Whirlwind attack feat is busted

[Nickodeamous]

Dear Devs,

Not sure if you know this, but WWA is not a 360 attack anymore...its only hitting 180 degree hitbox. I stood back to back with the training dummy and did the spin kick and nothing...then I moved closer and closer until I hit it, which was at 180 degrees.

Just wanted to log this as it is not working. My guess is the notes that say it is a 4w attack and should be 2w attack mean that perhaps this was flip flopped with cleave.

Any confirmation on this please?

also, does not appear to be hitting 2 times. (handwrap monk here)

Thanks!
Nico

[LightBear]

Now that it no longer has spring attack as a prerequisite, it possibly isn't taking stuff from that feat into account.
Great cleave also has some weird scribbles in the release notes:
Great Cleave is now up to 4[W]. Now requires +4 BAB, Cleave, Power Attack, STR 13+. 1 hit, 4[W].

Made the confusing bit bold.

[Nickodeamous]

Now that it no longer has spring attack as a prerequisite, it possibly isn't taking stuff from that feat into account.
Great cleave also has some weird scribbles in the release notes:
Great Cleave is now up to 4[W]. Now requires +4 BAB, Cleave, Power Attack, STR 13+. 1 hit, 4[W].

Made the confusing bit bold.

Yeah it's almost like it is acting like great cleave. WWA should be a 360 aoe with 2 hits and 2w. It looks like it's the same coding as great cleave. Lol. Until SSG fixes this, it has busted my toon which relies heavily on wwa.

[droid327]

Now that it no longer has spring attack as a prerequisite, it possibly isn't taking stuff from that feat into account.
Great cleave also has some weird scribbles in the release notes:
Great Cleave is now up to 4[W]. Now requires +4 BAB, Cleave, Power Attack, STR 13+. 1 hit, 4[W].

Made the confusing bit bold.

I think they're just trying to emphasize the difference

GC is 1 hit for +4W, and I'm assuming its supposed to keep its same frontal arc (180? 270?)

WWA is supposed to be 2 hits at +2W each, in a 360 arc

Apparently what we got is WWA hitting in a 180 for +4W like GC is supposed to, though I havent seen if it hits twice for all weapons like its supposed to or if its just straight-up Great Cleave.

[droid327]

Until SSG fixes this, it has busted my toon which relies heavily on wwa.

Luckily I didnt already have a WWA character but I was very excited about the change...this promised to finally deliver viable AOE backup to SWF builds, addressing the main reason it wasnt as popular as THF for leveling and non-raiding play, and with a much more tolerable prereq chain.

But if its not 360 that changes the entire way you use it and makes it much less practical. Let mobs circle around you for 5s, doubletap them, and then swing out would be a good playstyle for melee that manages mob placement well given their AI. It'd also be really effective for proccing OHV reliably for SWF+orb spellcasters, with mobs already packed in close for guaranteed-crit AOEs. Having to herd them into a frontal arc makes for much less effective AOE and much more annoying mob management.

[Steelstar]

Dear Devs,

Not sure if you know this, but WWA is not a 360 attack anymore...its only hitting 180 degree hitbox. I stood back to back with the training dummy and did the spin kick and nothing...then I moved closer and closer until I hit it, which was at 180 degrees.

Just wanted to log this as it is not working. My guess is the notes that say it is a 4w attack and should be 2w attack mean that perhaps this was flip flopped with cleave.

Any confirmation on this please?

also, does not appear to be hitting 2 times. (handwrap monk here)

Thanks!
Nico

We'll get the hitbox size fixed in an upcoming patch (likely when the 4[w] gets fixed to 2[w]).

I'm seeing 2 really consistent hits with handwraps, but it could be something animation-specific; what race and gender is your character?

[Nickodeamous]

We'll get the hitbox size fixed in an upcoming patch (likely when the 4[w] gets fixed to 2[w]).

I'm seeing 2 really consistent hits with handwraps, but it could be something animation-specific; what race and gender is your character?

Thank you for the reply Steel! I am male aasimar handwrap monk. If you are seeing 2 hits, it could be because I just used a training dummy and at level 32, they go down fast, so maybe I am just seeing the 1 hit.

Thanks for confirming the fix coming!! Appreciate it greatly!!

Nico

[JOTMON]

Thank you for the reply Steel! I am male aasimar handwrap monk. If you are seeing 2 hits, it could be because I just used a training dummy and at level 32, they go down fast, so maybe I am just seeing the 1 hit.

Thanks for confirming the fix coming!! Appreciate it greatly!!

Nico

Taking down the dummy in one hit.... sounds like its time to Nerf monk.

[Zretch]

We'll get the hitbox size fixed in an upcoming patch (likely when the 4[w] gets fixed to 2[w]).

I'm seeing 2 really consistent hits with handwraps, but it could be something animation-specific; what race and gender is your character?

I saw 2 consistent hits with my shadar-kai handwraps monk on the airship cannon. The training dummy is pretty much worthless for testing at cap.

[Arkat]

Taking down the dummy in one hit.... sounds like its time to Nerf monk.

If you didn't post this, I was gonna post something similar!

[Nickodeamous]

If you didn't post this, I was gonna post something similar!

lol. this is a good one! lol. you guys are funny :)

Nico

[LT218]

Taking down the dummy in one hit.... sounds like its time to Nerf monk.

It can one-shot the test dummy AND hit more than 3 mobs at once (twice!)?

OMG, a level 6 monk could clear an entire room in a Korthos mission in one shot for ZERO spell points. Sounds like it's time to just delete the entire class.