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Agr33n3
07-11-2022, 06:22 PM
Phloat here from Argonesson.

I'm circling back to Alchemist after at least a year break, and fondly remember playthrough from 12-30, but less so from 1-6.

The goal here is DPS and DC's, with enough healing to spot-heal. I enjoy healers, but this build won't be one.

Stats: Max INT, max CON, a few into STR because I like to carry a lot.

Skills: Max Spellcraft, max heal, max UMD, spot, search, balance

Enhancements: 80 APs
41 Bombadier - T5 and Capstone, all Efficient Metamagics
25 Falconry - Helpless damage, Healing Amp, 5% Quality HP, Sprint Boost
14 Feydark - Color Spray and INT.

Epic Destinies: 62 APs
38 Primal Avatar - Mantle, Epic Strike and Shard Storm, Mass Frog,
24 Draconic Incarnation - Epic Strike, Coalescence, Pull from the Wellspring, Gaping Maw or Epic Improved Maximize.

Agr33n3
07-13-2022, 09:37 PM
Here is a more in-depth write up of the previous build.

I had a few thoughts about epic destinies: I weighted getting double duration on wellspring versus more SP from Magus. I leaned towards Magus instead.

If you have some racial points, use them and drop INT if necessary to get what you want.

I will be doing this as an Aasimar, because racial PL.

Acid Alchemist:

Stats: Max Int, max con, a few in Str

Skills: Spellcraft, Heal, UMD, Spot, Search, Balance

Feats:
1) Maximize
3) Quicken
4) Alchemist Bonus: Alchemical Studies: Pyrite
6) Completionist
8) Insightful Courage
9) Past Life: Wizard
12) Spell Focus: Conjuration or Toughness
12) Alchemist Bonus: Accelerate
15) Mental Toughness
16) Alchemist Bonus: Advanced Alchemical Studies: Pyrite
18) Heighten
20) Improved Mental Toughness or Empower
21) Epic: Wellspring of Power
22) Destiny: Epic Spellpower: Acid
24) Epic: Epic Toughness or Epic Spellpower: Poison
25) Destiny: Crush Weakness
27) Epic: Embolden Spell
28) Destiny: Deific Warding
30) Epic: Intensify
30) Scion of the Plane of Earth
31) Legendary Toughness or Epic Mental Toughness


Enhancements: 80 AP

41 Bombadier: cores 1-6
T1: 3x Magical Subtlety, Spell Critical I
T2: 3x Efficient Maximize, Spell Critical II, Stone of the Savant
T3: 3x Efficient Quicken or Empower, INT,
T4: 2x Efficient Heighten, Burning Ambition
T5: 3x Elemental Obliteration, Augmentation, Inferno of Creation, Conjuration Focus, Weakening Mixture

23 Falconry: aiming for Helpless damage
T1: 3x Out in Nature, 3x Rugged, 3x Wanderlust
T2: 3x Spring Boost
T3: Conditioning, Eyes of the Eagle
T4: 3x No Mercy

16 Feydark Illusionist: Color Spray and other defenses
T1: 3x Study the Arcane, 1x Feydark Explorer
T2: You've Got My Back, 2x Reality Bulwark
T3: INT, Magical Attunement I


Epic Destinies: 62 AP

38 Primal Avatar: cores 1-4
T1: Carrion Swarm, Rejuvenation Cocoon
T2: 3x Mantle of Nature: Thorn, Primal Spell: Shard Storm, Thrive
T3: 3x Evergreen, 3x Conjuration DCs, At Its Core: Thorn
T4: 3x Efficient Maximize, 2x Efficient Empower, Nature's Blessing
T5: 3x Ancient Wisdom, Mass Frog, 3x Efficient Intensify

14 Draconic Incarnation: for spell cost reduction, DCs and no-fail Fort
T1: 3x Dragonhide, 2x Draconic Perception
T2: 3x Coalescence
T3: 3x Transmutation DCs

8 Magus of the Eclypse: for the 10% sp pool, no-fail Will, and reduced threat
T1: 3x Impregnable Mind, 3x Imperceptible Casting

Agr33n3
07-15-2022, 11:17 PM
Here is roughly what I will run at cap (I don't have IoD). There is definitely room to improve, but I tried to minimize raid gear and throw in some neat pieces I had in my TR cache. My initial thought was to go 7-piece Autumn and 4-piece Winter. Note that I slot an -10% ASF augment to account for my light armor. If I ran more KT, I could swap around to use the 2-piece Acid set (cloak + bracers). Another day.

20 Alchemist, Acid dps spammer

Gear 1: Cloth armor, 3-piece Esoteric (E), 4-piece Winter (W), 4-piece Autumn (A)

Main Hand: Legendary Fusible Scepter of Corrosion
Offhand: The Heart of the Prince (winter 1)

Armor: Leg. Order's Garb (E 1)
Belt: Strap of Autumn Leaves (A 1, W 2)
Boots: Leg. Windriders (A 2)
Bracers: Leg. Aetherband (E 2)
Cloak: Legendary Cloak of Autumn (A 3)
Gloves: Gauntlets of the Arcane Soldier
Goggles: Leg. Dusk Lenses (E 3)
Helm: Legendary Crown of Snow (W 3)
Necklace: Celestial Insignia (A 4)
Ring 1: Leg. Nocturne Ring (W 4)
Ring 2: Leg. Ring of Chances (with Ins Int. Aug)
Trinket: Legendary Bottle of Shadows or Legendary Conduit of the Arcane


Gear 2: Light armor, 3-piece Dreamer (D), 4-piece Winter (W), 5-piece Autumn (A)

Main Hand: Legendary Fusible Scepter of Corrosion
Offhand: The Heart of the Prince (winter 1)

Armor:Leg. Feycraft Mail (D 1)
Belt: Strap of Autumn Leaves (A 2, W 2)
Boots: Leg. Deepsnow Boots (W 3)
Bracers: Leg. Green Draconscale Bracers (A 3)
Cloak: Leg. Gossamer Weave (D 2)
Gloces: Leg. Delicate Thimbletips (D 3)
Goggles: Leg. Dusk Lenses
Helm: Leg. Crown of Snow (W 4)
Necklace: Celestial Insignia (A 4)
Ring 1: Leg. Ring of Changes (with Ins Int. Aug)
Ring 2: Leg. Ring of Fall's Decay (A 5)
Trinket: Leg. Chaos in a Bottle

(Edited the 7/18)

mr420247
07-16-2022, 07:06 PM
Looks like fun if you can legendary gear i'd say look at legendary red dragon von armor for even more fun

Here its still tops after all the nerfs so thats saying something

Agr33n3
07-16-2022, 10:04 PM
Looks like fun if you can legendary gear i'd say look at legendary red dragon von armor for even more fun

Here its still tops after all the nerfs so thats saying something

I've heard the fire proc is useful. I don't do a ton of endgame crafting, mostly just raiding for items.

How does that Red Dragon armor proc compare to getting 5% exceptional spell crit and 15 exceptional s.p. from the Autumn armor, as well as 6% acid crit and 30 acid s.p. from the KT set, which is cloak and bracers? I'd have to use an Autumn trinket, the only one of which is a raid item too.

So, crafting from heroic to epic, legendary, and perfected, or get 2 KT items and 1 Dryad item?

Whitering
07-27-2022, 09:36 AM
I used Primal, I really, really tried it, and went to T5 Primal, but skipped the mantle and the epic strike in favour of Draconic. Every 5 seconds, and this is from the mantle, you do mega kill everything in Reaper 3-4 with one multivial damage. The Epic strike is a oh my god, they are still alive and on me now and I can't strafe out of this, boom, you are dead button.

I use updated gear, Walking and Deacon with double winter maybe making an appearance but for R3-4 I don't and end up using just the winter boots and other items providing really nice bonuses I didn't get on the rest of my gear.

Kodwraith
07-29-2022, 03:42 PM
I run something very very similar on my main for my second Dborn life. It was slow at first and then destroyed everything past about level 10.

I just ETR:ed but I was running the Esoteric Initiate sharn set + 4 piece Winter plus three pieces of Autumn. I had around 763 self buffed Acid sp without a reaction spike. With the Primal Mantle, I basically never ran out of spell points ever even with every metamagic turned on all the time. I think I had 43 in Primal, 20 odd in Draconic and one point in eclipse.

mr420247
08-17-2022, 10:42 AM
Tested the magus ice aoe with incorp and took the fear dcs for di dragon breath not a bad survival tool if you care about maxing your incorp with sdk n gear

Should be just enough points left for your 3'rd tree if you have all 72 d points now thats with 30 di + 22 primal just enough for ur evasion then rest 3'rd tree

For low levels the apothecary core 2 harm sla aoe nukes low level mobs cheap combined with some acid for most of the immunes

Whitering
08-21-2022, 09:07 AM
I run something very very similar on my main for my second Dborn life. It was slow at first and then destroyed everything past about level 10.

I just ETR:ed but I was running the Esoteric Initiate sharn set + 4 piece Winter plus three pieces of Autumn. I had around 763 self buffed Acid sp without a reaction spike. With the Primal Mantle, I basically never ran out of spell points ever even with every metamagic turned on all the time. I think I had 43 in Primal, 20 odd in Draconic and one point in eclipse.

You start in the melee tree for alchemist, don't launch vials until level 12 or later.