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Given that mod 7 may contain the release of monks, i was thinking that maybe the devs make a training grounds. An instance where people can practice there twitch skills, with obstacles and such. Seems to me that the game is now turning more to gameplay as ac matters less and tactics rule, flanking blocking ,surrounding.. etc so maybe even a level with trainign golems for team tactics all in the monk training fashion. What do you guys think?
no one thinks this is a good or bad idea?
I think a slight twist on this would be really fun, make an arena for fighting with obstacles etc... and let us team up and take on mobs and wager on the events (like an obstacle filled arena).
Honestly?
I think it wouldn't be worth the effort. I'd rather they spent the time it would take on actual quests instead of some kind of training area.
If you want to practice I'd suggest going into quests that are way low for your level and/or going to Risia.
They could make it into a team based arena that could give xp/rewards depending on the challenge. I think it would be a fun diversion personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by MysticTheurge
They tried it in EQ2. It was hardly ever used. It sounds good on paper but people would rather be out adventuring. It's only really fun fighting wave after wave for maybe the first 10 minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by EinarMal
are you thinking like a coliseum type area where its just an open arena where mobs come out at you (like VoN 1), or are you thinking like more a gauntlet of rooms with challenges to get to the next room? (sort of like deleras part one where the gates drop for each room but it could be totally different, as long as you go 1 room at a time?)Quote:
Originally Posted by EinarMal
Either way I'd love to have this, it would be a great way to compete and see how far your character could make it
I wouldn't want any rewards for this though, make it like pvp (also no item damage on death)
Honestly I was picturing something along the lines of a FPS death match style arena with multiple levels, water, obstacles etc... that would let you fight in teams. They could stock the levels with mobs based on party level and difficulty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slayer918
Yeah not sure how apt an EQ2 comparison is, since combat is so much more dynamic and fun (in my opinion). It doesn't have to be waves of easy opponents, and you could have a seperate reward system for it. Just give out turn in tokens or have a leaderboard. The tokens could be turned in for a nice roll on an end reward item. Nothing that would break the game in any way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oreg
that would be cool too, I would think they should have more settings then level 1-16(or like a level for 1-4, 5-8 etc), or atleast have those level splits and an "Epic" setting, that way casual gamers that are capped can play on 16 and be challenged but raiders can enter the epic setting and be challenged to where they fail within a few minutes (this would mean that there wouldn't be a whole lot of the "endless waves is only fun for the first 10 minutes" as lasting that long on your appropriate setting would be a real challenge for you)... I think epic setting should be filled with monsters that are like blackgaurds back in the day (or elite reavers at level 10 when you "needed" a wounding weapon, because they were so challenging)Quote:
Originally Posted by EinarMal
If there isn't a level for everyone to be challenged then I think this would get boring for most people...
I want the hardest setting to be where the first or second wave wipes almost every group that goes in there
Yeah, it would spawn off of your level range and you still choose normal-hard-elite like on a normal quest. So, take the highest level in your party and that sets the base challenge rating of mobs (so a level 14 quest type mobs). Then you choose the difficulty. So a party with a level 14 in it, choosing elite, could indeed get mass amounts of beholders, blackgaurds etc... that could be made very challenging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slayer918
I kind of like the idea of getting tokens based on how long you can survive (no shrines or maybe just 1 in the arena). So, eventually you would run out of resources and die (as the mobs would keep respawining). They could post best times by level and difficulty on a leaderboard. You would also earn tokens based on your performance and how long you last. If you get some X number of tokens the arena boss can hand you out a standard level appropriate random end reward list.
Just make sure you have different types of tokens for each level so you cant stand in there as a level 14 in a level 1 setting to farm tokens (IE level 1-4ish drop Red tokens etc and then the color determines the reward) and perhaps make difficulty increase the # of tokens?Quote:
Originally Posted by EinarMal
no pvp, just a gauntlet type area* with obstacles and such that allow you to develop twitch skills or improve what u have currently... i dont c this being hard since it wouldnt have mobs, sortof like viking challenge. You could alternatively have a similar style as a dungeon instance, where it would be the same idea with mobs that require team tactics to take down. This could even be a side pet project, its just i notice people who have horrible twitch play and i find it would be a great tool to make a place where people could improve there twitch for as little or as long as they want. Given that in time it wont be useful as everyone will develop these skills, we need it for raids in the future that will be like the abbot and require strats and well coordinated moves.
How much time could it take really, you could even use the oriental style scenery from twf to save time on making a new one.
This does sound like something that could be implemented as a new PVP option, if designed well. Implement a competetive/cooperative option when entering, team or individual, and create an Olympic style training area...
An obstacle course for Rogues to practice traps and stealth... (secondary use for zergers to see how bad they REALLY are)
An area where practice dummies could be used to compete in DPS contests...
An area more friendly to some of the "homegrown" competitions imaginative players have (and will) devised...
A scoring system that works, usable by competition hosts to accurately run their events...
These are just a few uses of the top of my head.
Something like this could be fun, but shouldn't be a high priority.
For training, all I really need is an indestructable box/target dummy so I can test spells and attacks. I can do this in the tavern brawl with a friend, but then I get these buzzing little gnats thinking I want to fight them and sending me 1337-speak tells. :rolleyes: (also, many spells don't work in tavern brawl).
For twitch training against actual creatures, I think you're better off running a quest.
or all suggestion for mod.7? my suggestion for mod.7 would be better animation of ranged weapons. I want to see flaming arrows actually flaming.
I thought it would be a good idea til you guys started talking about a reward system. But, they already have training grounds where you can go in with up to 6 people (sometimes 12) to practice your skills and get rewards...they call them quests ;)
You can't be serious?
None of the other classes / races have anything like this ...
Why should monks?
And maybe some people get tired of running the same static quests, and waiting 4 months for more content, they call that getting bored....Quote:
Originally Posted by jjflanigan
I mean would it kill them to release one arena style map that randomly spawned mobs so that it is somewhat fun to re-run? I doubt a token turn in based on difficulty and requiring a decent amount of play time would break the game gimme a break.
Edited for smiley reduction (although his post is still annoying)....
Too many smileys breaks the forums. :(