2 build requests

I have 2 different monks I am looking into building but am unsure on how I should split them and could really use your guys help.


I want one to be a beefy DPS using Qstafs... I know I want him monk/rogue but a unsure of the best split.... also would it be worth it to splash a little cleric in there maybe 12/6/2 M/r/c ?? ???s race class split when ect???

and the other would be a light cleric based around his self healing human I know for the enhanced healing but what kind of split would I be looking at for the best bang for the puck running with hand wraps should he splash cleric for the heling bonus?? how much rogue should I really take ect ect ect

I could really use your guys input on this (and I know neither fo these builds are min max super troopers, but they both seem like they would be fun to play and as this is my first play through they will be TRed any way so I have time befor I look for "the best build"


Thanks loads

QS: M16/R4 I think.

Common splashes are: 8/6x/6x, 9/9x/2x, 10/8x/2x, 12/6x/2x, 15/5x, 16/4x, 16/2x/2x and 18/2x. There are other ones too I'm sure but they are "forumly uncommon". Take a look at the enhancement trees at ddowiki.com and try to figure out what would suit you the most. Every build is viable in EN content. Maybe even on EH (solo). All builds should be viable if you do EE in group, but many of them won't be viable if you want to solo EEs. Mind that the people on the forums here do not know everything and did not try everything from 1-20. They use wiki or Char Planner or Destiny Planner. They have everything the game offers (crafting and so on) but you have nothing. So a build that differs from common sense might also be viable and very good. Just think about what you want and what seems to make sense and try it.

ar say 6 lvls of cleric worth the healing addition if so is it really worth taing the rogue splash...... the QS one I know ill be taking rogue for access to the acrobat trees staff feets + the utility of being a trapper but im not sure if any other splash would be worth it.

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Originally Posted by Lanhelin

QS: M16/R4 I think.

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Be forewarned: Quivering Palm DCs are about to get nerfed hard in U21; DC bonuses like Shatter and Combat Mastery will no longer apply, IIUC. That's gonna make monk lvls 15+ a lot less attractive... :(

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Originally Posted by unbongwah

Be forewarned: Quivering Palm DCs are about to get nerfed hard in U21; DC bonuses like Shatter and Combat Mastery will no longer apply, IIUC. That's gonna make monk lvls 15+ a lot less attractive... :(

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neither of thes builds I am debating will be taking monk higher than 12 I dont think so that shouldnt hurt me TOO bad...

Notes:
1.) You may want a different leveling order to get Quick Strike earlier. I did the order I did for better skill progression. Monk 12 by level 18 is also very good so you don't have to use an epic feat for master stances.
2.) For a non-2xTR, you could drop strength, con, or int. Depends on whether you value 1.5 damage, 1xLevel HP, or skill points more. Past lives don't need to be monk either, that's just what I put because it fits the build the best.
3.) You could change feats a bit. Dodge/Mobility/Deflect Arrows/Toughness/Magical Training are mostly filler. The +1 dex tome is needed for dodge if you want it. The +2 tomes and other +1 tomes are completely optional.
4.) I chose 12/6/2 for monkly goodness, SD stance for needed defenses (plus a cheaper haste boost than rogues get), and rogue for Quick Strike, 2 tiers of staff training, and the 15% attack speed. More rogue doesn't seem to offer too much to me, especially with tight(ish) AP.
5.) Levels in strength, though this should be fairly clear by the OC and the ending STR.



Staffy Thing
Level 28 Lawful Neutral Human Male
(6 Fighter / 12 Monk / 2 Rogue / 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 436
Spell Points: 80

BAB: 16/16/21/26/26
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 18
Will: 13

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 18 29
Dexterity 12 14
Constitution 16 18
Intelligence 14 16
Wisdom 8 10
Charisma 8 10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

~~Level 1 (Rogue)~~
Feat: (Human Bonus) Cleave
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
~~Level 2 (Monk)~~
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
~~Level 3 (Monk)~~
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
~~Level 4 (Monk)~~
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
~~Level 5 (Monk)~~
~~Level 6 (Monk)~~
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
~~Level 7 (Monk)~~
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Deflect Arrows
~~Level 8 (Monk)~~
~~Level 9 (Monk)~~
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
~~Level 10 (Monk)~~
~~Level 11 (Monk)~~
~~Level 12 (Monk)~~
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
~~Level 13 (Monk)~~
~~Level 14 (Fighter)~~
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
~~Level 15 (Fighter)~~
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Magical Training
~~Level 16 (Fighter)~~
~~Level 17 (Fighter)~~
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
~~Level 18 (Fighter)~~
Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms
~~Level 19 (Fighter)~~
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
~~Level 20 (Rogue)~~
~~Level 21 (Epic)~~
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
~~Level 22 (Epic)~~
~~Level 23 (Epic)~~
~~Level 24 (Epic)~~
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Martial Arts
~~Level 25 (Epic)~~
~~Level 26 (Epic)~~
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
~~Level 27 (Epic)~~
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
~~Level 28 (Epic)~~
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Riddle of Fire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Ki Bolt (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Sounding Staff (Rank 1) (For implement spellpower for coccoon - could swap)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Staff Training (Rank 1) (Tier 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Way of the Clever Monkey (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Staff Training (Rank 1) (Tier 2)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Fists of Iron (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Staff Training (Rank 1) (Tier 3)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Lighting the Candle (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Embrace the Void (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Strength (Rank 1) (Tier 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Staff Training (Rank 1) (Tier 4)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Strength (Rank 1) (Tier 2)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Staff Specialization (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Every Light Casts a Shadow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Control (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Training (Rank 1) (Tier 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Training (Rank 1) (Tier 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Agility (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Overbalance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Stalwart Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Defense Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Resilient Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Druidic Weapons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Druidic Weapons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)