Holy Aura ... is not that reckless

First at all, I have to thanks Narshin the cleric in the reaver raid (at Ghallanda) point it out for me.


After a couple of test in game, I can now say the Holy Aura (CLR8) was not that useless in the main time.

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Originally Posted by DDO In-Game description

Ward allied with +4 deflection bonus to AC, +4 resistance bonuses to save, and immunity to enchantment and charm spell.

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Yes, pretty useless isn't it? Since these days, everybody and their dog at level 16, have a deflection bonus +5 AC item, or at least, can use +4 AC from shiled of faith, so the AC bonus from Holy Aura was next to useless.


Enchantment spell and charm spell? very rare monster in DDO cast such kind of spell, maybe just few vampire do so. And they LOVE to spam dispell :rolleyes: Oh well.


Now, +4 resistance bonus ... since Nightshield give up to +3 resistance bonus, and +4 item was almost everywhere, +5 can be a little bit tricky but that's not the point here. Again, useless, IF IT REALLY GIVE RESISTANCE BONUS to save.



Actaully, it isn't, in DDO.


Let's talk about Protection From Evil first; it suppose to give resistance bonuses on save against evil being, but IF IT DO SO, no one will bother to use it past level 9. So the dev decide to shift the resistance bonus to something else, let's say alignment bonus. It doesn't show up on your character sheet, but if any evil being casting spell on you, you can notice it on the combat log.

If you have the rule set from SRD, you could easily notice something interesting at Holy Aura section:

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Originally Posted by SRD: Holy Aura section

First, each warded creature gains a +4 deflection bonus to AC and a +4 resistance bonus on saves. Unlike protection from evil, this benefit applies against all attacks, not just against attacks by evil creatures.

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Now something is much more interesting -- if you cast Holy Aura in DDO, it DOES give you +4 *something* bonuses on your save, and you can easily notice it on your character sheet (unlike Protection from Evil). However, it doesn't stack with Protection From Evil's *alignment bonus* when you against evil being, so it's safe to assume that it also use the same bonus type on save as what protection from evil does. And it works for ALL Type of thing not just evil beings. Neutral target, Good target, even Trap !



So there's one more reason to use this spell, especially when you are in the situation which you want to boost your save.

if this is true and i don't dispute it sicne i knew about the proc evil thing, it coudl be an unitential bug or it could be on pourpose, now if only it was group like it is sposed to be... any one tesed if it stacks with G-hero's moral bonus?\

If it;s stacks and they make it group it will become my clerics vertion of Haste always there for the group.

Since the spell is broke already, I wouldnt doubt that the Resistance bonus is bugged as well... But yes, I can attest to the fact that the save bonus does indeed currently stack with everything.

It Should be a higher level version of "Recitation" IMO. GIve it a Luck Bonus and fix it so it helps the Entire party as per the description please.

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Originally Posted by Desteria

if this is true and i don't dispute it sicne i knew about the proc evil thing, it coudl be an unitential bug or it could be on pourpose, now if only it was group like it is sposed to be... any one tesed if it stacks with G-hero's moral bonus?\

If it;s stacks and they make it group it will become my clerics vertion of Haste always there for the group.

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Yes, it's *bonuses on save* (made it clear that it's ac component doesn't) stack with everything except Protection From Evil, at least from what I've test.

Your original status *checked*
Greater Heroism *checked*
Regular Resist Item / Nightshield *checked*
Recitation *checked*
Protection from Evil *checked -- not stackable*
Show up the right value on character sheet *checked*
Show up the right value on combat log / screen die *checked*
[UPDATE] Haste *checked*

And like I said, it works against trap, spell. I believe it also works for thing like stunning blow or such, which do Fortitude check. (But I didn't verify against combat skill yet)