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shmagmhar
01-24-2023, 08:53 AM
can we expect to get at least three archetypes per class eventually? I noticed they love the number 3 in this game . most classes in 5E have 3 Archetypes in the First players manual . I know they all added way more later . So my guess is we will get three per class

unbongwah
01-24-2023, 10:31 AM
I'm pretty sure we're going to get one archetype for every class before we get multiple archetypes for one class; so with only 6 of 15 classes with archetypes so far, it's gonna be a looong while before that happens.

Wahnsinnig
01-24-2023, 10:35 AM
42

Tyrande
01-24-2023, 10:57 AM
can we expect to get at least three archetypes per class eventually? I noticed they love the number 3 in this game . most classes in 5E have 3 Archetypes in the First players manual . I know they all added way more later . So my guess is we will get three per class

3 is a special number in MMO. Its the holy trinity. 3 selectable trees per class, not only DDO. LoTRO is the same. In fact, many other MMOs are the same.

3 also means tank/healer/DPS.

In Cantonese 3 actually means going up. 53 means "I go north" or "I go up", or "I became rich". Either one of those.


Of course, 42 is a multiple of 3. ;)

Arkat
01-24-2023, 11:07 AM
If the utility (and "fun-ness") of the current archetypes is any indication, I'd say one archetype per class is all that can reasonably be expected.

I could certainly be wrong, though.

droid327
01-24-2023, 11:13 AM
I think the only thing we can expect is that we cant expect anything

They made it clear with the first batch of archetypes that there werent necessarily any rules, and they were only going to add new ones because they thought they were cool.

So we might end up with 18 different Paladin archetypes and no Artificer ones

Fauxknight
01-24-2023, 12:27 PM
At least a year out until we have 1 archetype for each class. I wouldn't be worried about 2 or 3 quite yet, they'll probably squeeze in another major expansion at that point adding another race or class.

Firebreed
01-24-2023, 02:24 PM
I hope they don't release more than 1 per class or something close to that. No, I don't want 100 different enhancement trees, thank you. There's SO much content, and SO many ways to experience it already. Find other ways to monetize and start fixing things. Thank you.

Mindos
01-24-2023, 03:11 PM
https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/533554


Its worth noting that our goal here is NOT to make sure each class has a Archetype to start - we will be instead aiming for Archetypees that we think will be fun to build and to play with. Its possible - likely, even - that a class will end up with 2 or even 3 Archetypes before a different class gets its first.

Ereshkigal
01-25-2023, 04:23 PM
https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/533554

aye, that's what they said... but that will be a war between their OCD and their ADHD as to whether it works out that way or not :P

CherryLaBomb
01-25-2023, 04:29 PM
Can we expect to have a new completion feat when each class has one archetype?

gravisrs
01-25-2023, 05:01 PM
Archetypes will be for f2p classes only, it would be weird if you bought archetype (oh yes, archetypes will cost) of a class you don't own.

Ereshkigal
01-25-2023, 05:03 PM
Can we expect to have a new completion feat when each class has one archetype?

so far you get the benefit of additional Past Life feats, but they just count towards the base class in regards to heroic completionist.

Ereshkigal
01-25-2023, 05:06 PM
Archetypes will be for f2p classes only, it would be weird if you bought archetype (oh yes, archetypes will cost) of a class you don't own.

All classes are free to play, 3 do require a DDO point grind ( 2 of those 3 can also be accessed through a favor grind instead.)

From SSG's standpoint, getting access to an archetype when you don't have access to the main class would simply be more motivation for the player to either spend more time playing to grind out the class, or to spend money to purchase the class.

I don't see the weird.

misterski
01-25-2023, 07:00 PM
All classes are free to play, 3 do require a DDO point grind ( 2 of those 3 can also be accessed through a favor grind instead.)

From SSG's standpoint, getting access to an archetype when you don't have access to the main class would simply be more motivation for the player to either spend more time playing to grind out the class, or to spend money to purchase the class.

I don't see the weird.

I think you don't understand what free to play (F2) means . Grinding DDO points to purchase it does not equal F2P.

CherryLaBomb
01-25-2023, 07:57 PM
I think you don't understand what free to play (F2) means . Grinding DDO points to purchase it does not equal F2P.

Actually, it does. It is the bargain that we free-loader pay to play. That is the way that I have got most all packs, excluding of course the expansions and many of the goodies on my account. In return, I have had access to the game. I did not have to pay $35, which was the typical entry fee for games when I started in DDO 13+ years ago.

Ereshkigal
01-25-2023, 08:53 PM
I think you don't understand what free to play (F2) means . Grinding DDO points to purchase it does not equal F2P.

Youre free to think that of course, but you'd be mistaken.

Villefere
01-25-2023, 09:09 PM
If I know SSG we will probably get an archetype for most classes before they are abandoned for a new system.

Oxarhamar
01-25-2023, 10:33 PM
I think you don't understand what free to play (F2) means . Grinding DDO points to purchase it does not equal F2P.

indeed if points are earned from favor & not purchased with money then it is F2P

Oxarhamar
01-25-2023, 10:38 PM
I think the only thing we can expect is that we cant expect anything

They made it clear with the first batch of archetypes that there werent necessarily any rules, and they were only going to add new ones because they thought they were cool.

So we might end up with 18 different Paladin archetypes and no Artificer ones



there are a bunch of rules which are posted in the Archtype announcment & nothing to inficate that we will get 18 of one class & none of another

Oxarhamar
01-25-2023, 11:42 PM
Can we expect to have a new completion feat when each class has one archetype?

Doubt it since Archtype fall under Heroic for Completionist

thegreatcthulhu
01-26-2023, 01:21 AM
3 is a special number in MMO. Its the holy trinity. 3 selectable trees per class, not only DDO. LoTRO is the same. In fact, many other MMOs are the same.

3 also means tank/healer/DPS.

In Cantonese 3 actually means going up. 53 means "I go north" or "I go up", or "I became rich". Either one of those.


Of course, 42 is a multiple of 3. ;)

Here's another way to look at it... 42 is a multiple of 21, which is also a multiple of both 7 and 3. What is so special about 21? I guess it depends on how you look at the world.

Silliness aside, I liked this post. :)