Eliminate Ship Buffs!!!

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03-28-2014, 03:06 AM
relenttless

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Originally Posted by UurlockYgmeov

oh snap! Teh_Troll and I agree on a second point? I Swear, 'they are coming to get me uha, uha'

I know, I'm deeply woried too..... Thats about the fourth time in a week I've agreed with him.
03-28-2014, 03:31 AM
Feralthyrtiaq

Crabs in the bucket eh?

Your poorly penned rant screams of jealousy for those who have worked for this perk in game.

I agree they do provide a huge benefit at low levels. However, at this stage in the game they are completely unnecesary even at level one.

They are not a crutch and for you to come on this forum and insult players who have worked for them is no fair and is indicative of an immature mind caught up in jealousy and unwillingly to work for the benefit yourself.

At level 1 ship buffs with 30 resist, and +2 stat is essentially no different for an experienced/veteran player who stocks +4 stat potions and 10 resist pots.

Your argument is so full of holes I could strain spaghetti in it. It is ONLY your opinion and you are doing yourself no favors by thinking this way.

Go argue about haste potions at level one being OP or some other non-sense and stop insulting others.

Very poor form but typical....so....elfing....typical...
03-28-2014, 03:44 AM
bartharok

I started my own one man guild some time ago, and found that i rarely need the buffs. Actually i rarely bother to go get them. Why? BEcause not having them for a while made me relearn how to avoid elemental damage, and the rest are just perks. If somebody wants/needs them, thats just fine. Why get upset at losing 2-3 mins of questing every now and then. I can just sell nd repair, or go for a quick smoke while they buff.
03-28-2014, 03:56 AM
Micron

Indeed, people have forgotten how unfun it was to have to give resists to everyone, not just at the beginning of the quest but after every shrine, too. It could be time-consuming too, particularly in raid groups, and it was a mana sink for casters.

The energy resistance shrines should probably stack like the spell does... If a brand new player joins a big guild and the 30 resists make a part of the low level content (caster mobs and some traps) trivial to him, it's not a good thing. But no way the ship buffs should be removed.

For many guilds acquiring new ship buffs was a source of motivation. I remember how my guildies and I were chuffed with every new buff we got on the ship as we progressed through the levels and the collective effort certainly strengthened the team spirit in the guild.
03-28-2014, 04:07 AM
Powskier

same players who need ship buff ,prob need Viagra too;)

dont you all feel stupid, runnin circles aroud the overly complicated floorplans? Then ,I always laugh , as players die and lose their'' hard earned'' buffs anyway. this is such an easy troll,awsome response allready; thx softies.
03-28-2014, 04:26 AM
Deadlock

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Originally Posted by jimcricket

Also what about new players/guilds having to cope with no 30% resists at low level when the game has now changed to expect you to have them.

Remind me which low level quests have been changed since airships were introduced?

I'm guessing since the OP claims this thread is just one big troll that the whole thing should be cubed.
03-28-2014, 04:56 AM
Algreg

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Originally Posted by Powskier

so Easy for the masses...

oh look, it is the olympian elite taking time to talk to us mere mortals.
03-28-2014, 04:58 AM
thakorian

Before ya know we'll start seeing "no invulnerability armor"-lfms for waterworks too I bet.

I personally like ship buffs. It gives puggers more incentive not to die in quests.
03-28-2014, 05:17 AM
Emizand

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Originally Posted by HAL

I don't understand why you guys want to dictate how everyone else plays? If you think ship buffs make quests too easy, by all means don't use them. But stop trying to play Mommy to everyone else. We can decide what we want to use or not for ourselves.

Enough said!
03-28-2014, 06:25 AM
edgarallanpoe

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Originally Posted by BoBoDaClown

People who argue 'don't like them, don't use them', forget this is a multi-player game (or used to be) and that we don't play in isolation.

And how does having another player using ship buffs have any impact on you?
03-28-2014, 08:15 AM
Algreg

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Originally Posted by Powskier

dont you all feel stupid, runnin circles aroud the overly complicated floorplans? Then ,I always laugh , as players die and lose their'' hard earned'' buffs anyway. this is such an easy troll,awsome response allready; thx softies.

cool, an internet personality defining values of "manliness" through criteria of a computer game. For your sake one can only hope you are a teenager as that implies the complete lack of concepts of adulthood.
03-28-2014, 09:01 AM
Holleyz

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Originally Posted by Powskier

dont you all feel stupid, runnin circles aroud the overly complicated floorplans? Then ,I always laugh , as players die and lose their'' hard earned'' buffs anyway. this is such an easy troll,awsome response allready; thx softies.

I bet I can create a bard and not equip any gear but the starter weapon and run circles around you in a quest. Whats the characters name? what server? I'll come to your home world and show you.
03-28-2014, 09:42 AM
Fhauvial

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Originally Posted by BoBoDaClown

People who argue 'don't like them, don't use them', forget this is a multi-player game (or used to be) and that we don't play in isolation.

How? I'm one of those people who doesn't use them. I was in a high-level (capped) guild and always used them, until I left to start my own. It was the best thing that ever happened to me. You don't realize how much you don't need ship buffs until you don't have them.

Getting rid of ship buffs isn't the solution.
03-28-2014, 10:31 AM
Icywave

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Originally Posted by Teh_Troll

Oh who friggin cares. With all the things broken with DDO worrying about how this break low-level play isn't even in the top 50 list of things that should be addressed.

Seriously . . . who cares?

Agreed it is at the bottom of the list.

I'd be happy with even less than 50 things fixed. At current rate, fixing your top 50.. may be take... well, will never happen :)
03-28-2014, 10:35 AM
Icywave

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Originally Posted by axel15810

For me this is a social, multiplayer game. If I wanted to solo I'd play a different game, because there are way better solo games out there. Starting the quest without at least a few people in quest with me defeats the purpose of me playing DDO.

When you're on a server as dead as Orien... you may consider starting it anyways, or get ready to stare at the screen.
03-28-2014, 10:42 AM
HAL

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Originally Posted by Powskier

dont you all feel stupid, runnin circles aroud the overly complicated floorplans? Then ,I always laugh , as players die and lose their'' hard earned'' buffs anyway. this is such an easy troll,awsome response allready; thx softies.

Apparently the only argument you can come up with is to insult people. Very intelligent.
03-28-2014, 10:44 AM
Nestroy

I always wonder, when I read thru these threads, why OPs always do clad nerfs into good meaning words. Turbine, you have to nerf this, you have to nerf that. Monkchers OP, nerf monks. Ship buffs killing the play fun, nerf that. Shiradi too OP, nerf that. Except from obvious exploits or obvious cheating, if you do not want it, stop using it. Do not nerf the fun or happines of other players that find whatever useful.

Are ship buffs OP? Perhaps, especially on lv. 1-5 quests. So what?
Is monkcher OP? Perhaps, especially when kiting the whole EE dungeon. So what?
It´s not your play style. OK, we now know this. Feel happy.

So what? What me worry?

I want to enjoy playing DDO. As a multiple TR I like the buffs, especially the XP shrine. Can I live without? Yes. Can I live with them? Definitively. Shall Turbine do away with them? Why? Shall Turbine keep them? I would not mind. I would keep them as convenient.

So what?

Some things would go smoother if some people would keep away from always wanting to ruin some other peoples way of having fun. Its as dumb as other people not accepting unbuffed people into their LFM parties.
03-28-2014, 10:58 AM
HAL

For everyone who says that ship buffs hold up your group: in the time before guild ships people also complained about others holding up their groups. Selling, shopping, not finding the questgiver, going afk, etc. There will always be players holding up your group whether there are ship buffs or not.
03-28-2014, 11:04 AM
AirbornedChild

I do not use buffs at all. Owerpowered. I can handle dungeons even without buffs. Sometime i use XP and healamp buffs, but not the others.

And dungeons are still completed. Simple calculations show that getting buffs is smth like 2 minutes. I can use this time to run dungeon with the same speed.

Save time, do not use buffs!
03-28-2014, 11:17 AM
Deadlock

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Originally Posted by AirbornedChild

I do not use buffs at all. Owerpowered. I can handle dungeons even without buffs. Sometime i use XP and healamp buffs, but not the others.

Good for you.

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Originally Posted by AirbornedChild

Simple calculations show that getting buffs is smth like 2 minutes. I can use this time to run dungeon with the same speed.

Awesome.

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