. I used the mirror on a randomly generated +1 Retributive chainmail of Spell Resistance (15). This armor was generated prior to the armor changes that deleted the mithril property from random gen and gave us skirmisher/celestial/etc categories. (So after Cannith Crafting was implemented but pre-MOTU.) The item in question was not mithril or any other special material, only generated in the time period when that was available. The cosmetic item the mirror created from my armor looked nothing like it. Neither the upper nor the under texture of the cosmetic looked anything like my armor, and the colors were different as well. My armor was a shiny silver with violet bits, the cosmetic came out a dingy grey with brown pants. To give an almost example my item had the upper skin of the Splinterskull Chainmail, (as pictured on wiki) but in silver & violet, and the underskin from Stonedust Chain (as pictured on wiki), the cosmetic looked like the underskin of the Ironweave Tunic (also on wiki) without any overskin. (I'm giving textual examples because its been so long since i've used my imageshack account I don't remember the password and its not worth the effort to look for it, at the moment.)

My theory is that anything generated prior to the skirmisher/celestial/magecrafted armor changes will probably not work with the Mirror of Glammoring, more's the pity, because if I'm correct random generated Elven Chain, Darkleaf, and a number of other armors with unique and often very lovely appearances won't be seen again on the streets of Stormreach except in the odd crafter's hoard.

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Brand new character ran thru the Grotto to get an Initiates Docent to Glam, it will not let you use the Mirror on it get the no data found error.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Initiate%27s_Docent

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I believe its not supposed to work with docents yet, its in the realease notes for U23.

+5 Mithral Fullplate, acquired ca 2006-2007. Actual armor on the left, grey generic glamored armor on the right

https://db.tt/tObf8ejl

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Originally Posted by Palna

+5 Mithral Fullplate, acquired ca 2006-2007. Actual armor on the left, grey generic glamored armor on the right

https://db.tt/tObf8ejl

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I'm seeing a pattern here. It seems a lot of the armors are defaulting to the armor look on the right.

I see a lot of mithral here, but I think it's just because that was always some of the best looking random loot gen in the game. I think the common theme is the age of the armor. I have a set of really old mithral I was going to try, but I think I will hold off.

For all the heavy armors with Mikhail; since that material type isn't being generated anymore, the mirror is most likely skinning breastplate, which is the medium/heavy hybrid. I have a handful of them, and they all look like that (demonic breastplate).

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Originally Posted by Zzevel

Brand new character ran thru the Grotto to get an Initiates Docent to Glam, it will not let you use the Mirror on it get the no data found error.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Initiate%27s_Docent

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Docents are not currently able to be used with the Mirror of Glamering. We're expecting to bring in that functionality in a future game update.

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I'm seeing a pattern here. It seems a lot of the armors are defaulting to the armor look on the right.

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Indeed. As folks are seeing, there are some commonalities. This thread has been useful, please continue to let us know if you encounter an issue.

Cordovan and Severlin do you think a fix will be retroactive or should we get a refund on the mirrors we used and then buy a new one when the fix comes ?

Thanks.

I tried this on a simple leather armour with what is probably by now not unexpected results. The actual armour is viewed in the two left images, the cosmetic on the right.

http://s13.postimg.org/785hrjwpz/armour.jpg

Description:
Leather Armor (Light Armor)
Armor Bonus w/ Dex: +8
Armor Bonus: +2
Max Dex Bonus: 6 (Caps your Dex bonus to AC)
Spell Failure: 10%

This is one of the otherwise worthless armours you can sometimes pull from the chests in the sauna room of "Bring Me the Head of Ghola Fan". The approximate date I acquired this is 2:15 am EDT, 1 October 2014. I had been saving one of these for months for the time that this option would finally (hopefully) be made available, but I reran the quest to get a brand new piece in the hope that timing might make a difference.

(Edited for typos, and making final sentence less inflammatory. :) )

I bought 5, then 2 (~1850TP - Please give tips on how I can get more kits for free considering 4 are botched). I'll be mentioning this on DDOCast this weekend :)

Tried on Wondrous Celestial Scalemail mL27 - Note: I had more than 1 Celestial Scalemail in inventory, bought off AH - The armor kit produced the look of the wrong Celestial - I think "Oh well I guess I picked up the wrong one" - I tried another after clarifying yes THIS is the one that looks cool, put it in it's own inventory tab to make sure, copied, same look... "OK now something is up" - Tried something completely different, Celestial Leather, only the skin copied and not the addons.

*Sigh OK this just isn't reliable with random gen loot - looks like another year of power-rangers colors or smoky black on every 28 out there.

Time for named loot: Bloodplate, pretty standard, cool looking - Tried - and the Blood Red color is now washed out. *facepalm* - Still wearing it, bought rose hair color to match, it will work, but it's not what I wanted originally. Afraid to try the rest of my kits until this **** is fixed. Haven't tried helms, but will try tonight.

I copied this named robe tonight:

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Pall_of_Blood

The sash on the cosmetic is a pale light blue.

Cormyrian Green Dragonplate Armor

Crafted using Flawless Green Dragon Scales on the Eveningstar patron vendor Mikrom Sum. Some of the scales are ancient from when MotU first was released. I bought most of em a while ago but crafted the Armor a day ago.


http://i57.tinypic.com/1z34fpj.jpg


http://ddowiki.com/images/thumb/Corm...rmor_shown.jpg





And this is the mirror of glamering Cosmetic:

http://i62.tinypic.com/28l41w3.jpg

Its a shame that its bugged as its one of the most beautiful armors in the game.

Tried the mirror with +5 hide armor on my druid. Didn't get the nice colored hide...Got the dull green owlbear skin...not happy.
The hide armor is quite old....though I can't say with any certainty where or when it was acquired.

http://i.imgur.com/G9LtCZO.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5uR4jty.jpg

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Time for named loot: Bloodplate, pretty standard, cool looking - Tried - and the Blood Red color is now washed out.

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I tried with the Bloodplate Armour as well.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...G/BPArmour.pnghttp://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...our_mirror.png

Anyone try Frozen Plate?
I was thinking of farming for it because I like the look but if it doesn't work than not much point.

I'm copying over a post from the Lamannia forums, so folks can read this in the dev tracker, and because I've got an update:

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http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/...ps370fc6d1.jpg

Maybe test your miracles before you ask money for them. I just paid for a broken product, if I did it in a real shop I'd get my money back. Getting a bit fed up with bugs.

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It looks like there is an Armor Appearance Kit on the Cormyrian Red Dragonplate, which is what is preventing you from being able to use the Mirror of Glamering on it. You'll need to get an Armor Appearance Kit remover, if you want to Glamer the core look of the Dragonplate. It is not currently possible to make a cosmetic out of the old Armor Appearance Kits, sorry. I did check, though, and was able to make the Dragonplate on my admin:

https://www.ddo.com/sites/default/fi...yrianplate.jpg

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We have a coupon for folks who are in a similar position to Zoda. If you have an Armor Appearance Kit applied to your armor, you cannot currently make a cosmetic out of the armor using the Mirror of Glamering. Note that it is not currently possible to make a cosmetic out of an old Armor Appearance Kit; however, if you are instead looking to make a cosmetic out of the base armor that the kit was applied to, and are comfortable with permanently removing the Armor Appearance Kit from the armor, we have a free coupon for an Armor Appearance Remover Kit:

The coupon is SCRUB1. This coupon code can be used three times per account, and will get you a free Armor Appearance Remover Kit.

How does Turbine continue to sell this item in good conscience?

Is there a "refund me, it didn't work as promised" button somewhere?

Update: Account support contacted, they reviewed my recent purchases, I explained my situation, and my issue was resolved to my satisfaction.

I can not give details of my resolution, as per agreement, but suffice to say I am glad turbine account support is good, given the limited scope they can impact.

They also advised to avoid using the mirrors purchased until after a hotfix is applied.

I won't be purchasing another mirror until I know from other users that it works on old pre-Motu gear.

It appears that the basic armor cosmetic is being applied, without adding in the various "flair" that looks to be added to the original suit based on the specifically designed named item. Its unfortunate, because I'd have to assume that most people are glamering specific armor for the various bits of flair they like. I'm sure this issue will be addressed posthaste.

This is a brand new feature that worked perfectly on Lammania, so of course it will have some live bugs in the transition. This is the reason I held off on buying a couple mirrors until everything has been ironed out. Just be patient, people. Every single update has had issues, but the DDO team seems to be much more aware that their players drive the game now. You can file a claim to recoup your losses.

Honestly, I see glamered weapons and shields providing a much more difficult coding issue, especially with the frequency of switching weapon sets as opposed to armor. Not to mention builds that switch to different weapon types, like a SnB that equips a greatsword on occassion, or a greataxe kensei that goes SnB to pinch-tank. Be prepared for a couple bugs when that hits live.

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It appears that the basic armor cosmetic is being applied, without adding in the various "flair" that looks to be added to the original suit based on the specifically designed named item. Its unfortunate, because I'd have to assume that most people are glamering specific armor for the various bits of flair they like. I'm sure this issue will be addressed posthaste.

This is a brand new feature that worked perfectly on Lammania, so of course it will have some live bugs in the transition. This is the reason I held off on buying a couple mirrors until everything has been ironed out. Just be patient, people. Every single update has had issues, but the DDO team seems to be much more aware that their players drive the game now. You can file a claim to recoup your losses.

Honestly, I see glamered weapons and shields providing a much more difficult coding issue, especially with the frequency of switching weapon sets as opposed to armor. Not to mention builds that switch to different weapon types, like a SnB that equips a greatsword on occassion, or a greataxe kensei that goes SnB to pinch-tank. Be prepared for a couple bugs when that hits live.

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Yeah, on Lam I didn't see this problem. It looks like 2 things are happening (separate bugs):
1. If you Glammer something that is lootgen, you get a default armor skin (all those breastplates)
2. If you glammer something with a unique look (and thus a unique id for it to utilize), it gives a washed out version (or maybe missing some added components that aren't part of the base items look id/mapping).

I do encourage people who have used the mirrors to contact support and hold off on using them.

I'll admit. I am confused as to why the devs did not test the mirrors a bit more before the update. You'd think you'd test a new item on a wide variety of loot before releasing it to make sure it works. I know there are bugs to be expected with each update, but I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how an obvious one like this was missed.

The Mirror of Glamering should now be working correctly for all armors, helmets, and goggles. If you continue to experience a display issue with your cosmetic, please let us know in this thread. NOTE: This fix was not able to be made retroactive, so anyone who purchased a Mirror of Glamering and is not happy with the resulting cosmetic due to color or display issues should contact support either in-game or through support.turbine.com. Thanks!

Can we have cosmetic armor for druid wild shape someday?
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs36/f/20..._darkleone.jpg

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OMG, this is the best armor I have ever seen in DDO! I had completely forgotten that DDO once had armor this nice (a random +5 item...)!

Developers - can you PLEASE put this type of armor model back in the lootgen tables? PLEEEEEEASE?!

Still is not working correctly. I now have all the correct extra pieces, but I still have the same "starter/stonedust" base skin, and not the chain/plate hybrid.

First test after hotfix, 100% success. Colors retained, base skin retained, Extras the same.

To HAL, I believe that armor is still possible, look in the magecraft fullplates, (armor ML class determines the base skin and extras are random) Getting a desaturated metal color might be harder now that the kits don't strip the color out. Edit: Yeah it's definitely there, just buy a few "Battle" fullplates on the auction house, the "Battle" armortype (Items ML10 or under I believe) has the silver/steel base skin, once you get up into "Mountain" type, it turns yellow (This is where you can find a nice red/gold ironman suit :P)

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Still is not working correctly. I now have all the correct extra pieces, but I still have the same "starter/stonedust" base skin, and not the chain/plate hybrid.

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Original:
http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...pse68e6213.jpg
Copy:
http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1f7b5373.jpg

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Originally Posted by DougGlyndwyr

Original:
http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...pse68e6213.jpg
Copy:
http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1f7b5373.jpg

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Now I'm curious about something. Anyone remember how some armors used to have two different color schemes if you toggled the show "cosmetic armor" slot while it was empty? Do the armors that are still having issues have this feature? That could explain the color swap.

As a test maybe try removing your cosmetic armor and toggling the slot on and off to see if your appearance changes?

I have the same problem that DougGlyndwyr has.

I bought a new mirror today after the hotfix (right after my refund arrived for the one I bought Monday).

I used it on the same armor. The outer layer is correct but the "jumpsuit" is still wrong.

Picture shows it best:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...DDO/Mirror.jpg

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First test after hotfix, 100% success. Colors retained, base skin retained, Extras the same.

To HAL, I believe that armor is still possible, look in the magecraft fullplates, (armor ML class determines the base skin and extras are random) Getting a desaturated metal color might be harder now that the kits don't strip the color out. Edit: Yeah it's definitely there, just buy a few "Battle" fullplates on the auction house, the "Battle" armortype (Items ML10 or under I believe) has the silver/steel base skin, once you get up into "Mountain" type, it turns yellow (This is where you can find a nice red/gold ironman suit :P)

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Great - thanks for the tips :)

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If you made a cosmetic armor, helmet, or goggles, and the cosmetic does not look as expected, please use this thread to provide us with more information.

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I bought the item on DDO Store and created a copy of my "Captain's Chapeau" they are the same hat but the color of the feather changed colors from Forest Green to silver, or white-ish. The under cloth changed as well, same color change. This would have been ok if it was a black hat, but it is brown. Now to correct the problem I have to buy a black hat die at the store, which I really don't have the TP for. Is there a way to correct the hat to make it back to the original color, or at least to add a black dye to my inventory to correct the error? I am not sure how to send you a copy of the pictures, there doesn't seem to be an attachment link here. https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=DEF3E...EA8450D%212319 I don't know if you can get to the link or not.
Please let me know.
Ecclesiastes Seeker of the Just

Thanks for the reports. We'll be looking into it.

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I bought the item on DDO Store and created a copy of my "Captain's Chapeau" they are the same hat but the color of the feather changed colors from Forest Green to silver, or white-ish. The under cloth changed as well, same color change. This would have been ok if it was a black hat, but it is brown. Now to correct the problem I have to buy a black hat die at the store, which I really don't have the TP for. Is there a way to correct the hat to make it back to the original color, or at least to add a black dye to my inventory to correct the error? I am not sure how to send you a copy of the pictures, there doesn't seem to be an attachment link here. https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=DEF3E...EA8450D%212319 I don't know if you can get to the link or not.
Please let me know.
Ecclesiastes Seeker of the Just

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I'm a little confused with your statements but are you saying the mirror changed the color of your original item as well or just the cosmetic item? If your original item is fine and it is just the cosmetic item, contact a gm or account support and have them reimburse you for the purchase of the Mirror which did not work correctly, forget about a hat dye because that will not work on the cosmetic item only on the original Captain's Chapeau. If the Mirror changed the color not only of the cosmetic but also of your original item, Turbine has bigger problems, again you would need to contact account support for help to reimburse you for Mirror and to fix your original item.

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Docents are not currently able to be used with the Mirror of Glamering. We're expecting to bring in that functionality in a future game update..

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Originally Posted by Cordovan

The Mirror of Glamering should now be working correctly for all armors, helmets, and goggles. If you continue to experience a display issue with your cosmetic, please let us know in this thread. NOTE: This fix was not able to be made retroactive, so anyone who purchased a Mirror of Glamering and is not happy with the resulting cosmetic due to color or display issues should contact support either in-game or through support.turbine.com. Thanks!

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You say ALL armor should now be working... was this the patch that included Docents?

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~jjohnson/imag...nShot00043.jpg
Original Mithral Full Plate

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~jjohnson/imag...nShot00044.jpg
Mirror of Glamering Cosmetic

Notice the Underneath portion of the armor is incorrect.

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You say ALL armor should now be working... was this the patch that included Docents?

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No. Docents, along with weapons and shields, are features we expect to release in future game updates.

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http://www.tc.umn.edu/~jjohnson/imag...nShot00043.jpg
Original Mithral Full Plate

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~jjohnson/imag...nShot00044.jpg
Mirror of Glamering Cosmetic

Notice the Underneath portion of the armor is incorrect.

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You, sir, do have excellent taste in armour, however. :D

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Originally Posted by noneill

I have the same problem that DougGlyndwyr has.

I bought a new mirror today after the hotfix (right after my refund arrived for the one I bought Monday).

I used it on the same armor. The outer layer is correct but the "jumpsuit" is still wrong.

Picture shows it best:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...DDO/Mirror.jpg

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A couple of questions:

1. Has anyone had this happen to them on new randomly-generated armor?
2. For folks with the +5 Full Plate, does this armor have Adamantine on it by any chance (as a property, not added by the ritual?)
3. Has anyone had this experience after today's hotfix with named armors?

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Originally Posted by Cordovan

A couple of questions:

1. Has anyone had this happen to them on new randomly-generated armor?
2. For folks with the +5 Full Plate, does this armor have Adamantine on it by any chance (as a property, not added by the ritual?)
3. Has anyone had this experience after today's hotfix with named armors?

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The + Mithral Deathblock is an old one. Haven't tried new ones yet.
Mine has no addy put on it.
No problems before the update with Hero's or Leaves, had a problem with Murky and Lurky stealing the colours of my Elf Craft Plate f/ Gianthold before update.

Will try Shadowmail after errands.

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The + Mithral Deathblock is an old one. Haven't tried new ones yet.
Mine has no addy put on it.
No problems before the update with Hero's or Leaves, had a problem with Murky and Lurky stealing the colours of my Elf Craft Plate f/ Gianthold before update.

Will try Shadowmail after errands.

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Thanks. The coloring issue should be fixed after today's hotfix, along with the issue where some bits of armor weren't displaying (say, a backpack, or a pauldron.) We are still investigating the issue where the "base" armor changes its look entirely.

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Original Robe

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/...69856c45_o.jpg

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The 10/3/14 hotfix addressed the problem for the robe above. I was able to make an appropriate cosmetic version.

Armor still needs some work it seems (see below)

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Originally Posted by Claver

Original Armor

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3929/...b4f9de93_o.jpg

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As others have reported, the 10/3/14 hotfix only seems to be correcting the top layer of these armors. In my case the breastplate is now colored correctly and appropriately detailed as is the right shoulder (left side of the image)…..but everything from the ribcage down (torso and legs) plus the arms is still the same washed out look using the wrong model.

You are getting close Turbine.. Don't give up. We have so many cool old armors stock piled just for the mirror.

The +5 Legacy Hide Armor rendered far better but the underlying skin and color palette are still off.
The below photo illustrates the Original- the Mirrored copy before the Hotfix, and Mirrored copy after Hotfix.
Better...but still not the Unique look I am striving to acquire.



[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/GDeShoL.jpg[/IMG]

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Originally Posted by Cordovan

Thanks. The coloring issue should be fixed after today's hotfix, along with the issue where some bits of armor weren't displaying (say, a backpack, or a pauldron.) We are still investigating the issue where the "base" armor changes its look entirely.

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Suggestion: fire up lama-land (with hotfix applied, of course) so interested people can test everything they've got and give you far more reports far more easily.

Thanks again, everyone, for your reports and screenshots, it has been helpful. The Mirror of Glamering is not working correctly with older randomly-generated armors. Please do not use the Mirror of Glamering on older randomly-generated armors while we work to fix this issue. We've now added this to the Known Issues list. New armors (say, anything in the past year or two), and named armors, should not be experiencing any further issues after today's hotfix.

Shadowmail (EH24) glamer'd up just fine. Just fine.

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Originally Posted by Aelonwy

I'm a little confused with your statements but are you saying the mirror changed the color of your original item as well or just the cosmetic item? If your original item is fine and it is just the cosmetic item, contact a gm or account support and have them reimburse you for the purchase of the Mirror which did not work correctly, forget about a hat dye because that will not work on the cosmetic item only on the original Captain's Chapeau. If the Mirror changed the color not only of the cosmetic but also of your original item, Turbine has bigger problems, again you would need to contact account support for help to reimburse you for Mirror and to fix your original item.

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No just the cosmetic was altered. and I will take your suggestion and create a note to the account support, thanks.
Ecclesiastes

http://i.imgur.com/ZVHnm5K.png

Doh! I wish I'd seen this thread earlier. =/

The following changes were made after today's hotfix:

• Corrected an issue that was causing some cosmetic armors to not display properly after being created with a Mirror of Glamering. NOTE: This fix is not able to be made retroactive, so players who have created a cosmetic armor with the Mirror of Glamering and are not satisfied with the resulting cosmetic should contact support either in-game or through support.turbine.com.

• Fixed an issue that could cause the absolute minimum level of an armor to be retained when making a cosmetic armor using the Mirror of Glamering. This will retroactively fix cosmetic armors with minimum levels.

Hopefully more people than just me will be holding off on purchasing my (multiple) Mirrors until they work on older armor (as an incentive to get that to actually work).

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Originally Posted by HAL

Hopefully more people than just me will be holding off on purchasing my (multiple) Mirrors until they work on older armor (as an incentive to get that to actually work).

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I was going to try my old armor again, his post says they have corrected the glamer issues.

Cordovan, and the rest of the team:

Thank you for sticking with this. This morning, I successfully glamered the +4 Mithral Deathblock Armor I've been carrying, just for looks, for the last 4 years. It looks perfect as a cosmetic now. This showed to me what players and developers can do to fix problems in game when they work together and not get all snarky and what not. Your diligence and hard work is to be commended. Thank you very, very much.

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Originally Posted by noneill

I was going to try my old armor again, his post says they have corrected the glamer issues.

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The mirror worked perfectly for me after the first patch. No reason not to try, if you dont get a correct result put in a ticket and get your TP refunded.

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Originally Posted by DougGlyndwyr

Cordovan, and the rest of the team:

Thank you for sticking with this. This morning, I successfully glamered the +4 Mithral Deathblock Armor I've been carrying, just for looks, for the last 4 years. It looks perfect as a cosmetic now. This showed to me what players and developers can do to fix problems in game when they work together and not get all snarky and what not. Your diligence and hard work is to be commended. Thank you very, very much.

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Thank you, glad to hear it.

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Originally Posted by Dragavon

The mirror worked perfectly for me after the first patch. No reason not to try, if you dont get a correct result put in a ticket and get your TP refunded.

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I tried it after the first patch , it copied part of the skin but not all, see my picture above. My point was that Hal should try again, it should work now.

For myself, I will try again now that patch #2 is out.

Right now actually! I am just reading the forums while I wait for my client to patch.

WOOT!
After this patch the mirror worked perfectly , even on my old 2006ish armor!

This picture is pointless because it looks exactly like the actual armor but I posting it anyway in celebration.

Thanks for fixing this. I have kept this armor for about 8 years in the hopes you would invent this someday.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...rorworking.jpg

Glad to see that this last round of fixes seems to have made the Mirror of Glamer work even for finicky eight year old armors that have been kept and oiled over the years for this moment.

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Glad to see that this last round of fixes seems to have made the Mirror of Glamer work even for finicky eight year old armors that have been kept and oiled over the years for this moment.

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*Blows dust of some dented armor and adjust the mirror*

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Originally Posted by Vargouille

Glad to see that this last round of fixes seems to have made the Mirror of Glamer work even for finicky eight year old armors that have been kept and oiled over the years for this moment.

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I bought 4 mirrors and outfitted all my Paladin / Fighter heavy types.

Thanks again.

THANK YOU, devs! When I first created my FvS 3-4 years ago, I spent *hours* (and a ton of plat) hunting down suitable armor for crafting on, having decided early on that mithral plate would be a good base. Not just any armor would do; this was going to define how she'd look for a significant portion of her lifetime. Some had funny bits sticking out in odd places, some had garish color combos, some didn't really look all that protective at all - she's a melee FvS, standing in the front lines with swords in hand, not hanging back behind meatshields calling upon her deity to smite her foes for her. Even after I found a decent set to use in the interim, I kept looking - and paying exorbitant prices on the AH - for better, until I finally found some mithral armor that really looked good. And she was happy, and that armor was crafted and deconned and re-crafted umpteen times.

And then Leaves of the Forest came along, and while she looked good in it, it was never really her, but the armor itself was too good to ignore. And she learned to live with all the exposed skin, but she never really *liked* it. But none of the cosmetic kits in the store really screamed out "YES, this is the one!" Not like that old mithral plate she kept just to pull out and try on and sigh about every so often.

And now, at long last, she can wear her beloved mithral plate once more while retaining all the benefits of the Leaves! So thank you for making my girl happy! The glamered armor looks PERFECT.

Today I took the plunge. Spent about 3000 TP on mirrors to do up the 2-3 outfits each of my favorite characters kept around. Most worked out very well - all except some older outfits for my monks. The boots changed to sandals and the sleeve/midriff/pantleg lost all the orange accents from the 2 outfits I tried it with. Yes, I had it fail twice... after all the other successes I remembered another character had a similar outfit so tried again... both the outfits failed, with slightly different failed results (white/gray).


http://www.tevasama.com/DDO/images/outfit1before.jpghttp://www.tevasama.com/DDO/images/outfit1after.jpg
http://www.tevasama.com/DDO/images/outfit2before.jpghttp://www.tevasama.com/DDO/images/outfit2after.jpg

I may actually keep one of the failures, kinda like it. But neither truly worked accurately.

P.S. When one character pulled out their old gleaming golden mithral breastplate it had changed appearance while stowed in the TR cache. Was ugly gray sleeves and the arm/shoulder armor plates changed. Not sure if this was a related issue, but was very unhappy with that shock. Also several owlbear clad hide armors no longer looked anything like what they did when they went into storage; they now look like the leather armors you can pick up nowadays instead of the furry hide look they had.

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Originally Posted by Tevasama

Today I took the plunge. Spent about 3000 TP on mirrors to do up the 2-3 outfits each of my favorite characters kept around. Most worked out very well - all except some older outfits for my monks. The boots changed to sandals and the sleeve/midriff/pantleg lost all the orange accents from the 2 outfits I tried it with. Yes, I had it fail twice... after all the other successes I remembered another character had a similar outfit so tried again... both the outfits failed, with slightly different failed results (white/gray).


http://www.tevasama.com/DDO/images/outfit1before.jpghttp://www.tevasama.com/DDO/images/outfit1after.jpg
http://www.tevasama.com/DDO/images/outfit2before.jpghttp://www.tevasama.com/DDO/images/outfit2after.jpg

I may actually keep one of the failures, kinda like it. But neither truly worked accurately.

P.S. When one character pulled out their old gleaming golden mithral breastplate it had changed appearance while stowed in the TR cache. Was ugly gray sleeves and the arm/shoulder armor plates changed. Not sure if this was a related issue, but was very unhappy with that shock. Also several owlbear clad hide armors no longer looked anything like what they did when they went into storage; they now look like the leather armors you can pick up nowadays instead of the furry hide look they had.

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What specifically are these outfits? I'm assuming random generated outfits? We'll have to have a dev look into why these particular outfits didn't work.

Yes, they were random-generated, which I'd thought today's hotfix fixed. And most of them worked very nicely, but not these two. I tried mirrors on many robes and medium and light armors today (named and random), and these outfits were the only ones that messed up for me. As I've been thinking on it, I think actually at least one of those outfits I've had for about 3-4 years, so may actually have had that older look originally (as glamered). It would have been a part of the glitch where outfits vanished when worn and had to be returned later by you guys via the mail (and changed appearance at that time), whenever that was.

I just wanted to say I'm pleasantly surprised that this could be fixed at all for pre-MotU armors, and even more appreciative of how swiftly this was fixed. I bought a second mirror yesterday and it worked like a charm, I like this chainmail appearance so much I'm debating buying a second mirror for another alt. So kudos devs.

Next time I log in...


Ima buyin a mirror!

I don't understand why you didn't just open up all of the various armor visuals and let us customize our own suits.

There is CLEARLY a very strong desire for this level of customization. It's something basic about creating avatars to play with, that has roots going all the way back to cut-out paper dolls.

Ultima Online, the very first MMO, had a crafting system that let you dye your armor and clothing pieces to customize your look. A game as advanced as DDO should easily have an engine for that sort of customization.

I was able to successfully create a deathnip cosmetic item, but I cannot apply the weapon aura to it. I tried the enhanced fire and shadow.. when I tried to apply it says I applied the no effect aura (while I am sure I had the desired aura selected.. tried it a few times.. no good).

I glamered a Madstone Rod yesterday and to my disappointment the glamered version lost the size of the original one.
Now I have a mini version of it :(

http://ddowiki.com/page/Madstone_Rod

Aww, madstone would have been a good pick too... I tried deathnip also, lost an aura which brought me here.

Thought I'd mention my other fails, while they didn't work, Auras and Orb/Shield did allow me to expend an Aura glamer (Tried it to see what would work, since these don't have sprite/effect hooks I wasn't expecting much).

Chaos looks very good on a twinblade (rediculous but in a good way)

Edit: Just tried poison on a Belashyrra's Cleansed Scepter cosmetic , while it doesn't have a "skin" animation, the sprite effects still worked, so it has the mist and the drips from Poison. Gross, and I think I like it better, it's subtle and more gross.

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Aww, madstone would have been a good pick too... I tried deathnip also, lost an aura which brought me here.

Thought I'd mention my other fails, while they didn't work, Auras and Orb/Shield did allow me to expend an Aura glamer (Tried it to see what would work, since these don't have sprite/effect hooks I wasn't expecting much).

Chaos looks very good on a twinblade (rediculous but in a good way)

Edit: Just tried poison on a Belashyrra's Cleansed Scepter cosmetic , while it doesn't have a "skin" animation, the sprite effects still worked, so it has the mist and the drips from Poison. Gross, and I think I like it better, it's subtle and more gross.

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So did anything happen with an Orb? Orb's mostly look bad (in fairness that's more about the hand position than the orb's) I was hoping to make a madstone skull with the new version of Fire. while using Adaxus also with the new version of fire.

I would really love to see the ability to make a shield or Orb look like the other... Also I would like to see Orb's be able to be glamerded into a off hand weapon... even if they restricted this to light weapons... An Orb that looks like a dagger held in the downward stabbing orientation would look awesome (there are monster casters who have this look)

I think that scepter and madstone rod can be had as a randgen rod/scepter which are smaller (normal sized). The size not being captured is curious... it makes me wonder if Earthshatter Warhammer will retain it's unusually large size as a cosmetic?

Seems like Orb's and those Rod's and Deathnip at least need some special case attention... I don't want to waste TP's finding out I can't make an Orb or Deathnip fiery...

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I don't understand why you didn't just open up all of the various armor visuals and let us customize our own suits.

There is CLEARLY a very strong desire for this level of customization. It's something basic about creating avatars to play with, that has roots going all the way back to cut-out paper dolls.

Ultima Online, the very first MMO, had a crafting system that let you dye your armor and clothing pieces to customize your look. A game as advanced as DDO should easily have an engine for that sort of customization.

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because of their already horrible track record of handling data bases?
lost skill/stat tomes, missing gear after tr-ing, duping, inventory issues, cluttered ingredients/collectebles etc

Ran Relic of Sovereign Past, thought Teyseus, longsword at end of quest, looked cool so bought a mirror, used mirror, made a cosmetic of Teyseus, left the quest and my cosmetic disappeared. I knew the sword dropped at end of quest but why the cosmetic? Put in a ticket, played 3 more hours did not get a response. Logged in yesterday and DM said ticket was closed because I was not online when they responded. Should I resubmit ticket?

thank you,

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Ran Relic of Sovereign Past, thought Teyseus, longsword at end of quest, looked cool so bought a mirror, used mirror, made a cosmetic of Teyseus, left the quest and my cosmetic disappeared. I knew the sword dropped at end of quest but why the cosmetic? Put in a ticket, played 3 more hours did not get a response. Logged in yesterday and DM said ticket was closed because I was not online when they responded. Should I resubmit ticket?

thank you,

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Did the blade keep its original color? I tried it on Lam tonight and the blade lost its dark color?

The armor glamored effect that is broken for me is Shadowscale Outfit. From the Draco Lich raid in Thunderholm. I first made my glamar around 2018-19. I made another this year thinking the problem had been fixed. It now shows a gray and black caster robe. The same gray and black robe shows for both of my glamars of the same Shadowscale outfit. Hope this helps in further narrowing down the cause.

Hantu

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The armor glamored effect that is broken for me is Shadowscale Outfit. From the Draco Lich raid in Thunderholm. I first made my glamar around 2018-19. I made another this year thinking the problem had been fixed. It now shows a gray and black caster robe. The same gray and black robe shows for both of my glamars of the same Shadowscale outfit. Hope this helps in further narrowing down the cause.

Hantu

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Should have started a new thread instead of necro-ing a 6.5+ year old thread.

Yep Shadow dragon armor cosmetics still broken. Created the light armor version the other day and tried to make a cosmetic - no aura. I kind of like having a no aura cosmetic though. I'm using the dragon armor but have the cosmetic on to suppress the glow.

https://www.ddo.com/en/update-502-release-notes

They fixed the Shadowscale Outfit in 50.2, but you have to make a NEW glamoring of it. Toss your old one and make a new one. Steelstar said you could petition for a replacement mirror so you don't have to spend anything if you want. I had some so just used one and re-made it. It totally worked.

This was the thread that talked about it and Steelstar's reply: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...52#post6454752

I just made (this week) a new glamouring of Shadow Dragonhide Armor (shadow dragon raid light armor) and it was missing the aura.