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03-03-2010, 11:07 AM
Sunlessdays

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Originally Posted by Delacroix21

Why doesnt every dragonmarked race get a NONdragonmark PrE? Halflings should get a rogue based one, and humans maybe a fighter based. Not every halfling (and next to NO humans) have dragonmarks anyway.

I hope WF juggernaut doesnt require adamantine body feat, this will really limit the PrE to WF fighters...

Warforged Juggernaut is barbarian specific even if you need to take Adamantine body feat, That particular feat doesn't even affect barbarians. They still get the 5% run speed as well as still able to rage. I've made plenty of barb warforged with it. Besides that You could more likely then not apply Warforged Juggernaut to all classes with some minor things affected such as Spell failure, etc. Also if done right the Adamantine DR you might have to take for Juggernaut might just replace the normal DR you get from The barbarian class or it very well might stack. Which may be overpowering or make the barbarian a more viable class option either or it's a very exciting prospect imo
03-03-2010, 02:26 PM
KoboldTrapper

More viable? Barb is the single toughest class in DDO. DR + HP = Raid tank. End game especially. The only thing that they "need more of" is negligible. They can push their DR up to, what, 15 with no DR bypassing damage other than spells. The only thing they need in regards to hitpoints is someone who can efficiently heal them.

lol.

I think that the best thing it could possibly do would be giving the barb some form of unstoppable damage per swing*, some degree of spell reflection/spell damage reduction, or something else to resemble how unstoppable and destructive the warforged juggernaut is.

*Damage that bypasses DR and effectively treats the enemy as having lower fortification by 1 step
03-04-2010, 12:34 PM
Danneskjold184

Quick question: Is there anywhere online where I can read about these prestige classes that haven't been released to DDO yet?
03-04-2010, 12:47 PM
Daehawk

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Originally Posted by Danneskjold184

Quick question: Is there anywhere online where I can read about these prestige classes that haven't been released to DDO yet?

Nope, the ones that haven't been released other than the names of them people don't know the stats on them as they are being developed. Maybe Eladrin will give us a puzzle with one of them in it sometime soon.
03-04-2010, 12:57 PM
Baahb3

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Originally Posted by Sunlessdays

Warforged Juggernaut is barbarian specific even if you need to take Adamantine body feat, That particular feat doesn't even affect barbarians. They still get the 5% run speed as well as still able to rage. I've made plenty of barb warforged with it. Besides that You could more likely then not apply Warforged Juggernaut to all classes with some minor things affected such as Spell failure, etc. Also if done right the Adamantine DR you might have to take for Juggernaut might just replace the normal DR you get from The barbarian class or it very well might stack. Which may be overpowering or make the barbarian a more viable class option either or it's a very exciting prospect imo

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03-04-2010, 01:00 PM
Lorien_the_First_One

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Originally Posted by Baahb3

Adamant body counts as heavy armor, barbarians are not proficant in heavy armor. If you have that feat you would take the armor check penalty associated with it as a penalty on all to hit rolls which is -5 IIRC.

Incorrect. WF are ALWAYS proficient with their bodies.
03-04-2010, 01:01 PM
moorewr

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Originally Posted by Daehawk

Nope, the ones that haven't been released other than the names of them people don't know the stats on them as they are being developed. Maybe Eladrin will give us a puzzle with one of them in it sometime soon.

To the contrary, all of the Prestige Classes are derived from pen and paper prestige classes. Some can be found on the D20 SRD <http://www.d20srd.org>, the PHB or Eberron Campaign Sourcebook or on wizards.com.. mind you, they will be quite different from how they will turn out here.
03-04-2010, 01:02 PM
Baahb3

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Originally Posted by KoboldTrapper

They can push their DR up to, what, 15 with no DR bypassing damage other than spells.

DR can only get to 9/- with enhancements unless you are using the 20sec boost.
03-04-2010, 01:05 PM
totmacher

happy holidays!
03-04-2010, 01:10 PM
Baahb3

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Originally Posted by Lorien_the_First_One

Incorrect. WF are ALWAYS proficient with their bodies.

I stand corrected, I guess I did not remember correctly.
03-04-2010, 01:16 PM
Daehawk

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Originally Posted by moorewr

To the contrary, all of the Prestige Classes are derived from pen and paper prestige classes. Some can be found on the D20 SRD <http://www.d20srd.org>, the PHB or Eberron Campaign Sourcebook or on wizards.com.. mind you, they will be quite different from how they will turn out here.

Yes, but we don't know exactly what they will use for Tier X and such. Which abilities they will keep and which they won't use.
03-04-2010, 02:46 PM
SquelchHU

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Originally Posted by Lorien_the_First_One

Incorrect. WF are ALWAYS proficient with their bodies.

This is the best WF quote ever. Yoink!
03-04-2010, 05:43 PM
dgarnett

Juggernauts should get a Bull Rish special attack that is the same as a Minotaur charge. A higher tier effect could be for a Guard Item to proc with Bullrush, as well as higher base damage and knockdown DCs, maybe go as far as to make the crit multiplier higher. If they do that, these Bullrush Attacks should count in enhancement effects that raise tactical attack DCs from stuff like Kensai and the others.

Juggernauts IIRC forgoe the ability to be healed and gain immunity to Critical Hits in pnp Eberron.
03-07-2010, 10:56 AM
Delacroix21

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Originally Posted by Eladrin

Prestige Enhancements planned over the next few modules are:

Human: Cannith Dragonmark Heir, Deneith Dragonmark Heir, Orien Dragonmark Heir
Dwarf: Kundarak Dragonmark Heir, Dwarven Defender [Counts as Fighter]
Elf: Arcane Archer [Counts as Ranger], Phiarlan Dragonmark Heir
Halfling: Jorasco Dragonmark Heir
Warforged: Warforged Juggernaut [Counts as Barbarian]
Drow: Scorpion Wraith [Counts as Rogue]

Dragonmark Heir= Honestly what do we have to look forward to here? More dragonmark usage and perhaps another spell? I would rather take a regular PrE thank you very much, and its not fair that you gave elves and dwarves that option but not halflings and humans.

Scorpion Wraith, WF juggernaught, Dwarven Defender= With the exception of dwarven defender (which hopefully is an exact copy of stalwart defender) why make up a new PrE instead of using an existing one? While I LIKE the idea of new/special/different racial PrEs the fact that you make them count as a certain classes PrE is lame. You are basically telling elven archers NOT to be rangers, etc. This is just silly...

On top of that considering how long it has taken to add even the few PrEs we have, it scares me that you would make up a new one for a race instead of using 1 your allready working on.:(

EDIT
Just realized that this is what the future holds=
Elven Archers= KENSAI + Arcane Archer
WF Juggernaught= KENSAI + WF juggernaught
Drow Wraiths= KENSAI + Scropion Wraith (to a lesser degree then the above 2)
03-08-2010, 01:38 AM
chubbs99

This thread is still being Necroed? Silly Pale masters....

You guys do realize that the OP was made in 2008 right, and I doubt it even applies anymore as they've made so many changes to the game. Sure those may be the name of future PrE's.. But anything they were planned to be back then has probably changed ;)

It would however been nice if we were to get a list of updated planned PrE's, even if they won't be out for another 2-3 years...
03-08-2010, 02:53 AM
honkuimushi

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Originally Posted by chubbs99

This thread is still being Necroed? Silly Pale masters....

You guys do realize that the OP was made in 2008 right, and I doubt it even applies anymore as they've made so many changes to the game. Sure those may be the name of future PrE's.. But anything they were planned to be back then has probably changed ;)

It would however been nice if we were to get a list of updated planned PrE's, even if they won't be out for another 2-3 years...

Actually, Eladrin did a stealth update about 3 months ago, adding a few more PrEs to the list. So I wouldn't say it's dead yet. Still, I would like to see some updates on what PrEs we can expect to see next and what time frames we're talking about. And maybe a few previews explaining what direction they're taking for some of the PrEs.
03-08-2010, 03:00 AM
lazylaz

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Originally Posted by Delacroix21

Just realized that this is what the future holds=
Elven Archers= KENSAI + Arcane Archer

Yep, have one. She does good work and can still hit things with melee-wise. I'm happy with it. For now...
03-08-2010, 03:35 AM
Angelus_dead

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Originally Posted by chubbs99

It would however been nice if we were to get a list of updated planned PrE's

Look at the first post in this thread. Notice that the developers edit it when they have new information, even if a year has passed.
03-08-2010, 04:32 AM
Pyromaniac

Just because I have to ask....Are we there yet?
03-08-2010, 05:15 AM
melkor1702

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Originally Posted by totmacher

happy holidays!

And happy holidays to you too Tot!

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