Gallanda Mess

[aGarde]

I really have no idea why the people on G did this, but thinking the grass would be greener on Orien only made G into a bad server. Almost no raids are ever run, unless you count Von5/6, maybe chrono or TS. That's it. Skele raid the other night was short manned, and that was the first non von5 raid I've seen up in 2 weeks. I'm sure they're run but it's few and far between now.

For the dreamers who left, I hear them complaining about the lag, and that 1/2 their guild is stuck on G, blah blah blah. In the end, all these people are going to have accomplished is create a very laggy server and one that is dreadfully short on raiding / questing.

No other server did what these G people did, and I do not believe this is what the devs intended for. O/S servers had broken transfers and HC people couldn't move their HC toons. That's what this was for, but SSG opened up free Xfers for all servers, and this happened. PAH!

[captain1z]

I really have no idea why the people on G did this, but thinking the grass would be greener on Orien only made G into a bad server. Almost no raids are ever run, unless you count Von5/6, maybe chrono or TS. That's it. Skele raid the other night was short manned, and that was the first non von5 raid I've seen up in 2 weeks. I'm sure they're run but it's few and far between now.

For the dreamers who left, I hear them complaining about the lag, and that 1/2 their guild is stuck on G, blah blah blah. In the end, all these people are going to have accomplished is create a very laggy server and one that is dreadfully short on raiding / questing.

No other server did what these G people did, and I do not believe this is what the devs intended for. O/S servers had broken transfers and HC people couldn't move their HC toons. That's what this was for, but SSG opened up free Xfers for all servers, and this happened. PAH!

I.m Not saying you're wrong at all, only that our experiences are different.

In the last 2 weeks Ive run multiple raid trains that otherwise may not have had a spot for me.

Ive done:

many Dryads
Just as meny Chronos
A fw VoDs
Hunt or be Hunted for the first 3 times ever in the last 2 weeks
Skeletons with the optional for the first time (plus 1 regular run)

I haven't run VoNs in months and I plan on taking this time to expand my raid experience. There are a lot I haven't run.
Ive been going into raids SOLO, just to get a feel for them beforehand.

I do see the population has dropped but I generally play solo anyway and now there is more room in raids for people who dont have much raid experience.

Maybe its the times we play. I tend to play on sundays, sometimes Saturdays for long time periods but I'll also play an hour or 2 late nights here and there.

At any rate, I imagine it will balance itself out. Just have to encourage the casuals to play and step up to raids. That may mean reducing difficulty a bit and having some patience but grooming casuals benefits everyone in the end.

[Kovalas]

I really have no idea why the people on G did this, but thinking the grass would be greener on Orien only made G into a bad server. Almost no raids are ever run, unless you count Von5/6, maybe chrono or TS. That's it. Skele raid the other night was short manned, and that was the first non von5 raid I've seen up in 2 weeks. I'm sure they're run but it's few and far between now.

For the dreamers who left, I hear them complaining about the lag, and that 1/2 their guild is stuck on G, blah blah blah. In the end, all these people are going to have accomplished is create a very laggy server and one that is dreadfully short on raiding / questing.

No other server did what these G people did, and I do not believe this is what the devs intended for. O/S servers had broken transfers and HC people couldn't move their HC toons. That's what this was for, but SSG opened up free Xfers for all servers, and this happened. PAH!


G was already a bad server because of lag, I'm told that the lag on Orien with all those players is pretty much the same. So given the choice of playing on a low pop server with lag or a high pop server with lag, I think the choice was a no brainer for alot of people.

I'm one of those players that didn't transfer in time, so my guild is on Orien and I'm stuck here for the time being.

PS: It's Ghallanda blah blah blah

[Sirea]

I really have no idea why the people on G did this, but thinking the grass would be greener on Orien only made G into a bad server. Almost no raids are ever run, unless you count Von5/6, maybe chrono or TS. That's it. Skele raid the other night was short manned, and that was the first non von5 raid I've seen up in 2 weeks. I'm sure they're run but it's few and far between now.

For the dreamers who left, I hear them complaining about the lag, and that 1/2 their guild is stuck on G, blah blah blah. In the end, all these people are going to have accomplished is create a very laggy server and one that is dreadfully short on raiding / questing.

No other server did what these G people did, and I do not believe this is what the devs intended for. O/S servers had broken transfers and HC people couldn't move their HC toons. That's what this was for, but SSG opened up free Xfers for all servers, and this happened. PAH!

But the people who stayed on Ghallanda have assured us that all is well! How can this be?

/s

The lag that's been on Orien still isn't as bad as the lag we'd get sometimes on Ghallanda. Still though, it seems that SSG should do some load balancing on their end to account for the transfers.

[Dandonk]

We told SSG what would happen. They didn't believe us. So here we are.

[Marshal_Lannes]

We told SSG what would happen. They didn't believe us. So here we are.

Where we are, is during about a 15-hour stretch on Orien, on any given day, you can run any raid you want. Raids are constantly being run. I've never seen such a raid-heavy server in DDO, even in the heyday of Shroud and Tower of Despair raiding wasn't this active. There is no mess (on Orien), unless by mess you mean having to decide what raid group to join or finding which character is currently off timer.

[Dandonk]

Where we are, is during about a 15-hour stretch on Orien, on any given day, you can run any raid you want. Raids are constantly being run. I've never seen such a raid-heavy server in DDO, even in the heyday of Shroud and Tower of Despair raiding wasn't this active. There is no mess (on Orien), unless by mess you mean having to decide what raid group to join or finding which character is currently off timer.

I'm on Orien, too. Orien is awesome, lots of people and LFMs and raids, as you say. It's great.

My post was referring to the OP, specifically talking about what this has done to poor G-land. It's not doing nearly as great.

[Ereshkigal]

I really have no idea why the people on G did this, but thinking the grass would be greener on Orien only made G into a bad server. Almost no raids are ever run, unless you count Von5/6, maybe chrono or TS. That's it. Skele raid the other night was short manned, and that was the first non von5 raid I've seen up in 2 weeks. I'm sure they're run but it's few and far between now.

For the dreamers who left, I hear them complaining about the lag, and that 1/2 their guild is stuck on G, blah blah blah. In the end, all these people are going to have accomplished is create a very laggy server and one that is dreadfully short on raiding / questing.

No other server did what these G people did, and I do not believe this is what the devs intended for. O/S servers had broken transfers and HC people couldn't move their HC toons. That's what this was for, but SSG opened up free Xfers for all servers, and this happened. PAH!

Another batch will leave as soon as transfers become active. Probably should make a plan if you haven't already.

Also, I've been on Orien, as I have characters there from before, and I haven't personally experienced any lag that doesn't exist on other servers, but I suppose it could just be at certain times when i'm not on.

[Mamalian]

Where we are, is during about a 15-hour stretch on Orien, on any given day, you can run any raid you want. Raids are constantly being run. I've never seen such a raid-heavy server in DDO, even in the heyday of Shroud and Tower of Despair raiding wasn't this active. There is no mess (on Orien), unless by mess you mean having to decide what raid group to join or finding which character is currently off timer.

This, though there is some increased lag from when we first landed on Orien's shores. But it's not nearly as bad as Gland was.

The rest of you still on Gland, transfers will be open again soon. Don't chose to stay on a barren wasteland.

[Soulfurnace]

I really have no idea why the people on G did this, but thinking the grass would be greener on Orien only made G into a bad server. Almost no raids are ever run, unless you count Von5/6, maybe chrono or TS. That's it. Skele raid the other night was short manned, and that was the first non von5 raid I've seen up in 2 weeks. I'm sure they're run but it's few and far between now.

Grass is indeed greener. I called out this would happen and I left early, encouraging my guild to move early. We have endless raids, I'm sick of buying timers.


For the dreamers who left, I hear them complaining about the lag, and that 1/2 their guild is stuck on G, blah blah blah. In the end, all these people are going to have accomplished is create a very laggy server and one that is dreadfully short on raiding / questing.

It's DDO; there's lag. It's not unplayable, only affected us during 1 raid and we finished without issues. Half the guild being stuck is a shame, but that's on SSG having bugs. The people that made it are loving it; those stuck on gland are missing us.


No other server did what these G people did, and I do not believe this is what the devs intended for. O/S servers had broken transfers and HC people couldn't move their HC toons. That's what this was for, but SSG opened up free Xfers for all servers, and this happened. PAH!

Gland was a frankly awful place. I stopped playing on gland. Orien is a fresh of breath air; we have instanced marketplaces. So many people active in an area there's instances. It's great. If I want a group, there's an lfm; if the lfm isn't what I want, I'll throw my own up and it just fills.

[Livmo]

I really have no idea why the people on G did this, but thinking the grass would be greener on Orien only made G into a bad server. Almost no raids are ever run, unless you count Von5/6, maybe chrono or TS. That's it. Skele raid the other night was short manned, and that was the first non von5 raid I've seen up in 2 weeks. I'm sure they're run but it's few and far between now.

For the dreamers who left, I hear them complaining about the lag, and that 1/2 their guild is stuck on G, blah blah blah. In the end, all these people are going to have accomplished is create a very laggy server and one that is dreadfully short on raiding / questing.

No other server did what these G people did, and I do not believe this is what the devs intended for. O/S servers had broken transfers and HC people couldn't move their HC toons. That's what this was for, but SSG opened up free Xfers for all servers, and this happened. PAH!

Some of the complainers are posting false flags.

However to add to your idea, I think it would be great is DDO had a free transfer period to any server once a year. During that annual time period it would be great if DDO put char. slots and storage on sale as well.

[Livmo]

Gland was a frankly awful place. I stopped playing on gland. Orien is a fresh of breath air; we have instanced marketplaces. So many people active in an area there's instances. It's great. If I want a group, there's an lfm; if the lfm isn't what I want, I'll throw my own up and it just fills.

This statement aligns better to the majority that made the change based on my play experience. I play during PST and I'm having a blast!

[Livmo]

Where we are, is during about a 15-hour stretch on Orien, on any given day, you can run any raid you want. Raids are constantly being run. I've never seen such a raid-heavy server in DDO, even in the heyday of Shroud and Tower of Despair raiding wasn't this active. There is no mess (on Orien), unless by mess you mean having to decide what raid group to join or finding which character is currently off timer.

This is my experience as well playing the PST time zone on Orien.

I use DDO audit and switch serves on my main account when I find a raid I'd like to eat :D

I'm starting to run low on raid timers, but in return I’ve made allot of new friends and I feel my DDO play experience is going through a positive renaissance. It’s been a long time since I’ve had the feeling to run home after work and jump on DDO!

And there are spill over effects. The local pizza delivery has seen an uptick in business from me ;)

(They have more than just pizza.)

[TedSandyman]

I would suggest not listening to anyone who creates a new posting persona so that you can't see their old posts especially on something as important as this.

If you have friends you trust, listen to them. If you personally KNOW someone who has transferred, talk to them.

Don't believe a thing you read on these boards unless it is someone you know in game or IRL. At least make sure they have some reputation before listening.

[mbartol]

^^^
This, at the very least.

Otherwise, log into whichever server you’re concerned about and roll-up a test character. Get a feel for the server during your playtime using your computer and network connection. This will allow you to make a better-informed decision, and may you’ll earn a few DDO Points for your trouble.

Isn’t it worth some investigation when making such an impactful decision? Or, of course, you can base it on whatever surely unbiased post you’ve read on the internet.

[aGarde]

I got all prepped to transfer, as I could see the writing on the wall for Ghallanda. Then they turned off the transfers and I'm stuck there. Groupings are abysmal. Some people might like it, and I have to admit, the lag is down, but the lfm and raids arena is dead for all intents. I wanted to run necro 4, and looked at the people online, saw 2 people running necro 4 and they told me they were full. Didn't want anyone joining them, which is fine, except for the lying part, but there's basically no one else on to run that level with. So, it sucks atm.

[Soulfurnace]

This statement aligns better to the majority that made the change based on my play experience. I play during PST and I'm having a blast!

I went from r10's to skellie raid, then a raid train which I had to leave early to join guild raids, and then there was another raid group.
SSG is getting their timer $$ from me, that's for sure. Pug reaper raids have been mostly fun. Some people who weren't quite ready for hard in r1 raids, but lol who cares.

Only complaint (DDO being laggy innately) has been just default server issues; sometimes you get that new guy in r10's who gets a bit frustrated because he's playing a melee and oh boy. Not that any decent group can't carry one lad, but rather they don't enjoy that.

[Livmo]

I went from r10's to skellie raid, then a raid train which I had to leave early to join guild raids, and then there was another raid group.
SSG is getting their timer $$ from me, that's for sure. Pug reaper raids have been mostly fun. Some people who weren't quite ready for hard in r1 raids, but lol who cares.

Only complaint (DDO being laggy innately) has been just default server issues; sometimes you get that new guy in r10's who gets a bit frustrated because he's playing a melee and oh boy. Not that any decent group can't carry one lad, but rather they don't enjoy that.

I'm cruising DDO Audit Right now while taking a break to eat : ) )

[Redtalktree]

I got all prepped to transfer, as I could see the writing on the wall for Ghallanda. Then they turned off the transfers and I'm stuck there. Groupings are abysmal. Some people might like it, and I have to admit, the lag is down, but the lfm and raids arena is dead for all intents. I wanted to run necro 4, and looked at the people online, saw 2 people running necro 4 and they told me they were full. Didn't want anyone joining them, which is fine, except for the lying part, but there's basically no one else on to run that level with. So, it sucks atm.

Join the club m8, I stuck after tranfering all my mule, except my main now am stuck,, sigh....

[LightBear]

The lfms are sparse on Gland alright. But those people that are still playing there are a blast to play with.

[ismikes]

"Gallanda Mess" sounds like something you order from the bar.

[Eantarus]

"Gallanda Mess" sounds like something you order from the bar.

A dive bar.

[sbeehre]

I and my mates are all on G-Land and we couldn't care less that people have left! less lag for us! Seriously though i guess only people who care about pugging might have a problem but since we are in a static group it dosen't have any effect on how we play the game.

[PapaToad51]

I got all prepped to transfer, as I could see the writing on the wall for Ghallanda. Then they turned off the transfers and I'm stuck there. Groupings are abysmal. Some people might like it, and I have to admit, the lag is down, but the lfm and raids arena is dead for all intents. I wanted to run necro 4, and looked at the people online, saw 2 people running necro 4 and they told me they were full. Didn't want anyone joining them, which is fine, except for the lying part, but there's basically no one else on to run that level with. So, it sucks atm.

Transfers are back up, so get a move on before they discover something they broke that benefits the players.

[Malveaux]

Transfers are back up, so get a move on before they discover something they broke that benefits the players.


Why G is the new default after 10 years of being left in the dust with fresh new players. Have fun in that same fish bowl you left with from G. lol

[Seph1roth5]

The best reaction to a problem (like low pop on ghallanda) is a kneejerk reaction in the other direction. That'll fix it. Just keep jerking that wheel side to side.

[Malveaux]

The best reaction to a problem (like low pop on ghallanda) is a kneejerk reaction in the other direction. That'll fix it. Just keep jerking that wheel side to side.


You really think SSG is going to do a server merger? Nah all those ships and shards are going to sit on G.

By what metric is Ghallanda's population any lower then the other 5 servers other than Argo and Orien? They are all low pop including Argo and Orien. If your high water mark is 600 people on a server. I got news for you. It isn't and that will dwindle over time after the euphoria has subsided.

[LT218]

By what metric is Ghallanda's population any lower then the other 5 servers other than Argo and Orien?
Umm... by pretty much any time you check this - https://www.ddoaudit.com/who

But hey, don't let actual stats stand in your way. By all means, continue your fictional propaganda campaign.

For anyone that does care about actual facts and stats, here's the current breakdown of Ghallanda's player count vs the other servers around 8:45 PM EST (minus Wayfinder and Hardcore since they're unusual outliers).


Server Players % vs Ghallanda
Ghallanda 210
Argo 421 200.48%
Cannith 241 114.76%
Khyber 364 173.33%
Orien 533 253.81%
Sarlona 376 179.05%
Thelanis 317 150.95%

Any time I've checked over the past 3 weeks, the percentages look pretty similar to that. Ghallanda's always near the bottom and the top servers have 1.5-2x as many players.

I guess if you don't consider that lower than the other servers, you're right...

[LT218]

Lvl 8+ LFM panels on Orien vs Ghallanda at 1PM EST.

https://i.imgur.com/kJhqxJg.png

Just in case you were thinking it was only Orien, here are the current LFM counts on all servers:
https://i.imgur.com/GjEcmyA.png

[Zites]

Lvl 8+ LFM panels on Orien vs Ghallanda at 1PM EST.

https://i.imgur.com/kJhqxJg.png

Just in case you were thinking it was only Orien, here are the current LFM counts on all servers:
https://i.imgur.com/GjEcmyA.png

LOL, just leave Gland or stay simple. They moved on and the cavalry, isn’t coming to save you.
They’re not going to make it a default server either because it’s a terrible look for new players to have nobody to group with. So you’re faced with give up your shards and boat, and go to Orion or Sarlona or stay put and enjoy the solitude. Also no one cares, we’ve all moved on.

[Mindos]

LOL, just leave Gland or stay simple. They moved on and the cavalry, isn’t coming to save you.
They’re not going to make it a default server either because it’s a terrible look for new players to have nobody to group with


The game worlds have reopened. Additionally, we have adjusted the Recommended World to Ghallanda.

Welcome new players!

[LT218]

LOL, just leave Gland or stay simple. They moved on and the cavalry, isn’t coming to save you.
They’re not going to make it a default server either because it’s a terrible look for new players to have nobody to group with. So you’re faced with give up your shards and boat, and go to Orion or Sarlona or stay put and enjoy the solitude. Also no one cares, we’ve all moved on.
Seems like your reply wasn't directed at my post even though you quoted it? I've already moved to Orien. No regrets. My guildies are really enjoying the robust grouping and LFM scene there.

Regardless, you should probably read the dev tracker posts after patch days before posting what SSG is or isn't going to do. ;)

https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/537580-Downtime-Notice-Wednesday-March-8th-9-00-AM-3-00-PM-Eastern-(-5-GMT)#post6574786

[Zites]

Seems like your reply wasn't directed at my post even though you quoted it? I've already moved to Orien. No regrets. My guildies are really enjoying the robust grouping and LFM scene there.

Regardless, you should probably read the dev tracker posts after patch days before posting what SSG is or isn't going to do. ;)

https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/537580-Downtime-Notice-Wednesday-March-8th-9-00-AM-3-00-PM-Eastern-(-5-GMT)#post6574786

LOL every once in a while being wrong brings me GREAT JOY as I get to laugh at the ineptitude displayed in my inability to comprehend and predict incompetence.

PS Glad you made it.

[Valtan]

Moved to Orien as well. Server is hustling and bustling. If only Severlin had kept his promise and created a Megaserver in 2017/18. For one year he came up with "we dont have guild tech" **** before dropping the ball. Its now proved that players were okay to setup a guild and spend for a new airship, he should have created the Megaserver.

SSG being stupid and incompetent as always, have made Gland the default server. Newbies are entering a graveyard and will leave the game soon.

[LT218]

Newbies are entering a graveyard and will leave the game soon.

Yep, this is firmly in the "day late, dollar short" category on SSG's part. Players even warned them what might/could/would happen if they made free transfers available, yet SSG went ahead with it anyway thinking they knew better.

Now they've doubled down on their hubris/mistake by making a ghost town server the default. Not exactly the first impression experience you want to make on anyone giving the game a try, eh? Not that we'll ever know, but it would be really interesting to see how many new players start on Ghallanda and quit within the first 3-6 months.

[LT218]

By what metric is Ghallanda's population any lower then the other 5 servers other than Argo and Orien?

For posterity's sake and to rule out the earlier Who and LFM counts being skewed due to higher Euro player populations, here's the counts at 7:15 PM EST.

Khyber's slacking a bit on LFMs, but still has nearly 2x the players of Ghostllanda.

https://i.imgur.com/wRaGImq.png

https://i.imgur.com/cCLsRAr.png

[Livmo]

Welcome new players!

Allot of folks left, becuase that server is glitchier than the others.

[Zites]

For posterity's sake and to rule out the earlier Who and LFM counts being skewed due to higher Euro player populations, here's the counts at 7:15 PM EST.

Khyber's slacking a bit on LFMs, but still has nearly 2x the players of Ghostllanda.

https://i.imgur.com/wRaGImq.png

https://i.imgur.com/cCLsRAr.png

Ok I will share with you the solution to the Glandmess.

1. Hire a few 1-3 well known players for temp/part time and pair them with members of the team, players that like to hand hold, and pay them to do so. Players that want to build their guilds and lead raids of Newbs.

Have a member of the team stop in every work day for a few hours with their counterpart for oversite, meet the new players in Korthos, explain the basics in invite them to the beginners guild. This will serve as a temporary home as they learn the basics and make the transition to finding a Guild. Allow GOOD Teacher Leaders to invite new players to their own guilds if they fit with each other. Give GOOD Teacher Leaders small perks like old cosmetics, small xp stones ect., to hand out to their guild members.


2.Set up 2 leader boards, 1 for best Push Raid leaders for highest difficulty completions, and 2 for total number of completions each month regardless of difficultly. Reward cosmetics that signify to players who's who, be it a PUSH Raid Leaders or GOOD Teacher Leaders and their Guilds.

3. Incentivize both these groups like you do in hardcore.

4.This is really not that hard, however when changing course the Captain must not let dead weight sink the ship. Nor can he give quarter to mutineers.

[Oliphant]

Initially the heroic grouping on Orien was off the charts great and the endgame was just ok but better than Ghallanda lately. I expected endgame to sort itself out and indeed the raid scene last week or two on Orien has been bustling. As of now Orien seems to be in a state of balance between heroic, epic and legendary. Lag is up and annoying to many. I'm mostly fine with it. The first order lag effects rarely caused a major crisis but the second order effect of the players with True Quit bringing the party down happened a time or two. Happened on Gland too so not sure there is a big deal to report about lag. Easy to get in a chill guild and plenty of other guilds as well. Many different kinds of guilds. Its fun meeting folks from the other servers but also fun seeing people you know from home server. Mixture of different server communities seems like a special occasion and people are a bit inspired.

[PapaToad51]

Welcome new players!

You just can't make this **** up. I'm moving past the idea that this is a result of pure incompetence and beginning to think they are either trying to kill this game off (short selling EG7?) or simply f'n evil.

[LeslieWest_GuitarGod]

G-LAND = GRASS ROOTS.

Ghallanda is going NOWHERE. Guilds BUILT Ghallanda and Ghallanda did its thing to build DDO.

And guilds will save and restore Ghallanda, just like they've ALWAYS DONE. Forum trolls and/or people that read them freaked out and moved did more "damage" than SSG did. It's really not all that bad folks.

In fact, in my guild Tyrs Paladium we are ready to take on NEW PLAYERS and have even got new recruits who've switched to Gallanda to play here. We have the logistics and knowledge and camaraderie IN PLACE to make people feel like they BELONG and we are still running groups.

And we are not alone. Ghallanda guild leaders will pick up the slack and will likely be happy to take on new blood when they get the opportunity.

GRASS ROOTS. We are 66 active strong. At our best we were 120ish. We WILL NOT go higher than that. Thats our comfort zone.

NO BS -- I honestly feel that SSG did Ghallanda a FAVOR. Now as the default server we will GROW. I believe we will replace those who left PLUS SOME. So if you are thinking of leaving Gland.. my recommendation - DONT!

RECRUIT!

[gravisrs]

The game worlds have reopened. Additionally, we have adjusted the Recommended World to Ghallanda.

So SSG did some precautions to prevent all Ghallanda gone. Check mate. Smart move.


But this means SSG is nowhere ready for megaserver despite Hardcore being super smooth. I guess it's not the server resources thing but merging the servers issue.

Why is this that hard to make it in the same way as server merges in LOTRO back in the years. Human resources?

[Soulfurnace]

Ghallanda is going NOWHERE. Guilds BUILT Ghallanda and Ghallanda did its thing to build DDO.

You are right; it's going nowhere. Stagnation, entropy, death.


And guilds will save and restore Ghallanda, just like they've ALWAYS DONE. Forum trolls and/or people that read them freaked out and moved did more "damage" than SSG did. It's really not all that bad folks.

The guilds that built Ghallanda died or left. It's certainly *not good* and there's no reason to stay. I spoke with two people today - they made level 15 iconics on Orien and were looking at leaving, seeing how the server actually is. 5 hours later and they confirmed they're leaving Ghallanda.


have even got new recruits who've switched to Gallanda to play here. We have the logistics and knowledge and camaraderie IN PLACE to make people feel like they BELONG and we are still running groups.

Odd, DDO audit shows 0 people moving TO Ghallanda. Are they making alts? Who actually moved? what toons?
Secondly, lol, you running groups means nothing. The people who ran PUBLICLY were the ones inclined to move. People running in insulated communities with guilds or friends only? Nothing changed.


NO BS -- I honestly feel that SSG did Ghallanda a FAVOR. Now as the default server we will GROW. I believe we will replace those who left PLUS SOME. So if you are thinking of leaving Gland.. my recommendation - DONT!

Of course, the person stuck on Ghallanda says to not leave Ghallanda.

[Oliphant]

Odd rhetoric to say there's no reason to stay on Ghallanda. Sounds like lots of people are staying on Ghallanda. Tough dilemma but people are the issue whether staying or leaving.

[Searious]

How do you transfer a guild to another server? Didn't think that was possible. What's the process?

[Brac]

How do you transfer a guild to another server? Didn't think that was possible. What's the process?

It is not a real transfer. All the players in the guild transfer to the new server and start it as a new guild. That is what is happening. They have to rebuy ships and re-earn renown.

[LT218]

G-LAND = GRASS ROOTS.

Ghallanda is going NOWHERE. Guilds BUILT Ghallanda and Ghallanda did its thing to build DDO.

And guilds will save and restore Ghallanda, just like they've ALWAYS DONE. Forum trolls and/or people that read them freaked out and moved did more "damage" than SSG did. It's really not all that bad folks.

In fact, in my guild Tyrs Paladium we are ready to take on NEW PLAYERS and have even got new recruits who've switched to Gallanda to play here. We have the logistics and knowledge and camaraderie IN PLACE to make people feel like they BELONG and we are still running groups.

And we are not alone. Ghallanda guild leaders will pick up the slack and will likely be happy to take on new blood when they get the opportunity.

GRASS ROOTS. We are 66 active strong. At our best we were 120ish. We WILL NOT go higher than that. Thats our comfort zone.

NO BS -- I honestly feel that SSG did Ghallanda a FAVOR. Now as the default server we will GROW. I believe we will replace those who left PLUS SOME. So if you are thinking of leaving Gland.. my recommendation - DONT!

RECRUIT!
So players who are happy they moved are "forum trolls" and "freaking out" now? Nice ad hominem.

If you have to put this much spin and rhetoric on something, it must be bad.

[Soulfurnace]

How do you transfer a guild to another server? Didn't think that was possible. What's the process?

As was mentioned, there's no moving a guild as an entity. It's the players making the choice to move together, knowing they'll need to rebuy the airship and all the renown.

We made that choice and the guild is already in the 70's with a shiny new airship.

[Livmo]

As was mentioned, there's no moving a guild as an entity. It's the players making the choice to move together, knowing they'll need to rebuy the airship and all the renown.

We made that choice and the guild is already in the 70's with a shiny new airship.

I've seen a few get past 100 already. Still the 70s is awesome!

I've only hit level 23 so far on the kracken I bought there.

[superevbully]

So players who are happy they moved are "forum trolls" and "freaking out" now? Nice ad hominem.

If you have to put this much spin and rhetoric on something, it must be bad.

i know right seesh what a overstated post

[sithhound]

How can Ghallanda be so dead, yet still so laggy?

I haven't left yet, but I did roll up a fresh toon on Orien last night, just to get a feel for how it is over there. First impression: way more people, and way less lag. Just running around town is so much smoother. I'm interested to see how it is on a weekend or during evening primetime.

[TedSandyman]

Is Ghallanda the default server now? It is according to ddoaudit.com.

Nice. I look forward to playing with new players.

And I am particularly enjoying the lack of lag. I haven't had any but some are still saying they see it.

Not a bunch of groups up, but it looks to me like basically the same as before hardcore.

I saw full raids up this weekend and had a few choices for grouping most of the time.

It was never much full during the week especially on EST.

[Malveaux]

For posterity's sake and to rule out the earlier Who and LFM counts being skewed due to higher Euro player populations, here's the counts at 7:15 PM EST.

Khyber's slacking a bit on LFMs, but still has nearly 2x the players of Ghostllanda.

https://i.imgur.com/wRaGImq.png

https://i.imgur.com/cCLsRAr.png


Yeah if you need LFMs to play another server would be better than staying on G. I don't. The majority of the stuff I got items reaper points isn't from pugging with the people that left. So as my buddy said recently "You wouldn't know it if I transferred and you wouldn't miss me if I didn't."

[Psiandron]

The lag on ghallanda has been awful for years. Ofc, it was expecially tough if you were running something end-game r10.

If you haven't played on it in the last few years, you really shouldn't comment as you have no idea what it was like.

Glad to be on Orien now. so many people transferring in had an impact I think, but the server seems stable now and running smoothly.

Can't imagine why you'd make Ghallanda the default server unless you were trying to shut the game down. Generally <200 people on the server and 1-3 lfms, often with just the poster in the group. Not really putting any kind of good face on the game at all. /shrug


Cheers Psi

[Qeistalan]

The lag on ghallanda has been awful for years.

I upgraded my rig years ago; no more lag for me on Ghallanda.

Running DDO on a TRS-80 or ColecoVision might be the problemo? :cool:

[LT218]

Yeah if you need LFMs to play another server would be better than staying on G. I don't. The majority of the stuff I got items reaper points isn't from pugging with the people that left. So as my buddy said recently "You wouldn't know it if I transferred and you wouldn't miss me if I didn't."

Cool story. Why would someone who doesn't play with pugs care who does or doesn't move to other servers enough to keep posting in the threads about it?

Oh, wait:

Yeah I want to transfer to Sarlona over Orien. I hope they at least open that one back up. G is deaded.

[Malveaux]

Cool story. Why would someone who doesn't play with pugs care who does or doesn't move to other servers enough to keep posting in the threads about it?

Oh, wait:


lol I just posted that to mess with a buddy of mine. lol If I wanted to consolidate some dice rollers to Sarlona. That's my business. I already got a little base of operation there.

[Cernunan]

Yeah if you need LFMs to play another server would be better than staying on G. I don't. The majority of the stuff I got items reaper points isn't from pugging with the people that left. So as my buddy said recently "You wouldn't know it if I transferred and you wouldn't miss me if I didn't."

I dont think that's quite the burn you think.

It's definetly not the best advertising for a MMO, saying you wouldn't even know if your buddy was even gone

[Ereshkigal]

So SSG did some precautions to prevent all Ghallanda gone. Check mate. Smart move.


But this means SSG is nowhere ready for megaserver despite Hardcore being super smooth. I guess it's not the server resources thing but merging the servers issue.

Why is this that hard to make it in the same way as server merges in LOTRO back in the years. Human resources?

They merged servers in the past. It was a dumpster fire that took 1-2 years to put out. There's more data per character, and more characters this time, and less staff to fix problems, so it would only be worse.

[Assassination]

I upgraded my rig years ago; no more lag for me on Ghallanda.

Running DDO on a TRS-80 or ColecoVision might be the problemo? :cool:

No lag on Ghallanda, that's hysterical. You must be smoking some time stopping stuff, nice.

[Malveaux]

I dont think that's quite the burn you think.

It's definetly not the best advertising for a MMO, saying you wouldn't even know if your buddy was even gone

First I would have to value a friendship with you. I don't. So It doesn't matter if I leave or stay.

[Malveaux]

No lag on Ghallanda, that's hysterical. You must be smoking some time stopping stuff, nice.

The only lag I got on G was when some crew was ddosin' to dupe some stuff.......

[Cernunan]

First I would have to value a friendship with you. I don't. So It doesn't matter if I leave or stay.

Honestly as there are people who treat you like this on G-land, I won't be looking back

[LT218]

lol I just posted that to mess with a buddy of mine. lol If I wanted to consolidate some dice rollers to Sarlona. That's my business. I already got a little base of operation there.

Suuuuure.... keep moving those goalposts. LOL.

[DareDelvis]

Title is the question:
If I transfer a character with unclaimed saga rewards are they available on destination server or lost?

[Dandonk]

Title is the question:
If I transfer a character with unclaimed saga rewards are they available on destination server or lost?

On my main, they stayed. I prepped a few before going, and I could take them on the new server.

[DareDelvis]

On my main, they stayed. I prepped a few before going, and I could take them on the new server.

Thanks!