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Splunge
08-26-2022, 09:26 AM
In the lamannia bank change thread, Ahpook said the following:


You may be able to remember where every item is across 5 tabs in a character bank across 14 Alts but you would be far outside the norm with that skill.

I've seen this sentiment a bunch over the years, so I thought I would share how I handle my mules in the hopes that it will help others. I have an embarrassingly large number of mules (quite a few more than 14), and I pretty much always know which mule has what I want and which tab it's on.

First, when I'm creating a mule, I make an iconic toon that can run fast and one shot a group of low level mobs. This lets me easily farm for Coin Lord and Kundarak favor so that I can have 5 inventory tabs and 3 bank tabs per mule.

I give my mules names that make it easy to figure out what they hold. Most of them hold equipment, and those are sorted by ML. Each of those mules has a name such as <base_name>aone, <base_name>btwo, <base_name>cthree, etc. This groups all of my equipment toons together on the character selection window. The letter after the base name orders them by ML. The number at the end lets me easily figure out which levels the toon holds. Originally, each toon held 3 levels of items. The first tab in both inventory and bank holds the first level of gear for that mule, the second tab in each holds the second level of gear, and the third tab in each holds the third level of gear. The last two inventory tabs hold overflow (sorted by ML) for the levels where I have more than 40 items. A few levels now have a lot of useful gear, so there are couple of levels where a mule only holds one level of gear, and there's one mule that only holds 2 levels of gear. For the latter, the inventory tabs hold one level and the bank holds the other. When I'm trying to regear for a new level, this system lets me know which 2-3 tabs on which mule hold the gear that I want.

For everything else, each mule holds a specific type of stuff. For example, I have two mules that hold crafting blanks with two augment slots. One is for armor/shields/weapons/orbs, and the other is for all other equipment. They each have a name that describes what they hold, and the items are ordered by type on the mule. For example, the second one has boots on one half of one of the tabs and gloves on the other half of the tab. I have other mules with descriptive names, such as one for holding rare scrolls, eternal wands, and tomes; one for holding cosmetics; etc. On each of those toons, I keep different types of items on different tabs so that I can easily find what I want.

Having so many mules is a real pain, especially when I'm emptying out my shared bank, since I have to log in/out of so many different toons, but I almost never have a problem finding what I want.

Tyrande
08-26-2022, 10:58 AM
Nice organization. I know a raid party member for our raiding party that he has 49 alts and only a couple mains...

good load testing for DDO, I guess?

hope this banking enhancements will alleviate some of that. Wondering why DDO does not just integrate with the Dungeon Helper tool(s)?

Splunge
08-26-2022, 11:39 AM
hope this banking enhancements will alleviate some of that.

In theory, shared storage with the new UI could replace my mules, but I would need a lot more than 8 tabs. I would also need a lot more storage than is available in the shared bank. And there's no way I would buy it for 995 DP per 10 slots. That would be 15,920 DP to replace a single mule. I would love to see it happen, though.

Whitering
08-26-2022, 12:29 PM
I have a laptop that sits right next to me and it has a notepad++ file that shows what type of item my mules carry. Got to tell you though, that I pretty much hate the bank quests at this point.

Sqrlmonger
08-26-2022, 12:50 PM
This thread explains why we so desperately need a better system with substantially more capacity.

I truly hope that is what we get, but right now I am concerned all we are getting is some shuffling of deck chairs on the Titanic. Hope I am wrong, we shall see.

Oliphant
08-26-2022, 01:09 PM
I just assign everything from certain ML bands to certain mules, so one mule has 1-9 stuff, one has 10-14 stuff, one has 15-19 stuff, one has 20-24 stuff, one has 25-28 stuff, one has 29+. That way I don't have to remember other distinctions like 'boots'. A few exceptions: one for cosmetics, one for tomes, one for xp gems.

Propane
08-26-2022, 01:49 PM
I have an embarrassingly large number of mules (quite a few more than 14), and I pretty much always know which mule has what I want and which tab it's on.


HA - I am with you.

I have gone as far as to have bank guilds!
3 of them - gear LV 1-9, 10-19, 20+.

Start a new guild - Lv the guild to 20 - get an airship - add a vault and you are good to go (2-3 pass through heroic GH saga).
An Iconic (2 rogue 13 arti) can make quick work of that content-

Oxarhamar
08-26-2022, 02:11 PM
This thread explains why we so desperately need a better system with substantially more capacity.

I truly hope that is what we get, but right now I am concerned all we are getting is some shuffling of deck chairs on the Titanic. Hope I am wrong, we shall see.

This

Zavina
08-26-2022, 04:38 PM
Oooooo a discussion about hoarding + alts..

*raises hand* Hi, I'm Z and I'm an altaholic..

On the main account, I have 3 playable characters and 45 alts.

Then there is six additional accounts.
(1) 29 alts (#30th is a bard buffer)
(2) 8
(3) 8
(4) 8
(5) 8
(6) 8

I have 16 muleships. Livmo (https://forums.ddo.com/forums/member.php/441329-Livmo) might have more...

It's been like foreverrrrr since character slots were on sale (a year, last July).

My TR partner complained a few years ago about it (all in fun), on the Orien (https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/504534-Seeking-Counseling-for-a-Hoarder-!) section.

People ask, "why do you need all that space?" Aside from needing space for my Armory (https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/489220-Lvl-400-Crafter-Available?p=6011422&viewfull=1#post6011422), I also lead a guild and we need space for items for event prizes, etc, as well as guild resources.

Mindos
08-26-2022, 06:06 PM
one for cosmetics

???

https://i.imgur.com/8gVTdMV.jpg

JOTMON
08-26-2022, 06:11 PM
*raises hand* Hi, I'm Jotmon and I'm an altaholic..

I have all 50 slots on my main account. I have degenerated from 12 playable toons to 3 with past life grinding.
This currently leave me with...
Main account - 47 alt mule accounts most of which have completed TR lives to some extent, max storage favor/purchased and TR caches for storage.
(281 slots+tr cache/toon x 47 = approx 15,000 slots)
a multitude of Colossal, gargantuan and other assorted bags. Max crafting storage , Max shared bank, also have alt accounts and alt guild ships.

adding a 20 tab of storage to an archaic system just does not cut it.
Players have been griping about poor storage for as long as I have played the game (14 years for me) and all we get is peacemeal additions to an already subpar banking system.
We need a real storage location and a real management interface for that centralized storage.


I am looking for a centralized account storage vault that allows me to consolidate all my non-BTC items on my account.
A nice management interface like the Auction house window that allows me to search/sort/filter by level, short text search, categories, etc...
A place that I can empty all my bags into, centralize all my non-BTC items, cosmetics, crafting items, augments, etc... all to be pooled into 1 location that is accessible across my account.
Not some bs 20 slot addition, I am looking to accommodate 20,000+ items...

We keep adding alt toons to store the additional items we cumulatively obtain over the years and end up spreading it all around the place instead of centralizing it.
I want to be able to burn my alt toons and extra storage spaces I have already purchased on alt mules an redirect it to expand a centralized storage vault.
Let me destroy purchased alt character slots and storage space purchased on those alt toons to expand the centralized storage space.


Perhaps it could be implemented as the groundwork for player housing...
Whatever the process.. enough with the bs patchwork nickel and dime additions and implement a large account based storage vault with a useful access interface.

C-Dog
08-29-2022, 12:47 PM
<raises hand>

Hi, I'm C-Dog, and I'm an alt-aholic.

I've always been Premium (on my main account(s)), so never treated myself to a rain of DDO Points that cry out to be spent, so no flood of character/bank slots on my main account.

I started "old school" with trying to make all my alts on my main account playable, and used them as semi-mules out of convenience. Through an old glitch my "main" account got duplicated into 2 with the same name, so I effectively started with my main Premium account with about 8 slots and an unexpected "F2P" alt account with 3 (= 11 character slots).

I was inspired by this post on "Treasure Fleet (https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/453619-The-Admiral%E2%80%99s-Guide-to-Treasure-Hoarding-(Airships-Renoun-and-Storage)?p=5501639&viewfull=1#post5501639)", and that 1 F2P account expanded to 7, plus my main (= 29 slots). Then the Catacombs Starter Pack was on sale (for a very little RL $), and all those F2P became Premium, +2 slots each. And over time Premium has granted a few new slots, so let's call it = ~45 slots. A lot, but hardly problematic.

Then two changes happened to my DDO: the "one main" paradigm began to clearly dominate the picture, and I shifted from a casual to semi-serious player, now focusing on reincarnating and gearing. That did 2 things - it (semi-)retired the bulk of my old characters to (playable) mules (with some few specialized challenge/fest runners), and invited a flood of named items that pushed non-bound gear out.

And that's when a laundry list of F2P "spill over" mule accounts started showing up in a desperate attempt to make room for bound items and keep things semi-organized. I now have an alt with a spectrum of Vorpal weapons, one with a spectrum of repeaters (with Inquisitive, another with simple cross-bows), several with blanks, one that holds Caster sticks, a dwarf with Dwaxes, one for Augments, one for cosmetics/pets/tomes/misc, another 2 for Filligrees, etc etc etc. I now have ~20 additional F2P accounts, for something like ~119 alts. (And all are semi-playable, enough to get the House K favor, and (in theory) to get through Gianthold for a free Portable Hole for that inventory slot, tho' I don't have time for (m)any of those.)


Extra banking aside (which I've addressed elsewhere (https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/532209-One-argument-for-more-storage-space?p=6519320&viewfull=1#post6519320)), one central accounting system for each account would be a huge boost to Quality of Living, just to find stuff that I "know" I have one one of the alts in a certain account, without having to manually search each one. My main account alone has something close to 1,500 slots to keep track of, and I'm clearly a piker compared to some others. Ugh. :rolleyes:

(Optimally, a way to meld that accounting system across individual accounts, a "my DDO Character Stable" page, with gear held both by alts and each shared bank. Let me add any/all of my accounts to that one location, see everything, Sort and Search at a glance - yes please!)

Oxarhamar
08-29-2022, 01:20 PM
<raises hand>

Hi, I'm C-Dog, and I'm an alt-aholic.

I've always been Premium (on my main account(s)), so never treated myself to a rain of DDO Points that cry out to be spent, so no flood of character/bank slots on my main account.

I started "old school" with trying to make all my alts on my main account playable, and used them as semi-mules out of convenience. Through an old glitch my "main" account got duplicated into 2 with the same name, so I effectively started with my main Premium account with about 8 slots and an unexpected "F2P" alt account with 3 (= 11 character slots).

I was inspired by this post on "Treasure Fleet (https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/453619-The-Admiral%E2%80%99s-Guide-to-Treasure-Hoarding-(Airships-Renoun-and-Storage)?p=5501639&viewfull=1#post5501639)", and that 1 F2P account expanded to 7, plus my main (= 29 slots). Then the Catacombs Starter Pack was on sale (for a very little RL $), and all those F2P became Premium, +2 slots each. And over time Premium has granted a few new slots, so let's call it = ~45 slots. A lot, but hardly problematic.

Then two changes happened to my DDO: the "one main" paradigm began to clearly dominate the picture, and I shifted from a casual to semi-serious player, now focusing on reincarnating and gearing. That did 2 things - it (semi-)retired the bulk of my old characters to (playable) mules (with some few specialized challenge/fest runners), and invited a flood of named items that pushed non-bound gear out.

And that's when a laundry list of F2P "spill over" mule accounts started showing up in a desperate attempt to make room for bound items and keep things semi-organized. I now have an alt with a spectrum of Vorpal weapons, one with a spectrum of repeaters (with Inquisitive, another with simple cross-bows), several with blanks, one that holds Caster sticks, a dwarf with Dwaxes, one for Augments, one for cosmetics/pets/tomes/misc, another 2 for Filligrees, etc etc etc. I now have ~20 additional F2P accounts, for something like ~119 alts. (And all are semi-playable, enough to get the House K favor, and (in theory) to get through Gianthold for a free Portable Hole for that inventory slot, tho' I don't have time for (m)any of those.)


Extra banking aside (which I've addressed elsewhere (https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/532209-One-argument-for-more-storage-space?p=6519320&viewfull=1#post6519320)), one central accounting system for each account would be a huge boost to Quality of Living, just to find stuff that I "know" I have one one of the alts in a certain account, without having to manually search each one. My main account alone has something close to 1,500 slots to keep track of, and I'm clearly a piker compared to some others. Ugh. :rolleyes:

(Optimally, a way to meld that accounting system across individual accounts, a "my DDO Character Stable" page, with gear held both by alts and each shared bank. Let me add any/all of my accounts to that one location, see everything, Sort and Search at a glance - yes please!)

Can we just convert mules into just that?

Something like if we had housing a chest with drop down of each character like the log in screen but you can open their inventory from there instead

Josielynn
08-29-2022, 02:06 PM
This thread explains why we so desperately need a better system with substantially more capacity.

I truly hope that is what we get, but right now I am concerned all we are getting is some shuffling of deck chairs on the Titanic. Hope I am wrong, we shall see.

Yep +1 - I hope you're wrong, too. More capacity is what I'd like, especially in the shared bank.

Annex
08-29-2022, 03:55 PM
Good grief. I thought I was bad.

From 2013 to 2017 I embraced the 'only what I use' storage paradigm. Each of my 8 characters stored her own stuff. My personal Daedalan Kraken stored the unbound stuff. Anything beyond that capacity was destroyed for experience or sold.

In 2019, after a long break due to illness, I leveled 10 characters to 20 and gave each one a standard level 20 equipment set for making Epic go rounds. Afterwards, I took a long break.

In 2020, I had the bright idea to start collecting all named equipment at all levels. My guild ballooned from 10 to about 30 characters. I created spreadsheets. I created better spreadsheets. I created even better spreadsheets. Progress on my avatar ground to a halt. I spent more time editing spreadsheets than playing. I took a long break.

In 2021 I pushed ahead on collecting all sorts of equipment and editing spreadsheets. It was too much. I took a long break.

In 2022 I decided enough was enough. My bank was full of named items I never used. I had not seriously played my avatar in years. Half of my play time was lost to editing spreadsheets and moving stuff around. I sold about half of all items in the Kraken guild chests. About half of all named items became sentient experience. All equipment was consolidated into generic level 4, 8, 12, 15, and 20 equipment sets. About half of all vault space was cleared. A few characters retired forever. Many spreadsheets were consolidated into one. I began leveling all characters to 32. I began collecting level 32 equipment for everyone staying at the level cap.

I wasted about 2.5 years of play time making characters to store equipment, collecting equipment, leveling storage characters, and cataloging equipment, all for nothing.

Now I have 4 goals: 1) Play my avatar as much as possible. All other characters exist for the sole purpose of advancing my avatar. 2) Create a level 32 character who can gather Reaper Experience. This character will serve as an Epic rocket booster for my avatar. 3) Level all other characters to 32 so they can easily collect equipment or otherwise help my avatar. 4) As time allows, fix other characters and make them strong.

Goal 3 is almost done. Goal 4 is underway, currently concentrating on ranged characters and unlocking account perks. Goal 2 is in planning. Goal 1 continues to flounder.

During the next 50% off storage sale I will unlock as much character storage as possible and retire more characters. I budgeted $120 US for this purpose.

If I had simply played my avatar this whole time, I would be done.

Edit: It is good I went through this reflection. The rocket booster needs to be on account 4.

Eantarus
08-29-2022, 04:04 PM
I have 16 muleships. Livmo (https://forums.ddo.com/forums/member.php/441329-Livmo) might have more...


What do you do with muleships? Every single item worth having is BtA.

Oliphant
08-29-2022, 04:35 PM
???

https://i.imgur.com/8gVTdMV.jpg

I gotta be lookin good out here!

C-Dog
08-30-2022, 12:05 AM
Every single item worth having is BtA.
Really? Tomes, augments, Filigrees, Vorpal weapons, double-slot blanks, every last named item...? Do say... :rolleyes:

Aelonwy
08-30-2022, 11:08 AM
I have gone as far as to have bank guilds!
3 of them - gear LV 1-9, 10-19, 20+.




I have 16 muleships. Livmo (https://forums.ddo.com/forums/member.php/441329-Livmo) might have more...



Main account - 47 alt mule accounts most of which have completed TR lives to some extent, max storage favor/purchased and TR caches for storage.
(281 slots+tr cache/toon x 47 = approx 15,000 slots)
a multitude of Colossal, gargantuan and other assorted bags. Max crafting storage , Max shared bank, also have alt accounts and alt guild ships.

Great googa mooga! I... I thought I was an altaholic. I will now turn in both my altaholic card and my hoarder card, apparently I don't qualify. I have 14 playable characters, yes none are min-maxed, none would survive so much as 5 minutes in epic reaper, few would survive a legendary elite raid. But I have fun playing them on the difficulties I regularly play, at least I have fun playing them until the devs do voodoo-pin nerfs to them.

Currently I have 9 storage characters.
Level 1-7 loot
level 8-14 loot
level 15-20 loot
level 21-28 loot
level 29 loot (gosh darn there is a lot here, a retired HC character S3)
level 30+ loot (just beginning to fill... also a retired HC character S4)
Crafting blanks, new & retro-fitted
Cosmetics (don't judge me)
Retired Haggle Bard that holds all DD pots and prizes, wands, feat exchange shards, unused tomes, miscellany

I also have a level 12 event running character, that's all she does and she holds event ingredients and anything associated with said events

I have never had nor can conceptualize mule guilds or the spreadsheets and time necessary to organize and keep up with that. I thought I was way over doing it with the above.

EDIT: I can see why some people might be against server merges if they had to deal with spare guilds where they keep all their stuff. Again I'm just flabbergasted by the effort to organize and hold onto so much.

krimsonrane
08-30-2022, 03:26 PM
I just assign everything from certain ML bands to certain mules, so one mule has 1-9 stuff, one has 10-14 stuff, one has 15-19 stuff, one has 20-24 stuff, one has 25-28 stuff, one has 29+. That way I don't have to remember other distinctions like 'boots'. A few exceptions: one for cosmetics, one for tomes, one for xp gems.

I did that until I started needing 2-3 mules for particular levels. Especially level 28-32 gear. We keep getting updates with new gear and absolutely NOWHERE to put it. People say "Throw it out", but if you're grinding for weeks to get stuffz the last thing you want to do is be forced to grind again because the game has no capacity for storage.

Eantarus
08-30-2022, 03:40 PM
Really? Tomes, augments, Filigrees, Vorpal weapons, double-slot blanks, every last named item...? Do say... :rolleyes:

Augments and fligrees go into the shared bank crafting storage. If you have enough unbound tomes(the majority are BtA), vorpals, and crafting blanks to fill up 8 ships... great, I guess? That's A LOT of those things. I've got 1 external mule for crafting blanks, and my tome collection(bound and unbound) barely fills up half an inventory bag.

C-Dog
08-30-2022, 05:21 PM
Augments and fligrees go into the shared bank crafting storage...
My crafting mats fill up my crafting storage. ("Only" 262 slots, but still, there's zero room for 100+ diff types of augments, or 200+ types of filigrees (before Rares). :rolleyes:)


... and my tome collection(bound and unbound) barely fills up half an inventory bag.
I don't have a tome bag. :( :cool:

Livmo
09-13-2022, 08:19 PM
Oooooo a discussion about hoarding + alts..

*raises hand* Hi, I'm Z and I'm an altaholic..

On the main account, I have 3 playable characters and 45 alts.

Then there is six additional accounts.
(1) 29 alts (#30th is a bard buffer)
(2) 8
(3) 8
(4) 8
(5) 8
(6) 8

I have 16 muleships. Livmo (https://forums.ddo.com/forums/member.php/441329-Livmo) might have more...

It's been like foreverrrrr since character slots were on sale (a year, last July).

My TR partner complained a few years ago about it (all in fun), on the Orien (https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/504534-Seeking-Counseling-for-a-Hoarder-!) section.

People ask, "why do you need all that space?" Aside from needing space for my Armory (https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/489220-Lvl-400-Crafter-Available?p=6011422&viewfull=1#post6011422), I also lead a guild and we need space for items for event prizes, etc, as well as guild resources.

Also hoarding is allot of fun, because when someone is in need, I have the item indeed :D

Better to give than to receive:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iki6oDgPf48

Eantarus
09-13-2022, 08:38 PM
My crafting mats fill up my crafting storage. ("Only" 262 slots, but still, there's zero room for 100+ diff types of augments, or 200+ types of filigrees (before Rares). :rolleyes:)


Shared bank goes up to 2,045 slots. In the time you've spent grinding favor and renown to buy entire airships just for storage, you could easily have ground favor points for expanding the shared bank(not to mention simply gone out and gotten a part-time job, that is a SERIOUS amount of grind to make "mule ships").

Livmo
09-13-2022, 09:50 PM
Shared bank goes up to 2,045 slots. In the time you've spent grinding favor and renown to buy entire airships just for storage, you could easily have ground favor points for expanding the shared bank(not to mention simply gone out and gotten a part-time job, that is a SERIOUS amount of grind to make "mule ships").

It depends.

If you mult-box 6 accounts in one group at the same time you can easily level 6 guilds to 19 for Guild Storage I.

Please note there is a daily guild level cap and to get past that you need to turn in sagas.

Just an example of lowbies doing VoM and renoun. Didn't have a picture of the epic crew handy for the sagas:
https://i.imgur.com/Dx8N9Tx.jpg

Livmo
09-13-2022, 10:03 PM
For those that followed the thread on the loot ships before it was deleted, here's a hair dye update:

https://i.imgur.com/LtskZDp.jpg




Also made a ship full of candy canes and another full of chocolates :D

Livmo
09-13-2022, 10:14 PM
2 short on the flower boat : ) )

https://i.imgur.com/vuQg4AM.jpg

Zavina
09-14-2022, 11:23 AM
What do you do with muleships? Every single item worth having is BtA.

Just seen your message, or I'd have answered sooner.

I have possibly the largest collection of craftable blanks for cannith crafting in the entire DDO community. They all have to go someplace (see my signature for a link to the list); and it's growing all the time.

Further, I'm also a guild leader and provide resources to my guild members. This includes rare scrolls (wizard/arti) for them to scribe, feat stones, hair dyes, etc. Also event prizes too has their own muleship of which guild members contribute to. I have a muleship for rare cosmetics that people come to me (and provide collateral, deters the "oh i accidentally bound it to me" or the "my internet went out" excuses) to grab copy of (they can have their collateral back once the item is returned). Another muleship has a sales toon attached to it. Might do some sales in trade channel, "here ye, here ye.."

A potion & scroll ship, containing silver dice roll potions, through to deadly and d-door scrolls.. the list goes on.

I collect so much useable stuff and hoard it away. Even have a muleship full of ToEE blanks (something like 420 pieces in storage), that no doubt I'll get approached for at some point to grab a cosmetic thereof (now that the ToEE crafting is essentially defunct).

C-Dog
09-14-2022, 12:42 PM
For those that followed the thread on the loot ships before it was deleted...
It wasn't deleted!

A short while ago, the forum software got upgraded. "Most"(?) links are redirected automatically, but some require a manual fix:

Just change the "www" in any old link to the word "forums", thus:

https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/453619-The-Admiral%E2%80%99s-Guide-to-Treasure-Hoarding-(Airships-Renoun-and-Storage)?p=5501639&viewfull=1#post5501639

Pic of previous hair-dye ship chest: https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/453619-The-Admiral%E2%80%99s-Guide-to-Treasure-Hoarding-(Airships-Renoun-and-Storage)?p=5853072&viewfull=1#post5853072

Livmo
09-14-2022, 09:36 PM
It wasn't deleted!

A short while ago, the forum software got upgraded. "Most"(?) links are redirected automatically, but some require a manual fix:

Just change the "www" in any old link to the word "forums", thus:

https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/453619-The-Admiral%E2%80%99s-Guide-to-Treasure-Hoarding-(Airships-Renoun-and-Storage)?p=5501639&viewfull=1#post5501639

Pic of previous hair-dye ship chest: https://forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/453619-The-Admiral%E2%80%99s-Guide-to-Treasure-Hoarding-(Airships-Renoun-and-Storage)?p=5853072&viewfull=1#post5853072

I updated my desktop link and it worked woot woot! Thank you for the awesome!

Dang the silver hair dyes are far outpacing the others in the lootz!

:D


Just seen your message, or I'd have answered sooner.

I have possibly the largest collection of craftable blanks for cannith crafting in the entire DDO community. They all have to go someplace (see my signature for a link to the list); and it's growing all the time.

Further, I'm also a guild leader and provide resources to my guild members. This includes rare scrolls (wizard/arti) for them to scribe, feat stones, hair dyes, etc. Also event prizes too has their own muleship of which guild members contribute to. I have a muleship for rare cosmetics that people come to me (and provide collateral, deters the "oh i accidentally bound it to me" or the "my internet went out" excuses) to grab copy of (they can have their collateral back once the item is returned). Another muleship has a sales toon attached to it. Might do some sales in trade channel, "here ye, here ye.."

A potion & scroll ship, containing silver dice roll potions, through to deadly and d-door scrolls.. the list goes on.

I collect so much useable stuff and hoard it away. Even have a muleship full of ToEE blanks (something like 420 pieces in storage), that no doubt I'll get approached for at some point to grab a cosmetic thereof (now that the ToEE crafting is essentially defunct).

I have ships for all of those in gold.

I did cash in my ToEE weapon ship full of epics to level a sentient weapon up. Need to see what the revamped ToEE is all about and replenish a few.

Livmo
09-14-2022, 10:01 PM
I don't always put amenities on the ships other than storage, because I don't visit them often.

I park the alts that collect from the shared banks in Saltmarsh. Why? Because when you need to take a loot **** on one of the guild ships the portal is right there next to the bank!

Saltmarsh reminds of the old buffs in the ship hold and everything is easy reach. Plus it's allot more lively in Saltmarsh than the old ship holds.

Not full yet, but an example:


https://i.imgur.com/oJ1NUoy.jpg

C-Dog
09-15-2022, 01:26 PM
Dang the silver hair dyes are far outpacing the others in the lootz!

:D
Most seem to have pushed from single digits over to double - but you never know when you'll need to give a dozen alts rose-colored hair! :cool:

Livmo
09-15-2022, 09:10 PM
Most seem to have pushed from single digits over to double - but you never know when you'll need to give a dozen alts rose-colored hair! :cool:

Also you just gave me an idea.


A new storage guild with ship
All the toons dye their hair silver
I name the guild Silver Panthers
Store metal weapon crafting blanks on the ship


I don't think I have enough silver weapon blanks to fill 80 slots in Guild Storage I : ) ) Thus the all metal crafting ship.

Now what the should I name the ship? I'm leaning towards this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdTFeW8FCto

DRoark
09-15-2022, 09:37 PM
There's a staggering lack of storage, considering the number of items in the game. The new "list" style of the personal bank made organization worse.
At a bare minimum, there needs to be a way to toggle the OLD style back on, and put augments and filigrees in the shared crafting storage. They need
to do MUCH more than that, though, since the current capacity of the bank is getting to be a joke.

Annex
09-15-2022, 11:18 PM
With the current storage sale underway I decided to purchase more space, shuffle everything into tabs (again), and retire some characters.

So far, I've retired 4 characters in two hours and cleared two additional bags worth of space for a net storage gain. The storage expansion leaves me with tons of additional space available for purchase. Less characters means easier shuffling and faster access to stuff.

The tabs are working okay for me.