Most useless class in DDO?

Theirs no weakest class.

Just badly played and equipped Toons

You could argue theirs a most powerful class Atm.

Whats even stranger is most peoples choice of the weakest class today was undoubtedly the most powerful when i joined the game 3 years ago

Sadly this discussion leads to more Bigotry

Honestly their are fantastic toons of all the classes running about in DDO

I always accept the first lot unless we require a specific such as a healer etc.

Apart from the toughest Epics (DQ1/Wiz/Chains and then i am picky)

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Originally Posted by Vellrad

Takes of beards of dwarf women are made up by jealous elves, who aren't masculine enough to grow their own, and who got many other flaws. Theese rumors are repeated over and over by elven probaganda machines.
The truth is, dwarven women are mostly securely kept in dwarven cities, because all other races are not worth of seeing dwarven ladies.

PS: nie mów źle o krasnalach, bo wiem gdzie mieszkasz ^^

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But i saw this beard with my eyes :p
And elves rock. At least female elves ^^
Dwarfs are just jealous elves are higher than their width ;)

Ps. Nie odpisze na czarno z telefonu.
Ale ja też wiem gdzie mieszkasz xD. A winne są nadal brokuly.

Anything that is not an Artificer.... :(

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Originally Posted by Kayla93

But i saw this beard with my eyes :p
And elves rock. At least female elves ^^
Dwarfs are just jealous elves are higher than their width ;)

Ps. Nie odpisze na czarno z telefonu.
Ale ja też wiem gdzie mieszkasz xD. A winne są nadal brokuly.

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1. You saw only fat gnome female with fake beard. Or maybe real beard, IDK, gnomes are not humanoids, but aberrations.
2. Broccoli is good.
3. Elves whine because they're to fragile, halfings whine becasue they're to small, humans whine because they're to high. Dwarves are in sweet spot. And in world where most adventurers are human female, having eyes just at exact height is very important.

I just saw the most useless class a couple days ago. I believe it was a wizard that in fact was a melee, that got it in his head that zombie form would make him immortal so he flipped con the bird and had I believe 67 hp at around lv 7 buffed.

I think he came from wow so that might explain a few things. And I gotta give the leader credit he didn't boot em right off the bat. The guy eventually rage quit after the undead beat his ass all around that dungeon.

Lesson learned, unlike popular belief, pale masters are not god mode. Pale masters are not easy street. Pale masters are not some kind of undead battle hardened melee. Pale masters are something that pays off near end game.

I think that's gotta be the 10th or so idiot ive seen trying to make some kind of undead melee only to get pimp slapped and take up a slot a hireling could fill 40 times better. Something must be in the water in khyber. Melting peoples brains.

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Originally Posted by Memnir

The last one to apply to the LFM.

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This about sums it up for me. Nothing further to add.:D

Ranger. The best ones are behind all other DPS classes. The new/silly ones deal close to 0 damage plinking a raid boss with a bow. The truly terrible ones try to manyshot horoth, have him turn around and kill the 4 or 5 squishier melees that were behind him.

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Originally Posted by Vellrad

1. You saw only fat gnome female with fake beard. Or maybe real beard, IDK, gnomes are not humanoids, but aberrations.
2. Broccoli is good.
3. Elves whine because they're to fragile, halfings whine becasue they're to small, humans whine because they're to high. Dwarves are in sweet spot. And in world where most adventurers are human female, having eyes just at exact height is very important.

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Okey.
1 maybe but im still sure it was dwarf female ;p
2. I knew dwarfs actually eat it! ;)
3. To all whines u should add: dwarfs whines all other races have muscles and they have fat.^^
As about eyes in good height ... as im woman i wont comment that but i guess for men its good argument xD
And small halflings are great! Still i prefer elves.

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Originally Posted by goodspeed

I just saw the most useless class a couple days ago. I believe it was a wizard that in fact was a melee, that got it in his head that zombie form would make him immortal so he flipped con the bird and had I believe 67 hp at around lv 7 buffed.

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When you flip off the Con bird, it has a tendency to dump all over you.

I am fairly new to DDO, but I have been playing D&D for a long time. I find it interesting that everybody hates on the ranger. I made one and have him set up as a melee dps, I’m level 6 and have a 24 dex and an 18 str. I use weapon finesse to give me an incredible hit rate with my rapier/short sword and any other light weapon set I have and lets me hit with my bows ( mostly to draw, not kite). Is this not how to build a ranger? I’m looking for advice more than anything, but my toon so far, has been useful in groups and has no problem doing many quest solo.

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Originally Posted by Boredamerican

Is this not how to build a ranger?

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Apparently not.
Higher level quests are a different beast altogether.
Update 5 impacted rangers considerably, toning their dual wielding down making a shallower Ranger splash less desirable.

With higher dex than str, you'll find yourself struggling for raw damage: it's relatively easy to reach high attack rate, so you'll land your blows eventually through strike saturation.
Problem is, if the blows themselves are weak, they'll struggle to leave a dent, especially vs high-DR targets.

A dex rogue can make do with sneak-dmg.
Higher hit ratio compensates lower base dmg vs sneak-vulnerable foes.
A dex ranger can only do so much, and would benefit from dmg enhancing feats/effects.
Power Attack works well.
Using a two-handed weapons vs some foes works too.
My very first char was a dex ranger; I've eventually learnt to carry an adamantine maul to use vs golems and he's been much better off.

The usual advice here is: ranger gets dual wielding feats free - regardless of natural dex.
This means they can make do with only dex 13, to qualify for Dodge and Tempest eventually.
Non rangers need dex 15 to dual wield, and eventually 17 for the full line, and still have a lower off-hand proc - a DDO-specific mechanic - from not being Tempests.

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Originally Posted by Boredamerican

I am fairly new to DDO, but I have been playing D&D for a long time. I find it interesting that everybody hates on the ranger. I made one and have him set up as a melee dps, I’m level 6 and have a 24 dex and an 18 str. I use weapon finesse to give me an incredible hit rate with my rapier/short sword and any other light weapon set I have and lets me hit with my bows ( mostly to draw, not kite). Is this not how to build a ranger? I’m looking for advice more than anything, but my toon so far, has been useful in groups and has no problem doing many quest solo.

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With that, what is your con? :p (I jest)

Personally I'd say that rangers might be the "most worthless", or the "worst", but that doesn't mean that they are BAD.
Their problem is that they are generalists. They do good damage, can heal in a pinch and have good spells. They also get many of their main feats for free, setting them up to be both melee and great range attackers.

Thier problem is that everything they do can be done better by other classes, even if the other classes might lack something that the ranger has. Want range power? Arcane Caster. Heals? Divine Caster. Melee monster? Any other sort of melee class.
Also, rangers doesn't really bring anything "new" like bards, the other "generalist class", brings.

A well played ranger can be an asset. But they can only really do one thing at a time, which means that they'll often be outclassed by other dudes.

They do however make good solo characters, due to range kiting (not that great in a party :p), self healing, and an ability to amp up the damage by swaping to 2wf.
Do I personally deny rangers? No, not at all, but I seldom deny anything at all.

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Originally Posted by krackythehoodedone

Theirs no weakest class.

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If there are three apples in a basket, each picked from a different tree. They all can taste good but I am sure you can say one of them is better than others and one of them is not as good as others.

People can have different taste and we cannot argue much about that. But here in DDO we can start number crunching and define which class is better or worse than the others in the hands of equally skilled players.

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Originally Posted by Bodic

Its the PLAYER not the CLASS.

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No, thank you. I am not accepting you in my group with that 5 fighter 5 cleric 5 wizard 5 rogue build.

But i'm sure you are an amazing player, sure! :D

And, seriously, i tend to avoid monks and rangers.

Monks cause they have abundant steps, renamed zerger's step for my bad experience with people playing them...

Rangers cause i always seem to meet weak build with that class; no dps, low hp, not really useful in a group. Except when they got a rogue splash they are good trapkillers to be honest.

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Originally Posted by krackythehoodedone

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Apart from the toughest Epics (DQ1/Wiz/Chains and then i am picky)

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But you would still take a ranger on those wouldnt you?

Paladins. Not my own opinion, but the (anecdotal) evidence is:

1) It's the class I see least of in game
2) No threads about "OP paladins"
3) No threads demanding to "boost paladins" - nobody even cares
4) Turtle tanking is history

Rangers come in close 2nd.

Oh Dear.

I am saddenned by the bigotry and lack of knowledge displayed in some of these replies.

I don't play a Ranger,but theirs no reason for so much mistrust

Their are some fantastic Rangers out their

And some not so fantastic, but that goes for all classes.

As for Monks, well you are entitled to your opinions. The good ones are awesome

To Natural Hazard. In hard Epics i look for experienced well equipped characters/players.

Rangers are as welcome as any other.

Not Class specific at all. Apart from maybe Melee/Caster/Heals.

If i have a good group i deliberately leave a spot for a newer player if i can find one

I am lucky in that i know most on my server. I tend to get the ''usual suspects'' every time

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Originally Posted by Phemt81

No, thank you. I am not accepting you in my group with that 5 fighter 5 cleric 5 wizard 5 rogue build.

But i'm sure you are an amazing player, sure! :D

And, seriously, i tend to avoid monks and rangers.

Monks cause they have abundant steps, renamed zerger's step for my bad experience with people playing them...

Rangers cause i always seem to meet weak build with that class; no dps, low hp, not really useful in a group. Except when they got a rogue splash they are good trapkillers to be honest.

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Great , I got neg rep for making this thread... some people are just ridiculous ....

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Originally Posted by gavijal

Great , I got neg rep for making this thread... some people are just ridiculous ....

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Of course you did. Your thread is about trolling, it's very evident by the wording "Most Usless Class in DDO". You didn't ask "Which class do you dislike" or "Which class is most often the worst played" or anything like that... so of course your going to get Neg'd for it. Doesn't take a psychic to see that coming.

And no it wasn't me... I don't waste my time on that stuff (to the point I don't even know if I can).