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Firebreed
09-14-2021, 06:11 AM
Has anybody seen the Mythic version of any of the epic Necro 4 helms recently (past year or two)?
I don't mean a mythic bonus on the epic helms, but rather something like this (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Mythic_Muffled_Veneer).
Or is the wiki right and they are no longer available as drops?

Thanks.

Oxarhamar
09-14-2021, 06:13 AM
Has anybody seen the Mythic version of any of the epic Necro 4 helms recently (past year or two)?
I don't mean a mythic bonus on the epic helms, but rather something like this (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Mythic_Muffled_Veneer).
Or is the wiki right and they are no longer available as drops?

Thanks.

These come from turn in not from a chest drop so they don’t mythic

Firebreed
09-14-2021, 06:21 AM
These come from turn in not from a chest drop so they don’t mythic

I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.
I always thought these versions of the helms dropped in the same chest the usual epic version did, just much more rarely.
I'm not asking about whether they can have mythic bonuses. I know the epic versions can have them. The question is if the Mythic version of the helms (NOT the epic version with a mythic bonus, see link above) still drops or not. I'm not aware of any turn-in offering these items as a reward.

Oxarhamar
09-14-2021, 06:45 AM
I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.
I always thought these versions of the helms dropped in the same chest the usual epic version did, just much more rarely.
I'm not asking about whether they can have mythic bonuses. I know the epic versions can have them. The question is if the Mythic version of the helms (NOT the epic version with a mythic bonus, see link above) still drops or not. I'm not aware of any turn-in offering these items as a reward.

I mistook this for the tapestry turn in helm

Mindos
09-14-2021, 09:03 AM
This would be very lame if they didn't drop anymore. Since these mythic versions had DIFFERENT stats. For example, the mythic minos legens has 5 more vitality, 6 more sheltering, and 3 insightful con then the epic version does.

https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Epic_Minos_Legens
https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Mythic_Minos_Legens

slarden
09-14-2021, 10:32 AM
I had one drop shortly before the stat squish. I don't think the stat squish would have any impact on drop rates.

AbyssalMage
09-15-2021, 02:20 AM
This would be very lame if they didn't drop anymore. Since these mythic versions had DIFFERENT stats. For example, the mythic minos legens has 5 more vitality, 6 more sheltering, and 3 insightful con then the epic version does.

https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Epic_Minos_Legens
https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Mythic_Minos_Legens
I don't remember anything posted in an update. So unless something was said on a Wednesday Live stream (or similar) that may just be a "red herring" because I remember those helms were super rare* and many people on the forums chasing them. I think the only way we will get an accurate answer is either through a developer or someone accidentally getting one while flagging for MoD who reads this thread.

* - Think Jibbers rare...

Faltout
09-16-2021, 08:28 AM
The removal of those helms (and all items with Mythic in their title except the one orb in Mask of Deception) was noticed by someone that looked into the treasure tables and they claim it happened with Update 34 when "Mythic bonus" was added to all named items. This has not been disputed since by someone that has gotten those items.

Firebreed
09-20-2021, 08:11 AM
The removal of those helms (and all items with Mythic in their title except the one orb in Mask of Deception) was noticed by someone that looked into the treasure tables and they claim it happened with Update 34 when "Mythic bonus" was added to all named items. This has not been disputed since by someone that has gotten those items.

Interesting, I could swear I've heard people mention they've gotten these versions of the helms even after U34. If anyone recalls having one drop since 2017, please chime in.

Mindos
09-20-2021, 10:56 AM
I had one drop shortly before the stat squish. I don't think the stat squish would have any impact on drop rates.


Interesting, I could swear I've heard people mention they've gotten these versions of the helms even after U34. If anyone recalls having one drop since 2017, please chime in.

So there we go!