View Full Version : Scorpions still burrowing after Update 57
CrisJolliff
11-24-2022, 11:15 AM
I'm starting a list of dungeons I 100% know that non-boss scorpions and non mini-boss scorpions are still burrowing during combat after U57 supposedly fixed this. I will return to edit this list as I find more.
The Claw of Vulkoor (The Red Fens)
(This one is REALLY brutal on Elite, because Nesting Scorpions Heal themselves and other scorpions, often while burrowing, where you cannot affect them or interrupt their casting, and their healing proc comes REALLY fast.)
marinersfan
11-24-2022, 11:33 AM
I just ran inspired quarter and can confirm the phase spiders are phasing as much, or more, than before also. This is true for every phase spider in chain 1, haven't run chain 2 yet.
I think the notes said these and the scorpions should both be less annoying, but sounds like neither actually are.
ImaginaryLogic
11-24-2022, 12:35 PM
I'm starting a list of dungeons I 100% know that non-boss scorpions and non mini-boss scorpions are still burrowing during combat after U57 supposedly fixed this. I will return to edit this list as I find more.
The Claw of Vulkoor (The Red Fens)
(This one is REALLY brutal, because Nesting Scorpions Heal themselves and other scorpions, often while burrowing, where you cannot affect them or interrupt their casting, and their healing proc comes REALLY fast.)
I'm guessing it has dungeon specific mechanics that override the generic scorpion behaviour. Really infuriating quest.
Yamato-San
11-24-2022, 01:12 PM
The annoying phase spiders in Necro 2 got successfully tamed.
For scorpions it seems like a 50% hit or miss change.
Oxarhamar
11-24-2022, 02:38 PM
The annoying phase spiders in Necro 2 got successfully tamed.
For scorpions it seems like a 50% hit or miss change.
Red name spider in Von 2 was annoyingly phasing
CrisJolliff
11-28-2022, 09:12 PM
Red name spider in Von 2 was annoyingly phasing
Yes, but the update specifically says that bosses and sub-bosses will continue to phase in melee. My problem is with non-boss creatures breaking the new rules.
CrisJolliff
11-28-2022, 09:15 PM
I just ran inspired quarter and can confirm the phase spiders are phasing as much, or more, than before also. This is true for every phase spider in chain 1, haven't run chain 2 yet.
I think the notes said these and the scorpions should both be less annoying, but sounds like neither actually are.
I'll check it out. The Update says that bosses and sub-bosses (red and orange names) will continue to be @$$#0!E monsters, but the yellows are not supposed to be allowed to do that in combat any more.
CrisJolliff
11-29-2022, 12:59 PM
Red name spider in Von 2 was annoyingly phasing
According to release notes: "...as much..." can be interpreted any number of ways, but is largely an indication that they will still phase. This thread is about SCORPIONS. Begone.
Phase spiders will no longer phase as much when going toe to toe in melee.
banwaitingtohappen
11-29-2022, 01:39 PM
Yesterday Claw on epic they were burrowing all over the place but was on ranged, and I think thats wai? (on wiz ek inquis)
Today on a ranged build the scorpions in sorrowdusk were not burrowing at all. (think the 3rd and 4th quests in that chain) . This was on ranger/arti inquis.
Cranjis
11-29-2022, 02:06 PM
I think phase spiders were fixed, but the quori stalkers were not, as those are considered outsiders rather than vermin or whatever phase spiders are.
Tyrande
11-29-2022, 02:44 PM
I think phase spiders were fixed, but the quori stalkers were not, as those are considered outsiders rather than vermin or whatever phase spiders are.
I think these Phase Spiders are phasing in and out of reality and make some adventurers and even adapt rangers don't know what type of monsters they are.
Be thankful we do not have these anonying magical beasts in epics or legendary dungeons.
I know VONS 2: Prison of the Mind on Epic still has these Quori Stalkers; but that's just one dungeon.
thedip
11-29-2022, 03:10 PM
I ran epic claw on my wolf drood after the update and all the scorpions were happily playing - now you see me, now you don't.
So nothing to do with being ranged or wizard.
droid327
01-12-2023, 09:36 AM
Stalkers use the same mechanic so they should follow the same logic when they changed it
Also it's been months and no one has posted other scorpions. Nesting scorps are obviously just the exception since their heal ability includes a burrow, it's not just a "normal" burrow like scorps used to do
GoldyGopher
01-12-2023, 09:48 AM
All the scorpions in VON3 still burrow.
Nebless
01-12-2023, 10:20 AM
non-boss scorpions and non mini-boss scorpions are still burrowing during combat after U57 supposedly fixed this.
Not sure why this is a problem that needed fixing. Ghosts phasing in and out, scorpions burrowing during combat etc.... are just part of the game, what's the problem?
spifflove
01-12-2023, 11:02 AM
Could the burrowing and phasing scale with difficulty? Oh and random umber hulk attacks from the ground please triggered by movement.
gravisrs
01-12-2023, 12:21 PM
Ghosts phasing in and out, scorpions burrowing during combat etc.... are just part of the game, what's the problem?
It was fine when the lag was low. Now when a spider/scorpion appear, you have zero-time reaction to hit it or it will phase out before your hit/spell/arrow lands on the server side.
This is one way of fixing "lag issues". Apparently it's related to specific mob AI so not everything was covered in the patch.
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