View Full Version : First life Rogue, now with CHAAAAAIIIINNZZZZ
Strimtom
08-17-2021, 09:45 AM
Hello and good morning. I am Strimtom, and today I bring you the new and improved Shadarkai. Shadarkai has been a silly jkoew for a long time given that it used to do almost nothing with it's cool chain attacks. Now, the Shadarkai remains a force to be reckoned with given that the new chain attack is both free and powerful. I decided to start over on a new character and begin anew, so why not start with a tried and true classic like the shadarkai. I have a history with chain builds, and if you'd like to see that check this video for that history. (https://youtu.be/JH2dE1ZcUmY)
Anyway, the build!
https://youtu.be/Ssqi9pkJe28
This was a dream to play as a first life character, doing amazing AOE damage while being single target. The chains revival was a success, and I think you'll be seeing quite a few SDK hanging around for a long time as it's now a major consideration for any rogue build.
ChAAAAIINNNZZZZ
Rogue 20
True Neutral Shadar-kai
Stats
. . . . . . . .32pt . . Level Up
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Strength. . . . .8. . . .4: DEX
Dexterity . . . 20. . . .8: DEX
Constitution. . 16. . . 12: DEX
Intelligence. . 14. . . 16: DEX
Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . 20: DEX
Charisma. . . . .6. . . 24: DEX
. . . . . . . . . . . . 28: DEX
Skills
. . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
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Disable . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Open Lo . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Search. . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Spot. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Bluff . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Balance . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Jump. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Hide. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Move Si . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
UMD . . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
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. . . . .40 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10
Feats
.1. . . . : Single Weapon Fighting
.3. . . . : Improved Feint
.6. . . . : Precision
.9. . . . : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
12. . . . : Improved Critical: Slashing
15. . . . : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
18. . . . : Offhand Versatility
21 Epic . : Improved Sneak Attack
24 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
26 Destiny: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting
27 Epic . : Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
29 Destiny: Dire Charge
30 Epic . : Epic Reflexes
30 Legend : Scion of: Ethereal Plane
10 Rogue. : Opportunist
13 Rogue. : Improved Evasion
16 Rogue. : Slippery Mind
19 Rogue. : Skill Mastery
Enhancements (Spent: 80 +0r +0u / Max: 80 +0r +0u AP)
Assassin (43 AP) Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back, Assassin's Trick, Nimbleness, Lethality, Deadly Shadow Poison Strikes: Heartseeker, Shiv I, Sneak Attack Training, Stealthy III
Sneak Attack Training, Damage Boost III
Sneak Attack Training, Dexterity
Killer III, Weakening Strikes, Sneak Attack Training, Dexterity
Assassinate, Measure the Foe III, Deadly Strikes, Knife Specialization, Light Armor Mastery III
Shadar-kai (20 AP) Shadar-kai Grit, Dexterity Keen Senses III
Forceful Chain, Ghostly Essence III, Guile
Ghastly Chain, Displacement, Improved Ghostly Essence I, Guile
Greater Spiked Chain Attack, Nothing Is Hidden III
Horizon Walker (14 AP) Mark Target, Improved Marking, Greater Marking Eye for Accuracy III, Planar Dodge II
Skilled Navigator III
No Step Missed III
Thief-Acrobat (3 AP) Staff Control Fast Movement
Leveling Guide
Assassin: Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back, Assassin's Trick Poison Strikes: Heartseeker, Shiv I, Sneak Attack Training, Stealthy III
Sneak Attack Training, Damage Boost II
Sneak Attack Training, Dexterity Shadar-kai: Shadar-kai Grit, Dexterity Keen Senses III
Forceful Chain, Ghostly Essence III, Guile
Ghastly Chain, Displacement, Improved Ghostly Essence I, Guile
Greater Spiked Chain Attack, Nothing Is Hidden III Horizon Walker: Mark Target, Improved Marking, Greater Marking Eye for Accuracy III, Planar Dodge II
Skilled Navigator III
No Step Missed III Thief-Acrobat: Staff Control Fast Movement15. Ass2 Damage Boost III; Ass0 Nimbleness; Ass4 Sneak Attack Training
16. Ass4 Weakening Strikes; Ass4 Killer I, II
17. Ass4 Killer III; Ass4 Dexterity; Ass5 Assassinate
18. Ass0 Lethality; Ass5 Measure the Foe I, II, III
19. Ass5 Knife Specialization; Ass5 Deadly Strikes
20. Ass5 Light Armor Mastery I; Ass0 Deadly Shadow; Ass5 Light Armor Mastery II, III
Destiny (24 AP) (Errors)
Shadowdancer Stealthy III, Technician III, Dexterity
Lithe I, Skill Mastery
Meld into Darkness III, Grim Precision III
(none)
Untouchable, Executioner's Strike I, Sealed Soul
Shadow Form, Dark Imbuement
Twists of Fate (19 fate points) Martial Hymn (Tier 4 Fatesinger)
Extra Action Boost (Tier 1 Dreadnought)
Legendary Tactics (Tier 1 Dreadnought)
Dance of Flowers (Tier 1 Flowers)
If you enjoyed the video, both original chainz and new chainz, I am selling some chainz shirts which you can find here (https://my-store-10369862.creator-spring.com/), should that be something you want.
Carpone
08-17-2021, 09:54 AM
A first life toon won't have access to those Epic Destiny feats.
Carpy
08-20-2021, 10:02 PM
Not sure if I'm missing something? Greater Marking doesn't seem to be on the class? It says Haste SLA instead?
unbongwah
08-21-2021, 08:12 PM
Aww yeahhh kukris - when was the last time we had a decent build excuse to use them? :cool: Not to mention SWF Assassin.
VinoeWhines
08-21-2021, 09:14 PM
A first life toon won't have access to those Epic Destiny feats.
I actually am a first life toon, and my twists are 4,3,1,1
and Have Mass Frog(which is going away as a Feat) and Dire Charge(again going away also).
I have a different setup for gear and Enhancements. As a First lifers though unpopular, I run R10's also. (That was by design so to show it can be done successfully) I do have another toon that's Shadar-kai that I will TR though to get Warlock past life feat and bump up other useful feats along the way.
Though I don't know if this guys Chainzz build is upper Reaper level viable, but it is interesting as I am glad they made the changes to not have Shadar-kai the joke of a build that it use to be, which was such a disservice and disgrace and the tipping point of when ddo started to show they don't really play the game in real time seriously.
VinoeWhines
08-21-2021, 09:15 PM
Aww yeahhh kukris - when was the last time we had a decent build excuse to use them? :cool: Not to mention SWF Assassin.
Legendary Midnight Greetings, will hopefully be a thing now.
Eltronin
09-27-2021, 12:24 PM
A first life toon won't have access to those Epic Destiny feats.
Yes they do. I have a first life character and am able to access them with no problem.
Relicor_Typhoidmary
10-09-2021, 05:10 PM
Hey boss, I don't have the new expansion so I'll wing those 14 points into something.
Thank you for your theory crafting and application.
Vletts
01-28-2022, 08:11 AM
What sort of change ups feat-wise would be beneficial if someone were to take this from SWF to TWF, dual daggers? No changes to the trees for Vistani or anything, just heroic/epic feats along the way. As I noticed there is TWF added in the epic levels? Is it just better to leave it off until then, or could someone benefit from it earlier?
unbongwah
01-28-2022, 12:40 PM
What sort of change ups feat-wise would be beneficial if someone were to take this from SWF to TWF, dual daggers?
It's a straight feat swap, however remember the whole point of this build (apart from novelty) is trading single-target DPS for better AoE damage from SDK chains. So the big incentive to SWF for this build is the higher base damage modifier (2x with full SWF + Offhand Versatility vs 1x for TWF). Basically you're going back to a typical TWF Assassin build but with heavy racial investment. APs are reaaally tight if you don't have extra racial APs: 41 Assassin (capstone) + 17 SDK (Greater Chain Attack) + 23 VKF (Double Daggers + Celerity) = 81 APs leaving no room for a Battle Trance (Know the Angles or No Step Missed) unless you drop VKF down to 11 APs or so.
As I noticed there is TWF added in the epic levels?
Perfect TWF (https://ddowiki.com/page/Perfect_Two_Weapon_Fighting) used to grant an universal +5% Doublestrike bonus; however that's no longer the case so you should take Epic Doublestrike instead.
paraLogic
03-06-2022, 06:30 PM
I've been using this recently, and I'm really happy with it, thanks! But I'm just wondering, I'm not that great with the Epic Destiny revamp and now that Twists of Fate are gone and we have access to 3 trees. Could you give any guidance on other trees to focus on besides Shadowdancer?
It seems like Shadow Form and Dark Imbuement are good goals, but where to branch out.
You've probably moved on from this, but any napkin Epic Destiny guidance you could give?
jskinner937
03-06-2022, 08:21 PM
I've been using this recently, and I'm really happy with it, thanks! But I'm just wondering, I'm not that great with the Epic Destiny revamp and now that Twists of Fate are gone and we have access to 3 trees. Could you give any guidance on other trees to focus on besides Shadowdancer?
It seems like Shadow Form and Dark Imbuement are good goals, but where to branch out.
You've probably moved on from this, but any napkin Epic Destiny guidance you could give?
Look at Carpones post on u53 assassin guide.
paraLogic
03-07-2022, 06:26 AM
Look at Carpones post on u53 assassin guide.
Thanks, I did. Guess I didn't state my goal or play-style, but Carpones is focused on Reaper 10 in full groups. TO quote the guide "Create the most optimal Assassin build at level 30 for raiding and reaper XP. This guide does not consider short-man, solo or heroic play."
This guide is for a first life Rogue, so I feel like it's a bit different and I'm just a solo guy with only a few past lives.
DrrIzzy
07-20-2022, 04:01 PM
What about self-healing during heroic/epic leveling and reaper/raid end game?
C-Dog
07-20-2022, 05:32 PM
(is 4 months but on-topic a necro?)
What about self-healing during heroic/epic leveling and reaper/raid end game?
Same any any pure rogue - nothing innate for low heroics, but full ranks in UMD means it'll get RD/Heal/Res scrolls soon enough.
DrrIzzy
07-21-2022, 02:31 AM
(is 4 months but on-topic a necro?)
Same any any pure rogue - nothing innate for low heroics, but full ranks in UMD means it'll get RD/Heal/Res scrolls soon enough.
So it's best to multiclass my SDK repeater rogue project with something else, just for healing purpose? Any split suggestion?
C-Dog
07-21-2022, 05:40 AM
So it's best to multiclass my SDK repeater rogue project with something else, just for healing purpose? Any split suggestion?
If you multi you'll miss out on the Rogue Mech capstone (https://ddowiki.com/page/Mechanic_enhancements#Hip_Flask), which is not the end of the world but is nice.
Assuming you're already Level 15, I'd think you could UMD Heal scrolls or at least any medium-cure wands, no? (Or... did you not take UMD??? :eek: )
A single level of something "divine" will get you no-UMD Cure Moderate Wands - but by Level 15, that's pretty weak healing, doubly so in Reaper.
Without seeing the build, if you're going there, I'd make the other level Barbarian, for the run speed. But Fighter, Wizard or Arti could also work, depending on what your priorities are. Rogue 19 too, for that extra Special Ability.
DrrIzzy
07-21-2022, 03:46 PM
If you multi you'll miss out on the Rogue Mech capstone (https://ddowiki.com/page/Mechanic_enhancements#Hip_Flask), which is not the end of the world but is nice.
Assuming you're already Level 15, I'd think you could UMD Heal scrolls or at least any medium-cure wands, no? (Or... did you not take UMD??? :eek: )
A single level of something "divine" will get you no-UMD Cure Moderate Wands - but by Level 15, that's pretty weak healing, doubly so in Reaper.
Without seeing the build, if you're going there, I'd make the other level Barbarian, for the run speed. But Fighter, Wizard or Arti could also work, depending on what your priorities are. Rogue 19 too, for that extra Special Ability.
Just sketching at the moment, can do any split. Thinking of rog/clr/art 11/5/4. Cleric for radiant servant and arti for battle engineer. I hate swapping repeater/great xbow in the middle of the fight. On pure bladeforged rogue, repairing is easy, but I struggle with fleshie SDK healing concept for my forthcoming ITR lives.
OdiumReigns
11-21-2022, 03:09 AM
Hi, I'm planning a shadar-kai iconic for my 8th life (tired of doing mid-level heroics tbh, want to do the sprint to 20 then jump to epics), but I would prefer TWF to SWF and I don't have Horizon Walker or racial AP. Is this build workable if I do the feat swaps for TWF and use Vistani Knife Fighter buffs instead of Horizon Walker?
I have some tomes buffing my stats so those aren't a huge concern, and I've got the following PLs: Drow Elf 1, Barb 1, Fighter 2 (once I TR, currently only 1), Paladin 1, Warlock 1, Ranger 1. I don't have much high-level or epic Rogue gear.
unbongwah
11-22-2022, 12:22 PM
Is this build workable if I do the feat swaps for TWF and use Vistani Knife Fighter buffs instead of Horizon Walker?
I'll just quote what I wrote earlier:
It's a straight feat swap, however remember the whole point of this build (apart from novelty) is trading single-target DPS for better AoE damage from SDK chains. So the big incentive to SWF for this build is the higher base damage modifier (2x with full SWF + Offhand Versatility vs 1x for TWF). Basically you're going back to a typical TWF Assassin build but with heavy racial investment. APs are reaaally tight if you don't have extra racial APs: 41 Assassin (capstone) + 17 SDK (Greater Chain Attack) + 23 VKF (Double Daggers + Celerity) = 81 APs leaving no room for a Battle Trance (Know the Angles or No Step Missed) unless you drop VKF down to 11 APs or so.
KnoX44
04-03-2023, 11:02 PM
Necro be dammed, Is this still viable? I never understood Anti-Necro posts, they just make sense. Same topic years later...
VinoeWhines
04-08-2023, 02:47 PM
Necro be dammed, Is this still viable? I never understood Anti-Necro posts, they just make sense. Same topic years later...
Some of those social message board standards are pretty immature and your question is legit, as it is still viable, with Crush Weakness swapped in.
VinoeWhines
04-08-2023, 02:58 PM
When this was posted Shadow Dancer was great, now it sucks and is half of what it was.
Half an epic destiny makes it viable but not enjoyable.
The caster part should just be moved to Magus of the Eclipse with force damage added in and bring back all the abilities they took away from Shadow Dancer.
What is Wand and Scroll Mastery? Really?
unbongwah
04-09-2023, 03:51 PM
Necro be dammed, Is this still viable?
Mechanically it should still work fine, although the OP hasn't been updated to reflect changes in the last two years, namely the Epic Destiny revamp, the level cap increase to 32, and the Imbue overhaul. The Offhand Versatility nerf only affects melee/caster combos, not pure melees which had an empty offhand.
Just a quick attempt to update it:
Character name: SDK SWF Assassin
Classes: 20 Rogue, 10 Epic, 2 Legendary
Race: Shadar-Kai· · · · · ·Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
· · ·Start Tome Final · · ·Incorp:· · ·0% · · ·Displacement:· ·25%
Str:· · ·8· · 0 · · 8 · · ·HP:· · · · 970 · · ·AC:· · 20
Dex:· · 20· · 0 · ·31 · · ·PRR: · · · ·25
Con:· · 14· · 0 · ·14 · · ·MRR: · · · · 0 · · ·+Healing Amp:· · 10
Int:· · 16· · 0 · ·18 · · ·Dodge: · ·9/25 · · ·-Healing Amp:· · 10
Wis:· · ·8· · 0 · · 8 · · ·Fort:· · · 25% · · ·Repair Amp:· · · 10
Cha:· · ·6· · 0 · · 6 · · ·SR:· · · · · 0 · · ·BAB: · · · · · · 20
DR:
Immunities: Energy Drain, Fear
Special Feats
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Divine Crusader
Draconic Incarnation
Exalted Angel
Fatesinger
Fury of the Wild
Grandmaster of Flowers
Horizon Walker Tree
Legendary Dreadnought
Magus of the Eclipse
Primal Avatar
Shadowdancer
Shiradi Champion
Unyielding Sentinel
Class and Feat Selection
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Level Class · · · · · ·Feats
1 · · Rogue(1)· · · · ·Standard: Single Weapon Fighting
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(4), Bluff(4), Disable Device(4), Hide(4), Listen(4), Move Silently(4), Open Lock(4), Search(4), Spot(4), Tumble(4), Use Magic Device(4)
2 · · Rogue(2)· · · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
3 · · Rogue(3)· · · · ·Standard: Precision
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
4 · · Rogue(4)· · · · ·Dexterity: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
5 · · Rogue(5)· · · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
6 · · Rogue(6)· · · · ·Standard: Improved Feint
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
7 · · Rogue(7)· · · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
8 · · Rogue(8)· · · · ·Dexterity: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
9 · · Rogue(9)· · · · ·Standard: Improved Single Weapon Fighting
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
10· · Rogue(10) · · · ·Rogue Special Ability: Opportunist
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
11· · Rogue(11) · · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
12· · Rogue(12) · · · ·Standard: Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Dexterity: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
13· · Rogue(13) · · · ·Rogue Special Ability: Improved Evasion
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
14· · Rogue(14) · · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
15· · Rogue(15) · · · ·Standard: Greater Single Weapon Fighting
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
16· · Rogue(16) · · · ·Rogue Special Ability: Crippling Strike
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Dexterity: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
17· · Rogue(17) · · · ·
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
18· · Rogue(18) · · · ·Standard: Offhand Versatility
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
19· · Rogue(19) · · · ·Rogue Special Ability: Defensive Roll
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
20· · Rogue(20) · · · ·Dexterity: +1 Level up
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Class Skills: Balance(1), Bluff(1), Disable Device(1), Hide(1), Listen(1), Move Silently(1), Open Lock(1), Search(1), Spot(1), Tumble(1), Use Magic Device(1)
21· · Epic(1) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Overwhelming Critical
22· · Epic(2) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting
23· · Epic(3) · · · · ·
24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Improved Sneak Attack
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Dexterity: +1 Level up
25· · Epic(5) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Doublestrike (OR Crush Weakness)
26· · Epic(6) · · · · ·
27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Epic Damage Reduction
28· · Epic(8) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Harbinger of Chaos
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Dexterity: +1 Level up
29· · Epic(9) · · · · ·
30· · Epic(10)· · · · ·Epic Feat: Empty Feat Slot
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Legendary: Scion of the Ethereal Plane
31· · Legendary(1)· · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Enhanced Elemental Dice
32· · Legendary(2)· · ·Dexterity: +1 Level up
Granted Feats
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Diehard
Evasion
Hide in Plain Sight
Improved Evasion
Magical Training
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Skills
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Skill Points· · ·44 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11
Skill Name· · · ·01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20· Total Buffed
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Balance · · · · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 47.0
Bluff · · · · · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 35.0
Concentration · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 16.0
Diplomacy · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 12.0
Disable Device· · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 41.0
Haggle· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 12.0
Heal· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 13.0
Hide· · · · · · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 53.0
Intimidate· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 12.0
Jump· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 13.0
Listen· · · · · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 37.0
Move Silently · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 53.0
Open Lock · · · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 47.0
Perform · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 12.0
Repair· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 18.0
Search· · · · · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 41.0
Spell Craft · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 18.0
Spot· · · · · · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 37.0
Swim· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 13.0
Tumble· · · · · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 47.0
Use Magic Device· 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 35.0
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Available Points· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0· 0 ·0
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Active Auto Controlled Stances
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Empty Offhand
Shadar-Kai
Cloth Armor
Centered
Chaotic
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Enhancements: 80 APs
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Shadar-Kai - Points spent: 18
Core1 Grit
Tier1 Vicious Chain
Core2 Ability I: Dexterity
Core3 Shadow Phase
Core4 Shadow Jaunt
Core5 Empowered Jaunt
Tier2 Guile I
Tier2 Forceful Chain
Tier3 Displacement
Tier3 Ghastly Chain
Tier3 Guile II
Tier4 Greater Spiked Chain Attack
Tier4 Assassin's Mark
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Assassin - Points spent: 41
Core1 Knife in the Darkness
Tier1 Venomed Blades - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Sneak Attack Training I
Tier1 Poison Strikes I: Heartseeker Poison
Tier2 Sneak Attack Training II
Tier2 Toxin Affinity - 3 Ranks
Core2 Dagger in the Back
Tier2 Action Boost: Power - 3 Ranks
Core3 Assassin's Trick
Tier3 Sneak Attack Training III
Core4 Nimbleness
Tier4 Execute
Tier4 Killer - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Weakening Strikes
Tier4 Sneak Attack Training IV
Core5 Lethality
Tier5 Assassinate
Tier5 Deadly Strikes
Tier5 Knife Specialization
Tier5 Light Armor Mastery - 3 Ranks
Tier5 Measure the Foe - 1 Ranks
Core6 Deadly Shadow
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Thief-Acrobat - Points spent: 8
Core1 Staff Control
Tier1 Fast Movement
Tier1 Sly Flourish - 2 Ranks
Tier2 Haste Boost - 3 Ranks
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Horizon Walker - Points spent: 13
Core1 Mark Target
Tier1 Planar Dodge - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Eye for Accuracy - 1 Ranks
Core2 Improved Marking
Tier2 Protection from Evil and Good - 3 Ranks
Core3 Greater Marking
Tier3 No Step Missed - 2 Ranks
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Epic Destinies: 40 APs + 12 permanent Destiny Points
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Legendary Dreadnought - Points spent: 35
Core1 Fearless
Tier1 Dread Mantle
Tier1 Dire Attack: Dire Charge
Tier1 Push Through The Line - 2 Ranks
Core2 Weaponmaster
Tier2 Combat Brute
Tier2 Ghost Touch
Tier2 Extra Action Boosts - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Life and Death - 3 Ranks
Core3 Thick Skinned
Tier3 Strike Twice - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Momentum Swing
Core4 Unparalleled Accuracy
Tier4 Carry On
Tier4 Lay Waste
Tier4 Strike with Fear
Tier4 Untouchable
Tier5 Overpower: Lacerator
Tier5 Legendary Rally: Legendary Rally (Melee)
Tier5 Dusk Surge
Tier5 Action Hero
Tier5 Sundering Swings
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Shadowdancer - Points spent: 19
Core1 Shadow Training
Tier1 Stealthy - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Assassinate - 1 Ranks
Tier2 Dance in the Dark - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Epic Strike: Shadowstrike (Melee)
Core2 Step Through Shadows
Tier3 Epic Strike Upgrade I: Dark Imbuement
Tier3 Shadowcaster: Shadowstriker
Core3 The Darkest Luck
Tier3 Grim Precision - 3 Ranks
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Unyielding Sentinel - Points spent: 6
Core1 Unyielding
Tier1 Divine Energy Resistance
Tier1 Brace for Impact - 2 Ranks
Tier2 Renewal
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Spell Like / Special Abilities
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Displacement· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·
Divine Energy Resistance· · · · · · · · · ·
Renewal · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·
Dimension Door· · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·
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Weapon Damage
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Melee Power:· 132.0
Doublestrike: 21%
Strikethrough: 20%
Mainhand damage ability multiplier: 1
Offhand damage ability multiplier: 0
Off-Hand attack Chance: 20%
Fortification Bypass: 25%
Dodge Bypass: 0%
Helpless Damage bonus: 50%
Ranged Power: 106.0
Doubleshot Chance: 13%
Sneak Attack Attack bonus: 4
Sneak Attack Damage: 35d6+0
I don't know what the Cool Kids are using for Assassins these days, but I've been enjoying Legendary Dreadnought on my Dark Hunter Tempest so I thought I'd try it here too: Dire Charge -> Improved Feint -> double Chain attacks. Imbue damage is modest - Venomed Blades with +7 Dice from enhancements, feats, and LD's Ghost Touch - but hey, it's better than nothing.
VinoeWhines
04-10-2023, 09:01 PM
I don't know what the Cool Kids are using for Assassins these days, but I've been enjoying Legendary Dreadnought on my Dark Hunter Tempest so I thought I'd try it here too: Dire Charge -> Improved Feint -> double Chain attacks. Imbue damage is modest - Venomed Blades with +7 Dice from enhancements, feats, and LD's Ghost Touch - but hey, it's better than nothing.
Unfortunately all the Cool Kids left the malls when the devs made Assassin parachute pants out of style.
Just a few of us here, as we mend the little garden, that is left of this playstyle.
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