New Champions

[sleeksilver]

What's the skinny on the new Champions? Just Hardcore? What are their effects?

[MaeveTuohy]

What's the skinny on the new Champions? Just Hardcore? What are their effects?

Can you link to where you read there were going to be new champions?

I have heard nothing about this nor seen anything new in HCL or my home server.

[Sarkastik]

By all accounts I've heard there are definitely new champions in HCL (and only in HCL). Good info is very scant, however.

[Magrok]

I don't think anyone knows quite yet.

There was one thread a day or two ago, with an anecdotal death from a new champion with an unknown powerful ability.
And the wiki has been updated to claim that HC4 has all new Daelkyr-themed champions 'instead of' regular ones, but has no more information.

That's about it right now, though this thread isn't a bad idea to have around as people start to see more things and gather info.

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Based on the info from HC2, whatever's going on over there is going to stay on Hardcore server; I don't think any of the Arraetrikos champions were ever added to regular rotation (though it's impossible to say whether they happened to test a background mechanic later used in programming e.g. Scourge of the Snowpeaks, as that'd be invisible from player-side).

[Abilbo]

What's the skinny on the new Champions? Just Hardcore? What are their effects?

New Champions List:
Belashyrra's Watcher - blurry, bonus dodge, true sight, dodge bypass, incorporeal
Disciple of Avassh - causes bleeding on hit, improved reflexes, vulnerable to fire
Dyrrn's Corrupter - Byeshk DR, large bonus to hit, spells lower saves, deathblock, on hit evil
Servant of Orlaask - bonus MRR (dispelable), @ half health uses unbreakable (from LD), resist pierce
Silent One - deathblock, silence on hit, high spell resistance, magic guard (when attacked with spells, damages the attacker), high MRR (dispelable)
Spawn of Kyrzin - on death spawns oozes, made of slime (breaks weapons), poison on hit, legendary ooze debuff on hit
Stained - heals from chaos damage, curse on hit, on hit choas
Symbiont of Ysgithyrwyn - plague maggot dot, plague maggot dot guard, high fort saves, nearby monsters become champs on death
Valaara's Legs - deathblock, immune to knockdown, on hit pierce, extra fort, instakill fear if not removed

[Sarkastik]

New Champions List:
Belashyrra's Watcher - blurry, bonus dodge, true sight, dodge bypass, incorporeal
Disciple of Avassh - causes bleeding on hit, improved reflexes, vulnerable to fire
Dyrrn's Corrupter - Byeshk DR, large bonus to hit, spells lower saves, deathblock, on hit evil
Servant of Orlaask - bonus MRR (dispelable), @ half health uses unbreakable (from LD), resist pierce
Silent One - deathblock, silence on hit, high spell resistance, magic guard (when attacked with spells, damages the attacker), high MRR (dispelable)
Spawn of Kyrzin - on death spawns oozes, made of slime (breaks weapons), poison on hit, legendary ooze debuff on hit
Stained - heals from chaos damage, curse on hit, on hit choas
Symbiont of Ysgithyrwyn - plague maggot dot, plague maggot dot guard, high fort saves, nearby monsters become champs on death
Valaara's Legs - deathblock, immune to knockdown, on hit pierce, extra fort, instakill fear if not removed

This is fantastic, is this all from personal experience or are people collaborating somewhere to keep track of these?

[Abilbo]

This is fantastic, is this all from personal experience or is are people collaborating somewhere to keep track of these?

I have seen all of these, the effects were gathered with help from Guildies, Fallen of Cannith.

[Sarkastik]

I have seen all of these, the effects were gathered with help from Guildies, Fallen of Cannith.

Thanks for sharing!

I've started to add these to the wiki, no time at moment to finish up but I'll come back to it soon.

https://ddowiki.com/page/Monster_Champion/Hardcore#Season_4

I hope more people will contribute.

[sleeksilver]

New Champions List:
Belashyrra's Watcher - blurry, bonus dodge, true sight, dodge bypass, incorporeal
Disciple of Avassh - causes bleeding on hit, improved reflexes, vulnerable to fire
Dyrrn's Corrupter - Byeshk DR, large bonus to hit, spells lower saves, deathblock, on hit evil
Servant of Orlaask - bonus MRR (dispelable), @ half health uses unbreakable (from LD), resist pierce
Silent One - deathblock, silence on hit, high spell resistance, magic guard (when attacked with spells, damages the attacker), high MRR (dispelable)
Spawn of Kyrzin - on death spawns oozes, made of slime (breaks weapons), poison on hit, legendary ooze debuff on hit
Stained - heals from chaos damage, curse on hit, on hit choas
Symbiont of Ysgithyrwyn - plague maggot dot, plague maggot dot guard, high fort saves, nearby monsters become champs on death
Valaara's Legs - deathblock, immune to knockdown, on hit pierce, extra fort, instakill fear if not removed

Thank you for the info!

[Sarkastik]

Servant of Orlaask - bonus MRR (dispelable), @ half health uses unbreakable (from LD), resist pierce

Is that Unbreakable from the Unyielding Sentinel (https://ddowiki.com/page/Unyielding_Sentinel#Innate_abilities) ED?

[GramercyRiff]

Valaara's Legs is not an instakill in my experience. It deals massive bane damage. I survived this attack, but I was quite scared after it. In bear form the fear icon is way too small. Kinda bs, but I'm now obsessed with that tiny icon. What I don't know is if fear immunity actually makes you immune to this attack. DDO is very inconsistent with what does what.

[OnceAgainBros]

Valaara's Legs is not an instakill in my experience. It deals massive bane damage. I survived this attack, but I was quite scared after it. In bear form the fear icon is way too small. Kinda bs, but I'm now obsessed with that tiny icon. What I don't know is if fear immunity actually makes you immune to this attack. DDO is very inconsistent with what does what.

Can corroborate the "deals usually lethal damage but not technically an instakill" (I too have survived one) and also confirm that fear immunity does make you immune. So far i know for sure paladin and bard fear immunity (both Song of Heroism and the passive in Warxhanter) both work. Unsure about the rest.

[Sarkastik]

The OP's question was more wondering if these new champs applied across all servers. Since that's not the case, I've created a new thread in the Hardcore League forum, where I think the rest of this discussion really should be continued.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/523307-New-Champion-Info

[droid327]

Man I hope these arent one-off HC-only champs. These sound way more creatively designed and meaningful than existing Live champs, which pretty much all just require the same response as everything else: "dont care, kill it with fire". Really like seeing more advanced player mechanics like EDs and LGS debuffs appearing on mobs now too, they dont just get a 15 year old spellbook anymore.

If a special mob doesnt make you stop and change your gameplay (at least in some cases, if your build doesnt have inherent countermeasures) then its not actually special

I could, though, see where "nearby monsters become champs on death" could be either problematic in huge-swarm settings...or likewise exploited for farming champs, eg during events.

[JOTMON]

New Champions List:
Belashyrra's Watcher - blurry, bonus dodge, true sight, dodge bypass, incorporeal
Disciple of Avassh - causes bleeding on hit, improved reflexes, vulnerable to fire
Dyrrn's Corrupter - Byeshk DR, large bonus to hit, spells lower saves, deathblock, on hit evil
Servant of Orlaask - bonus MRR (dispelable), @ half health uses unbreakable (from LD), resist pierce
Silent One - deathblock, silence on hit, high spell resistance, magic guard (when attacked with spells, damages the attacker), high MRR (dispelable)
Spawn of Kyrzin - on death spawns oozes, made of slime (breaks weapons), poison on hit, legendary ooze debuff on hit
Stained - heals from chaos damage, curse on hit, on hit choas
Symbiont of Ysgithyrwyn - plague maggot dot, plague maggot dot guard, high fort saves, nearby monsters become champs on death
Valaara's Legs - deathblock, immune to knockdown, on hit pierce, extra fort, instakill fear if not removed


Getting to be too many new champs, going to get annoying keeping track of them...

Spawn of Kyrzin - on death spawns oozes, made of slime (breaks weapons), poison on hit, legendary ooze debuff on hit
~poison resist is all kinds of broken so they add a champ that does poison damage just to f[expletive] players.

Stop with the BS and *Fix the poison resist/absorption*

[Bakgan]

Would have been nice if SSG had been a little more forthcoming on what was new in HCL4. There is enough to worry about with all the lag right now.

[Targal]

Servant of Orlassk [Yellowish Orange]
"Champion: Extra Fortification"
"Orlassk's Stone Protection": This monster has skin of pure stone. (*Stoneskin visual effect)
"Wildmagic Magical Shield": This creature is surrounded by a magical shield granting it magical resistance. This effect can be removed by dispel magic or break enchantment.
"Champion: Supressed Rage": Upon dropping below half hitpoints, this creature becomes unstoppable for a short period of time.
"Champion: Absorb Pierce": Damage from a certain damage type is decreased.
"Champion: Damage Boost"


Silent One [Cyan]
"Contageous Silence": This creature's magic is tainted with absolute silence. It will remove your ability to caste spells.
"Deathblock"
"Wildmagic Magical Shield"
"Champion: Magic Guard Negative": When attacked with spells, I deal damage to the attacker. (*Negative damage is almost 1d6 per dungeon level? not very strong at low level)
"Wildmagic Spell Resistance": This creature has been granted spell resistance.
"Champion: Damage Boost"


Stained (St/ain/ed) [Violet Red / Rasberry / Violet Red]
"Champion: On-hit Chaos": My attacks deal extra damage.
"Champion: Heals from Chaos": I heal from Chaotic damage!
"Wildmagic Improved Will": This creature's will saves have been enhanced.
"Wildmagic Missile Deflection": This creature has a chance to deflect missles and some magical attacks.
"Stained Curse": This creature's strikes will deliever a curse!
"Champion: Damage Boost"


Belashyrra's Watcher [Blue]
"Champion: Dodge": You dodge some enemy attacks.
"Champion: 20% Blurred"
"Champion: True Sight"
"Champion: Dodge Bypass"
"Champion: Incorporeal"
"Champion: Damage Boost"


Dyrrn's Corrupted [Purple]
"Wildmagic Improved Aim": This creature is has been granted a large to hit bonus.
"Armor of Dyrrn II": This creature is warded by pure madness! It would take a material from another reality to break through.
"Dark Secrets": This creature's magic is tainted with dark whispers that will lower the saving throws of all those targeted by their spells.
"Deathblock"
"Champion: On-hit Evil"
"Champion: Damage Boost"


Vallara's Legs [Redish Orange]
"Champion: Extra Fortification"
"Champion: On-hit Pierce"
"Uncanny Balance": Grants immunity to most knockdown effects.
"Deathblock"
"Wildmagic Fear of Death": The fear of death is upon you! If you do not remove this fear, you will be stricken by madness so painful it may destroy you! (* once this champions hit you, 7s timer appears on your debuff bar. the champion's all hit including spells proc it, but it has internal cooltime to re-proc the debuff on you, almost 8s cooltime. 7s timer on all difficulty. Remove fear spell or pot to remove this debuff, or Hafling/Aasimar's Bold fear shake off will be good. Deathblock/Deathward seems not to work because It causes "[equal to your max HP] bane damage" to kill you instantly [it doesn't kill you always since the damage is your max HP - need to be confirmed]. Fear Immunity from GH or Paladin, Topaz aug is said to be effective, but not confirmed.)
"Champion: Damage Boost"


Disciple of Avassh [Green]
"Champion: On-hit Poison"
"Champion: Vulnerable to Fire": Damage from a certain damage type is increased.
"Wildmagic Improved Reflexes": This cerature's reflexes saves have been enhanced.
"Freedom of Movement": Protects against effects that inhibit movement, such as paralysis, slow, and web.
"Bloody Thorns": Twisted, natural magic causes all melee or ranged attacks done by this creature to cause their targets to bleed over time.
"Champion: Damage Boost"


Symbiont of Ysgithyrwyn [Crimson]
"Virulent Maggot Plague Strike": A single touch is enough to cause a horrifying disease of flesh-eating maggots. Keep back!
"Virulent Maggot Plague Guard": Strikes against me will spread the plague to you.
"Plaguebearer": When I die, I will explode into a horrifying plague that will spread to a nearby ally, causing them to become an infested Champion. (* a purple clound will appear on their corpse, harmless to players.)
"Wildmagic Vampirism": This creature heals when it hit enemies.
"Wildmagic Improved Fortitude": This creature's fort saves have been enhanced.
"Champion: Damage Boost"


Spawn of Kyrzin [Teal]
"Champion: On-hit Poison"
"Kyrzin's Slimy Touch": This monster is made of SLIMY OOZE!
"Slime Strike!": Attacks from this champion will melt your armor!
"Wildmagic Spell Resistance": This creature has been granted spell resistance.
"Ooze Split!": Watch out, when defeated, ooze will burst from the corpse to attack!
"Champion: Damage Boost"

https://i.imgur.com/4mtB3GK.png


Normal: No champion.
Hard-Elite: can appear Tier 3 champion. this difficulty doesn't restrict tier 1 (or tier 2) only.
Reaper: Tier 3 champion, off course.

[Sarkastik]

Targal, have you also confirmed that there's no buff variation based on quest difficulty level? E.g. all these champion buffs would be the same even running a quest on Hard?

[Targal]

Targal, have you also confirmed that there's no buff variation based on quest difficulty level? E.g. all these champion buffs would be the same even running a quest on Hard?

I talked with people in official DDO discord about it, and I found out that I've seen tier 3 champions only somehow when I was checking while people have seen variations. It seems tier variation note is not correct. I have fixed the information of the post from this moment.

[Fauxknight]

Can corroborate the "deals usually lethal damage but not technically an instakill" (I too have survived one) and also confirm that fear immunity does make you immune. So far i know for sure paladin and bard fear immunity (both Song of Heroism and the passive in Warxhanter) both work. Unsure about the rest.

I was not prepared for the hit since I was expecting an instakill countered by my deathblock, was not expecting huge damage hit. I survived and am not making that mistake again, some sort of fear Immunity will be up 100% now.

[Targal]

Casting or chugging a remove fear pot also gives you 10 minutes of Immunity to fear.

I was not prepared for the hit since I was expecting an instakill countered by my deathblock, was not expecting huge damage hit. I survived and am not making that mistake again, some sort of fear Immunity will be up 100% now.

They are not Immunity to fear, +4 save bonus to fear. Greater Heroism is Immunity to fear.

[Fauxknight]

They are not Immunity to fear, +4 save bonus to fear. Greater Heroism is Immunity to fear.

This is what I get for normally never using the dang things, fear doesn't usually kill you.


Fear immunity augment is ml8 so that's not too bad of a choice.