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Oliphant
01-19-2022, 12:51 AM
I have a bomber Alch going at cap. Acid/Poison/PA mantle with EA and Shiradi back up. Have 7 Autumn going for the Legendary spell crit damage. Have two LGS equipment items for Acid and Poison crit damage. Mainly using an Ash stick for MRR debuffs. Using the PA Acid/Poison attack. I'm using the big attack spells and destiny attacks and the ones that do PRR and MRR debuffs mainly. I've got every lore type of gear for Acid that exists except the exceptional universal on Clouded Dreams.

Overall, I'm just not getting the "clearing rooms on R10" vibes people talk about on the forums.

What spell power, crit chance and crit damage stats can Alch achieve lately?
Am I low? Where is the gap mainly, in my spell power or my lore chance?

For Acid I have:
~800+ Acid Power ~50+ Acid Crit Chance ~+100 Acid Damage Multiplier

Poison is similar but Poison spell power is a bit lower.

mr420247
01-19-2022, 10:43 AM
Think the gap is mostly from u50 thats about all nothing to do but wait for dread xpac to hit and obsolete everything again

And we lost alot with the ravenloft belts nerf and all the rest

You don't mention your filigree setups either if your willing to go all out shiradi can tweak some things

5 ds + 3 serpent more poison crit multiplier - 4 2 conj n trans dcs, + elemental avatar for more crits so can have 2 clubs

your dc n your dps you also don't mention your metas and your epic feats so guessing 800 + 300 + alch boost + reaper boost + your multiplier boosts

The mm sla can be great for bosses again too now like 10 ruins free when they proc they can proc big

Oliphant
01-19-2022, 04:42 PM
Have DC 108 or 114 in Reaper. Missing +2 quality bonus from gear to make current tetris work. Using quicken, accelerate, maximize, empower, intensify, embolden, heighten. Feats are all Alch color boosts that affect red spells, not taking evasion feat and getting it with EDs, +3 conjuration, poison/acid/negative epic spell power, Earth Scion. Pretty much everything I could do for conj DC or spell power. My filigrees are Beholder for DCs but did some hedging with the Nystuls/Voltaic set (if I have that second name right) for more MRR cap and electric absorb.

Math on lower tier Prism and add-ons don't seem better than the PA mantle. Is the super Shiradi proc come mainly with Inexorable Advance Tier 5 stuff?

Oliphant
01-20-2022, 10:26 AM
Mainly curious what spell lore numbers are realistic. Seems like 50 spell lore is low while my spell power and crit damage seem in the ball park.

mr420247
01-20-2022, 11:26 AM
3 autumn and sands sets can stack for now not sure if its wai

And ofc elders if you can legendary it

Oliphant
01-29-2022, 04:59 AM
Currently at endgame with Alch Poison lore at 41 and Crit Damage multiplier at 107. I don't have any DC clickies other than reaper potency. My Conj DC standing in public with buffs in Pyrite is 112, no clickie. I can't see many ways other than remnant and yugo pots to get DCs up. I'm using Sickle of Vile Atunement for poison spell power and lore. Not many other items seem to exist to boost the lore and 41% crit chance is lower than I was expecting for endgame bombardier. Feats are maxing spell power and Conj DCs except no clickies or INT boost feats.

EDs are 33 PA, 14 Shiradi, 15 EA

Is 41 lore, 107 crit damage, 112 DC about what I can expect or more to do? My gear seems pretty saturated, hard to push it much more. My standing public INT is 98. Should I try something else or make a tweak? Better to build an LGS super set thing?

4x Serpent filigrees (+2 conj)
5x Nystuls filigrees (+100 HP, +40 MRR cap)
4x Behlolder filigrees (+2 DCs)

At 1610 HP standing in public, should I give up Nystuls filigrees for more spell offense and how exactly?

Gear with a few mispellins:

Dusk Lenses
Order Garb
Aether Band
Clouded Dreams
Shattered Onyx (INT)
Black Satin Belt (INT)
Zarwash minor artifact
Glorborne Gloves
Snow Boots
LGS +35 Poison Crit Damage cloak
Sickle of Vile Attunement
Elder's Cap
Gem of Many Facets
Ash/Salt LGS offhand swaps
Quiver of Alarcity
+12 CON augment
+2 Festive augments
+1 True Globe augment
+2 Litany augment

Oliphant
01-29-2022, 12:34 PM
Testing swapping out Nystuls for Draconic Soul for CD and crit damage and squeezed in 2 more INT. Still would better to pump crit chance but will keep thinking about it. Also testing swapping out Apothecary for Falconry for more CON (+1 to even), HP, helpless damage. Was nice getting the HP back with Falconry. Will see if my healing is overly nerfed now. Relying Alch spells only (no Alch SLAs now), healing pillar, cocoon and healing spring now, kind of sketchy they way I have it set up right now. We'll see.

100 INT
113 Conj
41 Poison lore / 117 crit damage
37 Negative lore / 85 crit damage
29 Acid lore / 77 crit damage

Ultinoob
02-04-2022, 04:10 PM
Maybe you know this but this post gives a good idea about what stacks: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/526726-Max-Spell-Crits-is-100-still-possible?highlight=fire+crit+chance

i see in your gear you are "missing" artifact to acid which you can get from some set items. Not sure it is worth it though.

Just a thought.