Hi Welcome

Hi, welcome to DDO. :)

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/...mptheshark.jpg

Bonjour Bienvenue

Thank you ARKAT i never would have found this without you and seriously i cannot stop laughing it is so FULL of WIN tears are streaming down my face.

/EPIC

Hi Welcome

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Originally Posted by Arkat

Ok, now that we've gotten that out of the way...

Here's the history of Hi Welcome Vindraxx:

Hi Welcome was first used in the DDO Forums way back on June 13th, 2009 in the Argonnessen forums by Milamber69. In the same thread Milamber posetd it, other Argonites also used it. In the link below, note Tabun's form - probably the first time it was used in the correct form. HeavenlyCloud picked it up and then Raegoul picked it up immediately thereafter and ran with it, using it in it's current, correct form - Hi Welcome exclusively.

There is some debate as to who was actually the originator as it could have been used in-game chat between certain AoK members before its actual first appearance in the Forums. Anyway here's the link to the meme's first appearance in the DDO forums:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...85#post2237185

(Note the primitive incorrect form; also scroll down for other Argonites' usage of it)


Here's the first time HeavenlyCloud and Raegoul ever used Hi Welcome.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...04#post2258604


After a few months, it started to catch on. Raegoul started its common use but a few of us really started to run with it. I started using the meme in a different language (Spanish) - Hola Bienvenido. Strakeln wrote it backwards - Emocle Wih. Emili started writing it in Irish Ghaelic and others have translated it into French - Bonjour Bienvenue and Chinese - Ni Hao HuanYing. Other languages have been used as well.

When I first noticed the meme, I saw Raegoul using it and thought it was quite clever in its simplicity. The form was simple and elegant but its meaning was somewhat elusive to those who wished to put it into words. To get a grasp on its concept, you really need to have an intuitive understanding instead of a firm one. You either "know" when to use it or you don't.

So, Raegoul started to really use it. I picked it up and so did others. The problem was the others who picked it up may have gotten the idea of when to use it but they rarely used the proper form which is where I really come into the picture. Besides having used the meme in different languages first, I am the one who is MOST responsible for seeing that it is written correctly.

Just to review the form quickly, it should always be written with a capital H and a capital W. No punctuation is permissable either. It should always be written - Hi Welcome and no other way. If you're writing it in another language (and assuming the language has capital letters), only the first letter of each word should be capitalized and again no punctuation is used. The lone exception the "only the first latter in each word is capitalized" rule is for the Chinese form not written in characters. In this case Ni Hao HuanYing is correct. This is due to a peculiarity of the Chinese language.

While I have done the MOST corrections, it is quite gratifying to see others are picking up the ball and doing it as well.

As to it's meaning, while KKDragonLord has made an attempt to quantify it above, it is much more than that. Some would call it a "slam" or some sort of "snarky" reply. While that can be true it is much more subtle than that. It's meaning is more of a feeling than anything else. How can one possibly define Love adequately? They can't, of course, and likewise, no one can adequately define Hi Welcome

As I said previously, you either have the intuition necessary to grasp its meaning and use it in correct situations or you don't. I suppose some (those without the intial intuitive grasp of it) have figured it out eventually but they most likely observed its use over a long period of time and a large number of posts. Some have never "gotten" it and probably never will.

Good luck on your quest. :)

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Some things you should add is that it was first used verbally and it is said as it is punctuated with a flat tone used for both words. It was used to greet people joining the group and repeated in the same way as each person joined more specifically in raids. The more people that said it in the same fashion the funnier it became for everyone else. CREDIT must go to Milamber69 for its creation and common use. Everyone should PM him a thank you for creating such a valuable phrase.

'Hi Welcome' is not and has never been a 'slam' and Arkat is right, it is a phrase that can only be used intuitively.

It is occasionally misused when people think that it represents one finger which only serves to demean the usefulness of the phrase by actually trying to define what it means in using it to convey a meaning.

Strakeln Yes

Thanks Raegoul, I've incorporated the material you suggested in my "Origin" post. :)

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Originally Posted by Raegoul

Strakeln Yes

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...how the hell did you know that I was going to post that?

One of these days I want to see your master plans. Or are you like 'Lost' and just making it up as you go?

I'd have called them Argonauts.

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Originally Posted by Sir_Chonas

I'd have called them Argonauts.

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The -naut ending comes from the Latin "nauta" meaning sailor or traveler.

As the Argonnessen server is not on a ship or otherwise traveling and the DDO players who use that server are not physically traversing the innards of the server itself, Argonauts is definitely not appropriate.

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Originally Posted by Strakeln

...how the hell did you know that I was going to post that?

One of these days I want to see your master plans. Or are you like 'Lost' and just making it up as you go?

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The best plans are dynamic not static.

Some plans have a loose framework.

Some plans evolve out of responses to other plans.

Some plans do not produce what you specifically intend but may still achieve your goal.

Knowing what your plan's desired outcomes are requires patience and manipulation.

Blueprints are a communication tool designed to inform people what the plan is but they never ever match what is actually built.

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Originally Posted by arkat

the -naut Ending Comes From The Latin "nauta" Meaning Sailor Or Traveler.

As The Argonnessen Server Is Not On A Ship Or Otherwise Traveling And The Ddo Players Who Use That Server Are Not Physically Traversing The Innards Of The Server Itself, Argonauts Is Definitely Not Appropriate.

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+1

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Originally Posted by arkat

ok, Now That We've Gotten That Out Of The Way...

Here's The History Of Hi Welcome Vindraxx:

Hi Welcome Was First Used In The Ddo Forums Way Back On June 13th, 2009 In The Argonnessen Forums By Milamber69. In The Same Thread Milamber Posted It, Other Argonites Also Used It. In The Link Below, Note Tabun's Form - Probably The First Time It Was Used In The Correct Form. Heavenlycloud Picked It Up And Then Raegoul Picked It Up Immediately Thereafter And Ran With It, Using It In Its Current, Correct Form - Hi Welcome Exclusively.

There Is Some Debate As To Who Was Actually The Originator As It Could Have Been Used In-game Chat Between Certain Aok Members Before Its Actual First Appearance In The Forums.

Edit: According To Raegoul...



Indeed, As I Suspected, It Started In In-game Chat. Please Make Sure You Guys Pm Milamber69 As Raegoul Suggested. ;)


Anyway, Here's The Link To The Meme's First Appearance In The Ddo Forums:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...85#post2237185

(note The Primitive Incorrect Form; Also Scroll Down For Other Argonites' Usage Of It)


Here's The First Time Heavenlycloud And Raegoul Ever Used Hi Welcome:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...04#post2258604


After A Few Months, It Started To Catch On. Raegoul Started Its Common Use But A Few Of Us Really Started To Run With It. I Started Using The Meme In A Different Language (spanish) - Hola Bienvenido. Strakeln Wrote It Backwards - Emocle Wih. Emili Started Writing It In Irish Ghaelic And Others Have Translated It Into French - Bonjour Bienvenue And Chinese - Ni Hao Huanying. Other languages Have Been Used As Well.

When I First Noticed The Meme, I Saw Raegoul Using It And Thought It Was Quite Clever In Its Simplicity. The Form Was Simple And Elegant But Its Meaning Was Somewhat Elusive To Those Who Wished To Put It Into Words. To Get A Grasp On Its Concept, You Really Need To Have An Intuitive Understanding Instead Of A Firm One. You Either "know" When To Use It Or You Don't.

So, Raegoul Started To Really Use It. I Picked It Up And So Did Others. The Problem Was The Others Who Picked It Up May Have Gotten The Idea Of When To Use It But They Rarely Used The Proper Form Which Is Where I Really Come Into The Picture. Besides Having Used The Meme In Different Languages First, I Am The One Who Is Most Responsible For Seeing That It Is Written Correctly.

Just To Review The Form Quickly, It Should Always Be Written With A Capital H And A Capital W. No Punctuation Is Permissable Either. It Should Always Be Written - Hi Welcome And No Other Way. If You're Writing It In Another Language (and Assuming The Language Has Capital Letters), Only The First Letter Of Each Word Should Be Capitalized And Again No Punctuation Is Used. The Lone Exception To The "only The First Latter In Each Word Is Capitalized" Rule Is For The Chinese Form Not Written In Characters. In This Case Ni Hao Huanying Is Correct. This Is Due To A Peculiarity Of The Chinese Language.

While I Have Done The Most Corrections, It Is Quite Gratifying To See Others Are Picking Up The Ball And Doing It As Well.

As To It's Meaning, While Kkdragonlord Has Made An Attempt To Quantify It Above, It Is Much More Than That. Some Would Call It A "slam" Or Some Sort Of "snarky" Reply. While That Can Be True It Is Much More Subtle Than That. It's Meaning Is More Of A Feeling Than Anything Else. How Can One Possibly Define Love Adequately? They Can't, Of Course, And Likewise, No One Can Adequately Define Hi Welcome

As I Said Previously, You Either Have The Intuition Necessary To Grasp Its Meaning And Use It In Correct Situations Or You Don't. I Suppose Some (those Without The Intial Intuitive Grasp Of It) Have Figured It Out Eventually But They Most Likely Observed Its Use Over A Long Period Of Time And A Large Number Of Posts. Some Have Never "gotten" It And Probably Never Will.

Good Luck On Your Quest. :)

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thanks for the explanation, may help some but probably not me. I'm pretty much hopeless :D

Hallo Willkommen

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Originally Posted by Irinis

Hi, welcome to DDO. :)

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Fail

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Originally Posted by Raegoul

Hi Welcome

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Win

Hi Welcome started on Argonessen when some noob joined the party and typed it in party chat, as if both saying hello and welcoming himself to the party. He proved to be quite a noob during the quest.

It caught on immediately and was used as a joke on Argo for a while before it made it to the forums, where it has become somewhat of a phenomenon.

It's almost as if you didn't read the thread Asp. The bit about the noob was interesting though.

Well, I linked him here. :D

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Originally Posted by Arkat

It's almost as if you didn't read the thread Asp. The bit about the noob was interesting though.

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I glosssed over it, I honestly didn't read it all.

I figured I would toss in where it really originally came from.

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Originally Posted by SquelchHU

Well, I linked him here. :D

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Truth.

Someone should post this out to Urban Dictionary so the infection can spread.

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Originally Posted by Maxelcat

Someone should post this out to Urban Dictionary so the infection can spread.

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I suppose I could do it when I get home from work.

Thanks for the suggestion. :)