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Sir_Noob
08-09-2021, 04:00 PM
Hi there, like a number of others who are looking for interesting twists with Shadar Kai and the Chain attacks I decided to try a build I have been using with Gnome.
Rogue / Wiz, Shadar Kai, Assassin, EK, Vistani.

There is a problem with attack speed when I have Vistani Knife Training I chosen as an AP.

When I use Eldritch Strike there is a perceptible 3 beats before the attacks happen.
It feels like it is happening on other attacks too, although not as long as ES.

It was bugging me as on my Gnome of a similar build, it just felt like she was so much faster in her attacks.

So I swapped out Vistani Knife Attack 1, voila, the attacks are like a hot knife through butter now.
The Eldritch Strike is immediate and all the other attacks flow quickly.

Could you have a look at this please?
I would really like to have that extra + 1 / +1 to attack / dmg

Tips, in the early going, Keen on a good weapon is very nice on the chain attacks, as well as the buffs from Vistani and Eldritch Knight.


Currently Female Shadar-Kai Jheri (Cannith)
5th level, Rogue 2, Wiz 3

-Feats Two Weapon Fighting
-Extend
-Quicken

AP so far: (Current points spent)

Shadar-Kai
-Shadar-Kai Grit

Assassin
-Knife in the Darkness
-Shiv

Vistani
-Knife Expertise
-Undead Hunter
-Mist Stalker 1
-Rapid Slash
-Vistani Knife Training II

Eldritch Knight
-Eldritch Strike
-Spellsword
-Improved Mage Armor (3)
-Toughness (1)
-Improved Shield(3)

Arch Mage
-Enchantment I: Hypnotism

Previous AP's chosen:

Shadar-Kai
-Shadar-Kai Grit

Assassin
-Knife in the Darkness
-Shiv

Vistani
-Knife Expertise
-Vistani Knife Training I
-Undead Hunter
-Mist Stalker 1
-Knife Juggler
-Vistani Knife Training II

Eldritch Knight
-Eldritch Strike
-Spellsword
-Improved Mage Armor (3)
-Toughness (1)
-Improved Shield(3)

Arch Mage
-Enchantment I: Hypnotism

If there is any more info you would like just ask, I will provide.

Thanks!

Also too, is this a good place to post these problems?