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Nate1776
08-29-2021, 08:56 AM
Recently I decided to run Haunted halls of eveningstar to get a few of the named drops and upgrade them for lvling gear. I instantly noticed that it was not worth it. On EE I am getting 7 to 9 black stones per run at about 70 I ransacked. keep in mind you need 150 of them for 1 item upgrade. So if I wanted to upgrade just one item it would take me 3 weeks of farming.
I know that the black stones are tradable but because it is older content not many people are running it and there has been exactly 0 on the AH/SE for 2 weeks now. The length of time to upgrade the items from this content which is not endgame any longer seems very excessive. I love the eveningstar content it is by far my favorite content but not that many people are there because most of the gear is outdated.
To sum up I was wondering if you could take a look at it and possibly decrease the cost of upgrading or increase the drop rate.
Personally I feel that 1 ransacking of that quest is adequate for upgrading the named loot from that quest. I would however be happy if you just took a look at it and told me what you think.

Oxarhamar
08-29-2021, 09:22 AM
Recently I decided to run Haunted halls of eveningstar to get a few of the named drops and upgrade them for lvling gear. I instantly noticed that it was not worth it. On EE I am getting 7 to 9 black stones per run at about 70 I ransacked. keep in mind you need 150 of them for 1 item upgrade. So if I wanted to upgrade just one item it would take me 3 weeks of farming.
I know that the black stones are tradable but because it is older content not many people are running it and there has been exactly 0 on the AH/SE for 2 weeks now. The length of time to upgrade the items from this content which is not endgame any longer seems very excessive. I love the eveningstar content it is by far my favorite content but not that many people are there because most of the gear is outdated.
To sum up I was wondering if you could take a look at it and possibly decrease the cost of upgrading or increase the drop rate.
Personally I feel that 1 ransacking of that quest is adequate for upgrading the named loot from that quest. I would however be happy if you just took a look at it and told me what you think.

One ransack to upgrade an item is too easy but it can be done in less with other players passing stones
stones being tradeable as well as the loot which made HHoE the best for having tradeable loot that was desirable more packs should have been like HHoE loot

Stones are not on the auction house is a different problem with the game economy

Marshal_Lannes
08-29-2021, 09:31 AM
I believe there are more stones in the chest after the dragon fight (which you can access after doing the quest once). These items were always difficult to upgrade requiring many runs. It might be easier to upgrade them today since people don't want the items anymore. From my experience, this quest always fills when put into an LFM. Good XP, and let's face it, this adventure is brilliant. I'm sure if you tell your party that you need black stones nearly everyone will pass to you.

Ghwyn
08-29-2021, 10:46 AM
I really love HH and join up most that I see. Your should put up lfm's asking to pass the stones. I know I would.

Saekee
08-29-2021, 01:42 PM
Post on your server forum that you WTB black stones
Post an LFM when you are live range 1-30 WTB black stones from Haunted Halls

TitusOvid
08-29-2021, 04:27 PM
Post on your server forum that you WTB black stones
Post an LFM when you are live range 1-30 WTB black stones from Haunted Halls


Yep, what is your server?

Cheers,
Titus

Zavina
08-29-2021, 07:41 PM
Recently I decided to run Haunted halls of eveningstar to get a few of the named drops and upgrade them for lvling gear. I instantly noticed that it was not worth it. On EE I am getting 7 to 9 black stones per run at about 70 I ransacked. keep in mind you need 150 of them for 1 item upgrade. So if I wanted to upgrade just one item it would take me 3 weeks of farming.
I know that the black stones are tradable but because it is older content not many people are running it and there has been exactly 0 on the AH/SE for 2 weeks now. The length of time to upgrade the items from this content which is not endgame any longer seems very excessive. I love the eveningstar content it is by far my favorite content but not that many people are there because most of the gear is outdated.
To sum up I was wondering if you could take a look at it and possibly decrease the cost of upgrading or increase the drop rate.
Personally I feel that 1 ransacking of that quest is adequate for upgrading the named loot from that quest. I would however be happy if you just took a look at it and told me what you think.

As people have said, post for the LFM. It's an old fav.

On Orien.. (as you haven't given your server)
https://i.imgur.com/Jl0l1cE.jpg

Alrik_Fassbauer
08-30-2021, 11:31 AM
The haunted halls are something I'll probbly see from the inside, like all that exclusive legendary stuff.
There are so many quests remade for epics now, but the opposite just never happens.

anangel22
08-30-2021, 09:06 PM
The haunted halls are something I'll probbly see from the inside, like all that exclusive legendary stuff.
There are so many quests remade for epics now, but the opposite just never happens.

your choice, your problem.

Nate1776
09-04-2021, 04:02 AM
One ransack to upgrade an item is too easy but it can be done in less with other players passing stones
stones being tradeable as well as the loot which made HHoE the best for having tradeable loot that was desirable more packs should have been like HHoE loot

Stones are not on the auction house is a different problem with the game economy

thank you very much. i however forgot to mention that the 70 stones i received were with me running 2 accounts to ransack. so if i was running just one account like most people it would take me it would take me 5 weeks aprox. however i feel that i received good advice from you all and i may have to bite a bullet and drop an lfm to fill the party. thank you again

Nate1776
09-04-2021, 04:04 AM
As people have said, post for the LFM. It's an old fav.

On Orien.. (as you haven't given your server)
https://i.imgur.com/Jl0l1cE.jpg
thank you. you are very kind however i am on adar forgot sarlona we merged long time ago.

Nate1776
09-04-2021, 04:05 AM
Yep, what is your server?

Cheers,
Titus

i am on sarlona

Nate1776
09-04-2021, 04:06 AM
Post on your server forum that you WTB black stones
Post an LFM when you are live range 1-30 WTB black stones from Haunted Halls

thank you for the advice. i am going to try it. wish me luck.

Nate1776
09-04-2021, 04:09 AM
I believe there are more stones in the chest after the dragon fight (which you can access after doing the quest once). These items were always difficult to upgrade requiring many runs. It might be easier to upgrade them today since people don't want the items anymore. From my experience, this quest always fills when put into an LFM. Good XP, and let's face it, this adventure is brilliant. I'm sure if you tell your party that you need black stones nearly everyone will pass to you.
thank you very much your help was nice.

Oxarhamar
09-04-2021, 08:17 AM
thank you very much. i however forgot to mention that the 70 stones i received were with me running 2 accounts to ransack. so if i was running just one account like most people it would take me it would take me 5 weeks aprox. however i feel that i received good advice from you all and i may have to bite a bullet and drop an lfm to fill the party. thank you again

Running ransack solo even with multiple chest open accounts is going about it the hard way group up for ease


I would post an lfm & put in the notes something like (please pass stones for upgrade)

How I originally got all my upgrades was that I use to run HH at least once each day as a daily XP quest it is quite good XP really even better with a group that can split the objectives

Good Luck

Weemadarthur
09-04-2021, 10:12 AM
The haunted halls are something I'll probbly see from the inside, like all that exclusive legendary stuff.
There are so many quests remade for epics now, but the opposite just never happens.

It never happens as there is hardly any Epic or Legendary exclusive content.

You do realize that there is more heroic only content before you leave the harbor than there is epic only content in the whole game? With the exception of 1 x-pack (MOTU) and 1 solitary quest (HH) every epic quest has a heroic counterpart.

I apologize if this sounds rude but your whole woe is me heroics get no support shtick that you keep trying to force into every single thread is starting to get tiresome. Heroics have plenty of content (almost a third of which is exclusively heroic) and gets more every single time new content is added. The only content that ever gets added without a heroic counterpart are raids which have only ever been released as end game content (which is what they are designed to be).

So please find something new to complain about that at least has some basis in fact, or better still try playing the whole game before you state your opinions on the parts you so obviously have no clue about.

erethizon
09-04-2021, 10:29 AM
Since this thread is here, does anyone know if upgrading Haunted Halls items with Black Stones causes the Mythic and Reaper bonuses to be stripped away or do they stay like when you upgrade a Sharn ring?

erethizon
09-04-2021, 10:38 AM
It never happens as there is hardly any Epic or Legendary exclusive content.

You do realize that there is more heroic only content before you leave the harbor than there is epic only content in the whole game? With the exception of 1 x-pack (MOTU) and 1 solitary quest (HH) every epic quest has a heroic counterpart.

I apologize if this sounds rude but your whole woe is me heroics get no support shtick that you keep trying to force into every single thread is starting to get tiresome. Heroics have plenty of content (almost a third of which is exclusively heroic) and gets more every single time new content is added. The only content that ever gets added without a heroic counterpart are raids which have only ever been released as end game content (which is what they are designed to be).

So please find something new to complain about that at least has some basis in fact, or better still try playing the whole game before you state your opinions on the parts you so obviously have no clue about.

Technically there are some other Epic only quests (e.g. A Study in Sable, Brothers of the Forge, Precious Cargo), but your point still stands.

As for the person you quoted, I get he likes heroics vastly more than epics but if he really wants to see all the quests I would just go ahead and enter epics at least once and run stuff on Casual. Casual is a fun difficulty and lets you explore whatever you want without feeling pressure to survive. Not to mention getting even a single epic past life can be a nice quality of life change. My 2nd through 4th past lives were fast healing and I absolutely loved it especially when I was still running elite. Having my health finally generate over time was great (though Reaper largely ruined that by putting the massive penalty on this healing).

Oxarhamar
09-04-2021, 10:43 AM
Technically there are some other Epic only quests (e.g. A Study in Sable, Brothers of the Forge, Precious Cargo), but your point still stands.

As for the person you quoted, I get he likes heroics vastly more than epics but if he really wants to see all the quests I would just go ahead and enter epics at least once and run stuff on Casual. Casual is a fun difficulty and lets you explore whatever you want without feeling pressure to survive. Not to mention getting even a single epic past life can be a nice quality of life change. My 2nd through 4th past lives were fast healing and I absolutely loved it especially when I was still running elite. Having my health finally generate over time was great (though Reaper largely ruined that by putting the massive penalty on this healing).

Yeah that’s another issue but I don’t think that Reaper shouldn’t render useless things like that

While it may not be very useful in the overall damage to have for example force damage ritual it was fun getting those extra little numbers coming up I miss them

erethizon
09-05-2021, 10:41 AM
Yeah that’s another issue but I don’t think that Reaper shouldn’t render useless things like that

While it may not be very useful in the overall damage to have for example force damage ritual it was fun getting those extra little numbers coming up I miss them

Given that Reaper is now the default difficulty setting for most groups, R1 really shouldn't have a healing penalty (or at most 10%) and it should just scale up from here. Let the addition of reapers be the step up from Elite to R1 and allow the healing penalty to set in as you get to higher Reaper levels.

Oxarhamar
09-05-2021, 10:52 AM
Given that Reaper is now the default difficulty setting for most groups, R1 really shouldn't have a healing penalty (or at most 10%) and it should just scale up from here. Let the addition of reapers be the step up from Elite to R1 and allow the healing penalty to set in as you get to higher Reaper levels.

I don’t disagree with that

Though I still think that fast healing for example should never be doing 0 heals because of difficulty level it renders it completely useless even in R10 it should not do 0 that just negates the entire thing which is bad design

Oliphant
09-05-2021, 10:58 AM
The haunted halls are something I'll probbly see from the inside, like all that exclusive legendary stuff.
There are so many quests remade for epics now, but the opposite just never happens.

I can only think of a handful of epic or legendary quests that lack heroic versions but feels like a 100 quests are heroic but not legendary. Maybe you just want to feel aggrieved. Reminds me of rich people complaining when poor people get relatively less poor while they don't get as more rich quite as fast.

Drogo33r
09-04-2022, 03:35 PM
I just completed the dungeon on Hard at level 31 - loved it but got no experience. Is that normal? I know it's level 28 and I'm 31 but thought I would get some XP.

balvix
09-04-2022, 03:49 PM
Post on your server forum that you WTB black stones
Post an LFM when you are live range 1-30 WTB black stones from Haunted Halls


The server forum is fine, but do not use the lfm for trading purposes, that is not what it's for. These posts annoy me and even though the game generally has low or limited lfms I don't want to see that space filled with a bunch of sales or buy pitches that I would then have to then sift through to find an actual lfm.

Oxarhamar
09-04-2022, 04:16 PM
I just completed the dungeon on Hard at level 31 - loved it but got no experience. Is that normal? I know it's level 28 and I'm 31 but thought I would get some XP.

Yes thats normal for a legendary in epic quest

Drogo33r
09-08-2022, 10:36 PM
Yes thats normal for a legendary in epic quest

thanks

eightspoons
09-09-2022, 07:25 AM
I just completed the dungeon on Hard at level 31 - loved it but got no experience. Is that normal? I know it's level 28 and I'm 31 but thought I would get some XP.

They went to the trouble of completely changing ToEE, likely because hardly anyone ever ran it. Seems to me it wouldn't be the worst idea ever to change Haunted Halls in to a legendary level quest because it's actually a decent one but hardly ever run for whole different reasons.

Krelar
09-10-2022, 09:50 AM
They went to the trouble of completely changing ToEE, likely because hardly anyone ever ran it. Seems to me it wouldn't be the worst idea ever to change Haunted Halls in to a legendary level quest because it's actually a decent one but hardly ever run for whole different reasons.

Even just a loot revamp would likely help. The gear was skipped when they rescaled things and is worse than Cannith crafted for most stats at the moment.