View Full Version : Vampire shroud, how to increase the vampiric healing?
NemesisAlien
03-06-2021, 11:47 PM
Currently I only see 30+ to 40+ healing when it process.
Also why vampire shroud does not have DR? Vampires all have DR if you dont have silver weapons.
droid327
03-07-2021, 12:22 PM
Currently I only see 30+ to 40+ healing when it process.
Also why vampire shroud does not have DR? Vampires all have DR if you dont have silver weapons.
Namp is the only way to scale it. Its generally considered not very good and negligible compared to your DA heals.
And because you're not actually a vampire, I guess?
Bjond
03-07-2021, 05:49 PM
Namp is the only way to scale it.
It scales on wizard level, too. Lich really is by far the most viable shroud, which is a shame. There should be compelling reasons to choose each of them, though Zombie does gain in T5.
Shroud
Core:2
Tier:5
Zombie
All-punt (DPS/DC loss)
Win for melee, others punt
Vamp
All-punt (heal < lich)
All-punt (proc rate too low)
Wraith
Mostly punt (C3 & R1 max = net gain)
Maybe with C3 & R1 max
Lich
All-win: HP, MRR, Heals
All-win: SP+5.3%
It's mostly Lich-only under T5 and then Zombie or Lich with a maybe for Wraith if you don't go past R1 and stack up the other Wraith cores. The R1 max sounds bad, but a lot of raiding is done R1 or less and if you're tanking, an extra 15% of pure mitigation might be more attractive than Zombie. Soon as you bump the skulls, your incorporeality gain is eroded and Zombie wins.
BTW, I've tried them all. It's pretty much Lich-only with slight exception as noted above, though I did use Wraith for a weird thrower build that salivates over every teeny tiny gain in DEX. Zombie core used to be good before the gains were all removed to T5 only.
NemesisAlien
03-10-2021, 07:38 AM
Namp is the only way to scale it. Its generally considered not very good and negligible compared to your DA heals.
And because you're not actually a vampire, I guess?
The point is the extra heal on top of DA.
ShifterThePirate
03-10-2021, 08:13 AM
More Wizard levels!
melee and unarmed attacks have a (10%) chance to heal you for 1d3 Negative Energy damage per Wizard Level.
droid327
03-10-2021, 09:41 AM
The point is the extra heal on top of DA.
Like Bjond just pointed out though, the extra heals from the (very occasional) Vamp procs are usually less than the extra heals from the bonus Namp in Lich boosting your Death Aura, since that scales on Neg power, can crit, etc.
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