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Tilomere
04-04-2021, 12:41 AM
I'm writing bows off.
Alfhild
04-04-2021, 05:19 PM
Mark of the Hunted gives -25% Fort
PrinceOfAsphodel
04-10-2021, 08:41 AM
Hey Tilo, I have two questions.
1. Where did you get the 260 fortification number?
2. Do you need exactly the amount of fort bypass as your target has fortification?
You can still crit with less bypass, the mobs will just block some of them. I haven't heard other good players ever talk about hitting a specific number of fort bypass so I'm curious as to where your information comes from.
PrinceOfAsphodel
04-10-2021, 06:08 PM
Ok, that makes a lot of sense. I haven't played a serious dps build in a really long time. I'm currently designing one. I appreciate you saving me some research steps xD. Your conclusion about bow builds seems legit then, though I'm still holding out hope that Horizon Walker will be the game changer in the equation.
Ok so build to 180 or so
Since I’m doing hybrid,
And don’t care over r6
Looking to reroll my cleric to 15/5,
And go back to bow
You have a gear set?
Kielbasa
04-11-2021, 11:23 AM
ED then becomes Shiradi and is picked for you due to untwistable fort bypass, or FoTW for more dps at a loss of all purpose. Twist is Grim Precision, Haste Boost (buffed next patch), Sense Weakness, DoF, and Cocoon?
I tried haste boost on the test server during actual gameplay and it did not feel very impactful. I would love if someone ran the math on it when this goes live. Either something isn't working properly or the new animation was throwing me off.
This is for my new cleric 15/5
Generally easily farmable gear set
Fey and raid, because he’s a guild leader
Went heavy devotion cuz healz
The ARIZONA WALKER
30 gear
Archer
Spring or summer
7pc spring 3pc summer
Magmatic grasp gloves artifact spring summer
Speed30 ACC36 Deadly18 fire attunement
Blood of blossoms trinket spring
WIS21 IWIS10 shelter55 enhanced ki3
Lotus Mail lt armor spring
Fort214 healamp85 dodge21 reflex17
Vinelash bracers spring
Doubleshot13 ImpDEC QDEC4 Idodge10
Flower boots spring
Qdevotion53 healinglore31 eleresist45 nymphs healing
Black dragonscale belt spring
AP33 acidresist81 relentless fury black scale ferocity
Cloak of spring spring
DEX 21 IDEX10 parry10 electricabsorb50
Crown of fireflies summer
Devotion 214 heallore31 Iresist8 Imrr26
Amber pendat neck autumn
SF7 ISF4 Ishelter27
Ring1 of summer heat summer
Combustion214 radiance214 firelore31 radlore31
Ring2
Prowess? Or spinnerette
Band of insightful commands black and blue
Profane2 IACC13 Qdeadly4 intim22 yellow
Goggles
Collective sight con icon
Tsutti
04-12-2021, 06:26 PM
After that it doesn't really matter if you take ranged feats (dodge mobility shot on the run (being nerfed next patch)
(Blinding Speed also getting nerfed)
pls explain nerf, as far as I can tell there is no nerf
Could alternatively go 11 rogue 3 bard 6 ranger and get 10% oppurtunist bypass to replace DWS, with throwing dagger. Only 3 attacks instead of 4 with shuriken, but LGS Dust and better damage/crit profile will increase damage above shuriken.
Could also go pure ranger instead of 11/6/3 for dagger build. Less sneak attack damage, more passive ranged power, a lot more passive dmg vs favored enemies, more fort bypass when really needed with lvl 18 clicky. Also frees up action points a lot.
Carpone
04-16-2021, 03:37 PM
Imagine thinking you need to stack fort for reapers or Sharn mobs. This is with 110% fort bypass:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624532837974147082/817817157323980820/crittinginsharn.mp4
Tilomere
04-16-2021, 04:52 PM
Yes, imagine 110% is good enough, because even if you actually look at your own combat log vs. reapers:
https://i.postimg.cc/Dv3nvh9N/fort.png
Or Sharn constructs and mobs:
https://i.postimg.cc/m4dWpQDq/fort-sharn-constructs.png
all you can do is imagine, because you are failing to crit a large amount of the time to due not breaking fortification with 110% + up to 20% from Track in Shiradi (the proc rate of which also just went away this patch).
Thank you for the additional examples, but this is a reaper DPS build, and reaper dps builds don't flub two thirds of their crits. But you don't have to take my word for it or your own screen grabs above, take Cetus's:
Fortification Bypass: 36% Enhancement + 16% Insightful + 5% Shattered Device Filigree + 5% Guild Bonus + 15% Grim Precision + 10% Part of the Family = 87% (missing 1 point, maybe rounding? Character sheet states 88%)
Debuffs: 25% Sunder (DC 133) + 15% Shattering Strike + 50% Expose Weakness + 15% Fighter Improved Destruction + 25% Precision
Total 218% Fortification Bypass
I disagree with him on views on how the game should be balanced, but I'll be the first to admit the guy does know how to dps, and he doesn't stop at 110%, or even 200. He goes over 200.
IlmerSilverhilt
04-17-2021, 04:06 AM
Very intesting read, Tilo... I tried to wear Lionhart ring and twist Grim Precision. + Tab said 134% fort bypass and I slotted deconstructor in my debuff bow and I have bird attacks.
(Combat): You roll to confirm a critical on Carnage Reaper. You roll a 19 (+230): Critical Hit! Ill try this setup more and see what else I can get, Im sure theyll resist crits on low rolls.
Do spells have fort bypass?
Tilomere
05-03-2021, 11:40 AM
Do spells have fort bypass?
Spells, including physical damage spells, are not affected by fortification.
Tilomere
06-20-2021, 08:42 PM
But at least you get a decent PUG raid alt out of it. That is more than bows used to have.
As a PUG raid alt I don't need armor pen shots, since PUG raids are low difficulty and mobs have lower fortification. That eliminated falconry active buttons. Then because artifact is insightful accuracy/damage dumped trance which was more damage, but not enough to warrant a button on a low difficulty raid. Then because raids have only a few trash mobs at a time dropped Shiradi for FoTW since DWS has enough CC shots for a few mobs at a time, and since we don't need Shiradi armor pen since we aren't doing high reaper. This gets rid of pin/whistler buttons. Then dropped all boosts because we don't need the damage for difficulties we do. Now we have a really lean PUG raid alt:
https://i.postimg.cc/M6rP3Zkb/Screen-Shot-2021-06-20-181224-0.jpg
When waves of trash spawn every 6 seconds like devils or fire beetles, we can unload an adrenaline sniper shot every 6 seconds and hit unbridled fury. Swapped my bow real dps build to a simple gameplay shiradi missile spammer (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/524303-Return-of-the-Undead-Shiradi-Sorc?p=6432041#post6432041).
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