Devs pls - shuriken build diversity

[Lanttanno]

I love shuriken builds as I'm sure many others do but one of the things that gets so frustrating is the lack of build diversity when compared to any other combat style. The problem is the crit profile, currently there are plenty of ways to get crit threat range as a competency bonus but few available ways to get the crit multiplier while taking monk levels limited to ninja capstone, or Kansai 3rd core. The result is very few viable build variants.

To enable build diversity without increasing the end game power of 20 monk shuriken builds, could the crit multiplier for shurikens only be moved from the capstone to 3rd core in ninja spy? Another idea would be to add a way to get shuriken as favoured weapon to open up some holy thrower variants.

Thank you.

[Discpsycho]

Another idea would be to add a way to get shuriken as favoured weapon to open up some holy thrower variants.


Note that Holy Sword (Paladin or War Domain Cleric 14) gives both multiplier and range regardless of favored weapon.

Using KOTC/Warpriest, either of these classes with 6 levels of Monk (10k stars) would roughly be on par with a pure Monk thrower, provided favored weapon was expanded to include shuriken
- 14 more Monk levels net you another 70% doubleshot (albeit with 50% uptime) and various other Monastic goodies
- Favored weapon gives +9 hit/damage for Paladins, +7 for Cleric/FvS. Both get some interesting AOE (Holy Retribution, Divine Vessel respectively)
- Cleric gets an additional +21 USP and a 200%-MP-scaling 10d6 on-hit effect following vorpals (i.e, always). Ameliorating Strike would heal melee allies and they'd have 7 spell levels to play with
- Paladin gets an additional (up to) 45 MP/RP from Ascendancy, access to Sacred Defense, and a few spells

Favored weapon recommendation /signed

[Bjond]

The problem with monk & shuriken isn't lack of build options, it's cloth armor MRR cap versus mobs that use no-save one-shotting DPS like polar ray and BDB. I punted all my cloth builds a fair bit ago purely due to low MRR issues; my thrower was the last holdout. Unfortunately, monk is entirely alone amongst every class in the way it's tied to cloth armor. Casters have a plethora of very strong gearing options outside of cloth. Monks are stuck.

[Mindos]

BDB.

? Blinding Death Beam?